Newbie needs help!

[kented]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Newbie needs help!, posted by pablo on Jan 12, 2005

Since 100 men do E-mails for every one who travels to LA, this is not necessarrily the best way to go.  Women do get lots of E-mails and most of the men will never leave the US so thet don't take it too seriously.

[soltero]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Newbie needs help!, posted by pablo on Jan 12, 2005

I agree, there is no comparison with a face to face meeting, but I have had pretty good success with emails. Out of 10 I write to, usually 8 respond. Now out of the 8, 7 give me their cell phone/home number in the first reply, and we start talking from there. After that, I will go to meet them if they are interesting enough. I have just never been interested in the whole agency cattle call way of doing it. I can see the positives to it, but it just isn't my thing. I don't write for long, because I agree with you again, writing for a long time without meeting the person gives you too much leeway to fill in the blanks. Write, talk on the phone, narrow it down to the one you are really vibing with (and her two closest competitors as plan B and C), and get on the plane. Once you are there, you can always meet other people, just go to the mall or where ever. All I am saying is that the emails can work, but eventually, you do have to get off the fence and go.

[thunderbolt]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Newbie needs help!, posted by pablo on Jan 12, 2005

I agree first of all, that meeting a lady in person is worth a thousand e-mails; however, they are a relatively cheap and efficient way to meet ladies.  And writing in Spanish DOES make a difference, which should be logical.

Here is an excrept from an e-mail I got two days ago, actually:

ERES A UNA DE LAS POCAS PERSONAS Q' LE RESPONDO PUES ME DOY CUENTA Q' HABLAS Y ENTIENDES EL ESPAÑOL, ES BUENO PORQ' LA MAYORIA Q' ME ESCRIBEN NO HABLAN NI ENTIENDEN MUCHO EL ESPAÑOL, AUNQ'
ESO NO ES TAN IMPORTANTE PORQ' LOGRO ENTENDERME CON ELLOS... PUES HABLO Y ENTIENDO UN POCO EL INGLES

Even if a girl does know some English, it is still much easier for her to converse in Spanish, and improves your chances many-manyfold.

There are those who can't or don't want to learn Spanish for various reasons, and if that works for them - fine with me.  I would not say that my response rate was 99%, but it is quite quite high, much higer than I originally anticipated.  I guess everyone's experience is different.

[soltero]

... in response to knowing spanish DOES make a difference, posted by thunderbolt on Jan 12, 2005

I could show you many emails that were almost verbatim. As many emails as they are receiving, the ones in English are probably thrown right in the trash. What would you do if someone sent you an email in Chinese? For all the guys that say the emails are useless and aren't studying spanish every chance they get, I want to thank you also...None of this is directed at you, Pablo, it's just the emails are a great way to pass the time and get to know the people while you are stuck here, but they need to be in Spanish to show any real returns.

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Thanks, posted by soltero on Jan 12, 2005

You are absolutely right! My wife could not speak a word of English and if I had written her in English, I would not have gotten anywhere with her. And it doesn't matter how bad your Spanish is, start writing and you will be surprised how fast it improves. Plus, it's an incredible turn-on for a woman to think you are learning a language just so you can communicate with her.

[Seeker]

... in response to Thanks, posted by soltero on Jan 12, 2005

I have to agree with you Soltero. The e-mail campaign has to eventually turn into phone calls and then followed up with a trip. I don't think anyone is saying that e-mailing by itself will achieve anything, but it can be a critical piece of the puzzle.
I believe guys who write in Spanish and who can say they've been to the country before will be more successful with this method. I think it adds credibility when you write a woman from Medellin, and can tell her you were impressed with their metro, etc. I'll be calling one of these e-mail contacts from Medellin tomorrow for the first time and I'm really looking forward to it.  
Pablo, I recommend LatinEuro because I've used them before and my response rate was around 40%. My advice to Michael would be to only write the women from the 500 most recent profiles. I'm thinking that should make the entries no older than 6 months. The further back you go in the archives, the less successful you'll be.

[Kit]

... in response to Newbie needs help!, posted by tzion on Jan 12, 2005

Follow a simple plan:

1/ choose a country and the city. Focus on it.

2/ Learn Spanish/Portuguese until you are self-sufficient.

3/ Find 1-3 respectable agencies that have good selection in that place (see #1).

4/ Writing emails is a waste of time. Dont do it.

5/ Go to one of the agencies in #1, select the ladies, and go from there.

[kented]

... in response to Re: Newbie needs help!, posted by Kit on Jan 12, 2005

Well said.

[Onephd]

... in response to Newbie needs help!, posted by tzion on Jan 12, 2005

I would suggest, LAI in Bogota. You can follow my advice and get some letters on the way before you go there.

I would also suggest Odee Int, in Bogota if you  want and a desire a very professional lady from Colombia.  

As for Brazil.  I have heard that the LatinSocialnewwork is pretty good.  

LatinEuro is there but I seldom hear of anyone that has had a good experience with them in terms of finding a wife.  I used them before I visited Brazil.  The bad thing with them is you don't know where the lady lives until you've purchased the address.  Ideally you would want to line up a few ladies to meet in the same city.  If you like to travel and want to visit several cities on one trip, then going the Latineuro route could be a good thing.  you can get a brazil pass pretty cheap and fly all over brazil for a few hundred dollars after you arrive there.

I have heard that Latin BEst in Cali is a good place. I have never visted Cali but I was to go there, I would try them.

I have heard that ColombianSweethearts in medellin is also a good place.  I have not visited there either, so again this is just word of mouth from some friends of mine.

best of luck

[Avispa]

... in response to Newbie needs help!, posted by tzion on Jan 12, 2005

My recommendation is that letter writing is pretty much a waste of time. Save the money to make a trip.

[tzion]

... in response to Re: Newbie needs help!, posted by Avispa on Jan 12, 2005

Thanks to everyone for the input.  I'm not prepared to just sit on
the plane, land in eg. Bogotá... - and then what?  I'm not the
clubs/discos person--or at least don't want to meet the partying
kind of girl.  So I think it would be much more prudent to
establish a contact with a few I feel hold a lot of prospect and
THEN make the trip.

Incidentally, yes, i DO plan to come.  In fact, I'm going to be
quitting Europe for either Colombia or the Dominican Republic in
a few months' time.

Any more advice/experiences please?

[kented]

... in response to Re: Re: Newbie needs help!, posted by tzion on Jan 12, 2005

An agency is the alternative to clubs and discos as a way of meeting ladies.  I am divorced from a Colombiana I met via E-mail.  When I when to Cali I met about 10 ladies through an agency and my ex-wife / ex-pen pal.  

She had an inside track because I "knew" her but in reality all I really knew was that she was anxious to leave Colombia.

[Onephd]

... in response to Re: Newbie needs help!, posted by Avispa on Jan 12, 2005

Well I disagree somewhat.. I think letter writing is a good way to go as long as you have a trip planned.  That is decide when to go and begin your letters.  It helps build some level of understanding before you meet them.  
granted, nothing replaces the face the face but it does help to know if you are on the same page with the women.  

That is try to figure out the ladies opinion on family, work etc.. the things that you important to you.  You can sometimes cancel out some ladies that don't fit.

So again, nothing beats face to face, but dropping a letter or two some ladies that you are interested in before you get there, can be a good thing.  I would recommend a month or two before you get there.

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[Fuzzyone]

... in response to Re: Re: Newbie needs help!, posted by Onephd on Jan 12, 2005

I agree too... If you are getting ready for a trip it will help to get your foot
in the door.. if you are sitting on the fence forget it alot of these girls get men
that write them with the promise they are coming to Colombia and never show
up. My wife had in the year before I met her 2 or 3 men promise they were
coming to Colombia and come up with any number of excuses why they could
not come. That was good for me but not for them, I met the woman of my
dreams and they are still looking...