"Young Girls in Cali" final thoughts

[Pete E]

... in response to How young is too young?, posted by cancunhound on Jul 29, 2003

The "live at home" test doesn't work in Colombia.They all live at home.Unless she was married she is unliely to have lived any place other than with her parents,and even if married maybe not.Its totally different than here.It has its pluses and minuses.They are very attached to their family and will miss them greatly,like a kid going to summer camp.Because of the difficulty of life thier living at home makes sense for the woman and also the parents.Its very unlikely she could afford to do anything else.And she may be contributing to the family living there.In which case you wil be removing an asset if you marry her and will probably need to contribiute to make up for their financial loss.Not like the US at all.Not even close.

Pete

[david hagar]

... in response to Girls living at home, posted by Pete E on Jul 29, 2003

Another reason is that many of the Latin women live and home and probably a good one is that it is the custom of their culture and society dictate that the lady reside in the presence of her family, until she marries.  I, almost, married a lady, from Chinquinquara, who was very secure monetarily, but she resided with the family.  This was an upper, upper, class family.   Very wealth family and very proper.   Beattledog

[cancunhound]

... in response to Girls living at home, posted by Pete E on Jul 29, 2003

Good point and I definitely concur when referring to agency gals.  I don't agree that it is a rule etched in stone.  My wife had a good job and pulled down a good income when we first met - she lived away from home primarily to be in a location close to her work.  Many of her friends were in the same boat.  They'll leave home the minute they can afford to, just like in the states - problem is most can't afford to.  Of course, you probably won't find many of these gals in the agency membership.

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Girls living at home, posted by cancunhound on Jul 29, 2003

I presumed that living away from home was pretty rare from my experience with Cali,but might be more common with more professional girls perhaps somewhere like Bogota.
Your wife definetly sounds like the exception.

Pete

[Cali James]

... in response to How young is too young?, posted by cancunhound on Jul 29, 2003

You lost me with your "is she still living at home with her folks" test.  This is Latin America where it is culturally the norm for a woman not to leave her parents house until married.  I'd be more concerned if she lived alone to be honest.  It might mean there were big family problems....

Cali James

[cancunhound]

... in response to Re: How young is too young?, posted by Cali James on Jul 29, 2003

I guess my point here is that one should expect a certain level of immaturity - because I agree that living with the folks is the norm, but not necessarily the rule.  That's where AW may have a leg up (no pun intended).  Most will at least gain some level of independence in college or get out of the house ASAP.  My wife had her own place with roomates in Cali when I met her, with no family problems.  Bottom line - isn't a certain level of immaturity just one of the unique characteristics that make latinas so damn sexy!

[HeyNow]

... in response to Re: Re: How young is too young?, posted by cancunhound on Jul 29, 2003

Living with roomates?  I guess she wasn't living alone.  I would have to say girls living with their parents is definately "the RULE" in Latin America.  They just don't leave.  I disagree that they can't afford it.  I have met professional women that still live with the parents.   If a grown woman (or man) lives with her parents in the U.S. everyone will think she is an idiot.  The culture is totally different.

[cancunhound]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: How young is too young?, posted by HeyNow on Jul 30, 2003

sure, culture is different, "girls" tend to live with their parents until marriage or they reach what age?  I sure wouldn't suggest however that a red flag be raised should one stumble across an independent gal living by herself or with roomates, whether the roomates are male or female.  I guess latin gals never lose their parents (rarity in Colombia right?), accept a job in another city, or just move across town to avoid a 2 hour commute to work?  I could be way off base here and maybe no gals like this exist in the agencies - but I can't imagine that all agency gals fit into this universal latin culture "fairy tale".  Sometimes I wonder if we're all speaking about the same Colombia here.

[HeyNow]

... in response to Agreed but.., posted by cancunhound on Jul 30, 2003

No, once I met a girl in Bogota that had a totally different situation.  She was 31 years old attractive and spoke fluent English.  She was a buyer for a Colombian department store chain.  She flew to the U.S. often and said she lived alone in a Bogota apartment.  On the other hand I met a 38 year old optometrist that was still living with momma.  Until what age?  I don't think there is a limit.

[Jeff S]

... in response to "Young Girls in Cali" final th..., posted by Chris F on Jul 29, 2003

.. the part about spending time with her 24/7. I made a post a while back about the folly of thinking you've fallen in-love while holding hands with a beautiful woman for a few days on an exotic two week vacation. A facade can be only kepy up for so long and while some of these women are good at it, time has a tendency to erode it away and reveal the true person beneath. How many guys get engaged after a few days or a couple weeks? Too many, only to find they've bought a life of misery with a cast iron b!tch dressed in angel wings and halo. How many posts have we all seen when the writer asks, "How long does it take and how much does it cost..." Well, it takes as long as it takes and costs as much as it costs. In my own case I was in Asia three times and my fiance here twice over 2 1/2 years before we were both sure (she before I) and we probably spent 13 week total together. I never calcualated the costs but they were miniscule compared what it cost later, since she (and her daughter) spoke no English and had to rely on me for everything.

The lesson here is clear - take your time and get to really know her before diving in.

- Jeff S.

[Fuzzyone]

... in response to "Young Girls in Cali" final th..., posted by Chris F on Jul 29, 2003

I thought it was great to hear about any problems you ran into down
there and that you managed not to get caught like some of us in a bad
way...