I was not bragging when I dropped my stats, and regret having given that impression.  I was simply hoping to help WG see that many of the kind of men she hopes to marry one day, when she gets good and ready, won't be interested in her.  MANY men will even think that at 30 SHE is the one who is TOO OLD.  (Won't that be a kick in the pants?  Wonder if she will still have those age blinders on at that time?)

As for AW, I do not hate AW.  But the "Experience" WG promotes, as I understood it, was the experience of being a tramp.  A great many young AW are embracing that particular experience.  They give themselves to men who couldn't care less for them.  Then, when they meet the man they "love", the man who cares about them, well, he gets the left-overs.  

Her husband gets not the innocent, trusting, eager-to-please girl she once was, but instead he gets the callous, hardened, suspicious, lady that she has become, as a result of her "experience".  A woman who "loves" her husband would not willingly do that to him.  Nor would she condemn the children she "loves" to be raised by such a mother.  Yet it happens all the time these days.  Divorce is rampant as a direct result.

I was not, in my earlier post, hating AW.  No.  I was earnestly hoping, though sincerely doubting, that WG might be able to see the truth.  That she might see it while still young enough to make decisions that will help her to build the happy family that she will one day wish she had spent these precious years building, as opposed to advocating living like a tramp.

Just my opinion, offered w/o intent to antagonize.

Jim

Well, that opinion seems one part 1800s mis-perception and one part 1990s rubbish.

Today's 20 somethings aren't really having that much fun, I know a lot, and if you've spent any time in youth counseling you would know first hand that today's average modern, Western, big-city girl is lonely, often-depressed, insecure about herself, unsure of her direction or future, scared of all the unkown out there in the world and often, just plain lost.  Having fun -- sure, lots of them like to think so, but just hear what they say when they step into a counselor's office -- then the tune changes -- a lot!

The rampant binge drinking and drug use is a clear symptom of how lost and unhappy today's youth has become.  Night after night of heaving drinking, drugs, mindless dancing to mindless, droning music until you "zone" and are literaly in a zombie-like state cannot measure up to the "fun" experienced by a healthy and self-confident individual.

On the other hand, I think all people in happy and healthy marriages would object loudly to the idea that "fun" ends with marriage.

I know that my 20ish fiancee and I are having lots of fun, and are going to keep right on having lots of fun right on up to the last breath we take.  We love to go out dancing, roller-blading, hiking and swimming, and a million other things too!  In fact, doing just about anything with the one you love, and who loves you back, is fun!

And it won't be by drinking or druging ourselves into a stupor, destroying our ears and brains with nauseating bullpuck so called "music" ( Macy Grey is, of course, wonderful ) that you hear in most of the 20ish clubs or talking and living like brain-dead vegetables on legs.  No, it won't be like that at all.

It's not about age, or age differences. It's about culture. Those who, like WG, do lip-service for the burned-out, dead end, cultures can only see marriage as an end of something. To those that exist in the wilder, more natural, less-tamed and burned out cultures of the world, marriage can still be a beginning -- a joyful beginning!

So, three cheers for FUN!  Married fun.  And to all the others like WG, too bad --- hope you find a life somewhere!

Paulv

 The most important is that both love each other and enjoy each company. And as a guy, should do all your best for the girl no!

 
Anna V