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Author Topic: Online Engagement Rings  (Read 11625 times)
Brazilophile
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« on: February 16, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

A while ago I asked about jewelry purchases.  Thanks for the responses.  I do think that buying there would be a good idea if it was an option for me.  Unfortunately it isn't.

I have been looking at rings in stores and found them to be crap or way over priced.  The online places like Blue Nile have much better quality at lower prices than the brick-and-mortar stores.  The disadvantage is that you can't physically look at the ring until after you have bought it.  

Has anyone had experience with buying jewelry online?  How was it?  Would you recommend it to others?

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OkieMan
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Online Engagement Rings, posted by Brazilophile on Feb 16, 2005

Since several of you have responded to Brazilophile's post; I have a question from a little different prospective.  Most of you are talking about what I would call very expensive rings.  Now, I am obviously not saying they are Hollywood rich, but personally, I have no intention of spending $2-3000 on an engagement ring. I am not there yet, but when the time comes, I want to be prepared.  I say to each his own, but I am not willing to part with that amount of money for a ring. Call me cheap if you want to.  However, it is my understanding that there are very good bargains and very good quality jewelry in Colombia.  Also, it has already been suggested by more experienced guys that any of us  should shop in Colombia, because of those factors.  So, I don't want to appear el cheapo, but can anyone on this board tell me a good Colombian price for a more modestly priced engagement ring?  Mind you, I don't want junk, but I do want something more modest that the other posters are looking at.

                            OkieMan

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Brazilophile
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by OkieMan on Feb 16, 2005

Thanks for your responses.  My price range is $500-$1,000.  I want to spend more on the diamond than on the band so I am choosing a simple 14K yellow gold band with a contour setting.  The online price for that ranges from $150-$200.

I also wanted a high quality diamond; VVS2 clarity, E-G color, ideal round cut, and excellent polish and symmetry.  I was willing to compromise on the size so I am looking for the smallest diamond possible, .25 carats for example.  That quality diamond that size has prices ranging from $550-$750.  The problem I am experiencing is that there are very few small diamonds that are high quality.  Most of the smaller diamonds are in the .30-.50 weight range and at the quality I am looking for the prices jump to $1,000-$1,500.

I think I am going to buy something online and immediately have it appraised to make sure it is legit.  Most of the online places have 30-day return guarantees.  

In my price range, the brick and mortar stores, Kay, Zales, etc., only have junk.  Their rings are S1 or S2 clarity, G-K color, premium cut, and only good polish and symmetry.  In addition, many of their diamonds are not certified.  One thing to remember about buying diamonds is that there is a HUGE illegal market where diamonds stolen from mines in Sierra Leone for example are sold to finance the civil war there and other places.  Certification helps assure that the diamonds are from legal sources.

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doombug
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by Brazilophile on Feb 17, 2005

I focused on the same thing when me and my wife shopped for an engagement ring in Lima:  quality of diamond, over size.  We received a certificate from the vender, attesting to its color, clarity, weight, etc. In retrospect, though, the platinum band should have been just as important a concern.  I'd read a few months ago (long after having bought the ring) that any genuine platinum band should have engraved the purity of the metal.  Ours had no such etching.

I don't doubt that it was platinum, but I am a little concerned about whether we got taken on the purity aspect.

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Cali James
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by OkieMan on Feb 16, 2005


I would personally only buy the setting in Colombia unless you're thinking of an engagement ring with an emerald.  You can get good prices on emaralds in Colombia as everyone knows but you can get ripped of too.  You really need to know what a quality emerald is else someone is likely to take advantage of you.  I wouldn't buy a diamond there, you can get them cheaper here.  Where labor is an issue, as in making the setting, Colombia is less expensive.
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OkieMan
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Online Engagement Rings, posted by Cali James on Feb 17, 2005

CaliJames,
Thanks for the info.  Since you brought up the emerald thing, I have some more questions.  I know that Colombia has a big emerald mining business, so do many Colombians go for an emerald rather than a diamond, for their engagement rings?  Since I do not know very much about these types of things, concerning their traditions and customs, I felt I should ask.  Also, based on what you said, I really would not be saving money by buying an engagement ring in Colombia?  Is that right?  I just thought that since most other things are cheaper there, maybe the rings would be too.  How about if I was lucky enough to get a Colombian to help me buy the ring?  Last question, and this will probably depend on the lady in question, but; do most guys buy the ring and present it to the lady?  If so, then maybe part of the reason is that if they took the lady with them to pick it out, she might feel uncomfortable picking out the ring.  Or, she might go berserk and try to get him to buy something overly expensive?  I am way out of practice concerning this sort of thing.  Luckily, I am not facing these decisions now.  But, I probably will be in the near future.  So, I just want to be prepared.  Thanks again.

                    OkieMan

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Cali James
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by OkieMan on Feb 17, 2005

[This message has been edited by Cali James]

I believe emeralds are popular as wedding rings in Colombia.  It may be partially due to economics but who knows. I know a few gringos who bought their wives emerald engagement rings and the women were quite happy.  I also know a gringo who paid way too much for a poor quality emerald and got basicly ripped off by his so called Colombian friend. Be careful when it comes to Colombians helping you buy things.  Anyway, in general I think a diamond would be appreciated more than a emerald but every woman is a bit different.  

Labor is cheaper in Colombia so goods that are produced there are typically cheaper, clothes, housing, food, services etc.  When you buy something that has been imported into Colombia like electronic goods, automobiles, machinery you'll end up paying more for it than you would here.  

Diamonds are imported into Colombia so you'll most likely pay more there.  Emeralds on the other hand are mined in Colombia so you can find great prices there.  But in Colombia you have to be careful, there's a lot of people who will take advantage of you when it comes to emeralds so you should know something about them first or find a reputable jeweler.

I myself bought about a half carrot diamond of reasonably good quality.  There were some imperfections but they weren't visible to the eye.  I took it to Colombia and my wife and I went shopping together for the engagement and wedding bands.  I can't remeber exactly but I think I paid somewhere around three hundred dollars for our 3 bands (18 carrot white gold) but the diamond itself was about three times more expensive.  Just a bit of advice, if you buy a ring in the States, do not consider 14 carot gold with a Colombian, they will not like it!  A ring should be at least 18 carrot gold preferably white.  You can get some very nice bands even at a mall in Colombia for quite a good price.

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Brazilophile
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Online Engagement Rings, posted by Cali James on Feb 17, 2005

I think white versus yellow gold is individual preference.  My namorada prefers yellow gold.

The 14K versus 18K is an entirely different matter.  it concerns the properties of the metal itself.  Pure (24K) gold is soft and malleable.  You can dent it with your teeth or fingernails and even squish it between your fingers if you press hard enough.  Consequently, pure gold is useless for jewelry because it is not strong enough.  The more alloy is used the stronger and more durable the gold jewelry becomes.  

The online information says that the drawbacks of 18K gold is that it is easily scratched and damaged.  That means it is not good for jewelry that is to be worn daily and by active people, such as rings or bracelets with people who use their hands for a lot of things.  It is better for ear-rings and necklaces or pendants.  The advantage of 18K gold is that because it has fewer alloys it tarnishes less and more slowly, and is less likely to trigger allergic reactions by the wearer.  The converse is true for 14K gold.

The widespread preference in Colombia for 18K gold over 14K gold for rings is not based on knowledge or logic.  It is probably based on bragging rights or a incorrect idea about where the value of a gold and diamond ring lies (with the diamond).

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Cali James
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by Brazilophile on Feb 18, 2005

I didn't see 14K gold when we looked in Colombia. I've always heard negative comments by Colombians regarding it illogical or not, but your point is well taken.

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OkieMan
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Online Engagement Rings, posted by Cali James on Feb 17, 2005

Why white gold, and not yellow?  Do they have some sort of preference for that?  I will try to be accomdating, but I don't plan on spending a bundle just so she can show it off and make her family and friends think I am some rich gringo.  But, I do want something nice.  I guess this deal will require more research into it than I had originally thought.  Thanks for your help.

                              OkieMan

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Cali James
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by OkieMan on Feb 18, 2005

[This message has been edited by Cali James]

White may just be a preference but that seems to be what's preferred among my wife and her friends.  

I think most Colombian women would be happy to receive just about any ring if it was given with love and meaning.  But on the other hand, a fiancee shouldn't receive something less just because she's Colombian either.  The average price for an engagement ring is somewhere around $3000 here in the States.   Guys who end up spending several hundred dollars are likely at the very low end of the spending scale.

It's been said many a time but dating and later marrying a woman abroad is an expensive proposition.  It ain't likely to work for the guy who's just barely getting by.  I spent at least 10K a year while I was looking and then the year I got married it probably doubled.  I know guys who spent a lot more and some who spent less but it's not cheap for sure.

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utopiacowboy
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by OkieMan on Feb 16, 2005

While my wife and I were in San Andres, we agreed to get married so we went to a jewelry shop there and she chose an engagement ring. She chose a ring that was about $150 and asked me if it was too expensive. I chuckled and said no. She might have gotten a ring that day but I got the real jewel.
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OkieMan
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by utopiacowboy on Feb 16, 2005

Utopiacowboy,
 Now, your talking my language.  I don't want to be too cheap here, but let's face it.  None of this stuff is cheap!  I mean about trying to find and marry a latina.  You are already there, so I really appreciate your input.  So, if it's not too personal, can you tell me more about this ring?  Also, how long did you know her before you "popped the question"?  In your opinion, was your ring deal fairly common; I mean would that be something readily available at several places?  I am very curious to get the details on this type of stuff.  I am very rusty concerning these types of things.  I guess I have been out of circulaton too long! ha

                           OkieMan

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utopiacowboy
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by OkieMan on Feb 17, 2005

Well, it doesn't sound like much here but $150 is a lot of money there. It was a nice little gold ring with a couple of small stones. She was able to get us some 18K gold bands for our wedding rings that were about $200 apiece.

We started emailing in early April, 2003 and then using web cams in May, 2003 up until our first meeting in late June of that year. We had started talking about marriage even before we met in person but we both knew that it was "conditional". A lot was riding on that first meeting. Luckily enough, we were both ecstatic about each other from the first time we laid eyes on each other and it's been that way ever since. When we saw each other in the airport and kissed, we both knew that we wanted to get married. She was and is the most beautiful woman I ever saw. Hell, I would have married her that very day and never regretted it.

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OkieMan
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2005, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Online Engagement Rings, posted by utopiacowboy on Feb 17, 2005

Hey Utopiacowboy,
I really appreciate the info.  I still don't know if you would consider that a fairly typical deal you got or not; but so many of the other posters are talking about spending way more money than I care to spend.  I think that I am a romantic guy, but personally, I just don't see dropping a wad of cash to impress a latina who should be very appreciative of a ring like you are talking about.  I mean based on the posts several of you were doing recently about the average salaries in Colombia, the $150 is a good deal of money.  Forget all of this 1,2 or $3,000 stuff!  I can't see it, and frankly, I have other things that I need to spend my money on.  But, anyhow it seems like you and I are on a similar thought pattern.  Even though I am not facing the situation now, I just want to do my research on it now; and I don't like making false assumptions about something like this. I won't even bother saying how long it has been since I was shopping for rings, but believe me; it's been a long time!  Thanks again.

                               OkieMan

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