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Pete E
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« on: June 29, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

Aaron took alot of heat below for suggesting Bruce's story might be made up.To most of us it seems so obvious that Bruce is very real.
I have always liked Aaron and think he is a sincere truthfull person.
It seems to me he might have taken it a little too personal when he stated some opinions that were not well recieved by alot of people,including Bruce.Actually guys jumped all over him knocking his opinions.And he defended them back.He is a bit of an idealist I think.Not a bad thing,you just have to weave it together with your experience.
It makes me wonder if him being a little miffed at Bruce might have caused his post.
So it makes me a little sad that Aaron seems miffed for having his ideas put down and guys are angry at him about his post.He is a good guy and I want him to hang around.
Also,Aaron told me in a private mail that Colman was offended by our
thread on Colombians and lying and quit posting here.I feel a little bad about that because I was one of the main posters telling stories of lies.I didn't mean to insult all Colombians or Colman.

Pete

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beenthere
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Aaron, posted by Pete E on Jun 29, 2003

Pete,
I definitely have to question your taste after reading your post.  You've always liked Aaron?Huh  This is a guy who surely has many issues, and is in for a rude awaking if he continues with his search for a latin wife.  I see nothing but hard times for him.  Phd's come a dime a dozen......not much money to be made, unless it's in the medical arena. They are usually arrogant, condescending people.  And when someone comes along who has more experience and a little more knowledge, they get very defensive, and can't seem to handle it.
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Pete E
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Aaron, posted by beenthere on Jul 1, 2003

To me Aaron did nothing that anyone would object to untill fairly recently.He got defensive,condesending and holier than thou when he reacted after posted some opinions that took some heat.
I think he is "in his head" to some extent,but I still like the guy.I guess I am going back to alot of earlier things he shared.
It does seem a little petty the way he picked on Bruce.So I understand alot of you guys being pissed at him.I think he is still the basically good guy that got caught up in negatively reacting.It seems like he was trying to get even for having been roasted by Bruce and others.Not what we should be doing here I think,particularly when someone has a big problem he is willing to tell us about.

Pete

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Edge
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Aaron, posted by Pete E on Jul 1, 2003

Pete - you may or may not get angry at me but your attempt to "spin" Aaron's behavior is, I am sorry, comical..lol

I know you like politics but be sure to stick to your day job.

I really think that Bruce's take on Aaron's behavior more accurately reflects the reality of his actions.

If Aaron had done nothing that anyone would object to until fairly recently, then why would someone like Bruce and others "roast" him.  From what I have seen from Bruce - he has a high tolerance for b.s. before he lets someone have it, so maybe Aaron deserved his "roasting". For you to say it does seem a little "petty the way he picked on Bruce".  What an understatement.  After all he attacked Bruce's integrity and suggested he was making this all up, which is no light matter.  After that bombed he went after him for sloppily "planning" his marriage.  

I would think that nothing less than a full blown apology to Bruce is in order from Aaron if he were any type of a gentleman.  But that of course requires humility, not one of Aaron's stronger qualities.  If you have wronged someone, there is a way back.

Take care Pete.

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Pete E
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Aaron, posted by Edge on Jul 1, 2003

Edge,
I agree with you about his behavior of late.Not only did he treat Bruce unfairly but he seems to have become a know it all,telling others how they should/should have done it.And his opinions have seemed simplistic,idealistic and juvenile,so they got him responses he did not like and now seems to be reacting.
Juvenile is a good word for the behavior I think.But before he got in to this spiral of negative stuff I thought him to be sincere,and a nice guy,if a little niave.I guess he has brought the nice guy in to question also.
Probably what really gets him nailed is he seems to think he is some sort of expert,or that his acedemic credentials means he knows something.He does know some things,he is not entirely,but to a large extent,of base.
Guess I hate to give up on the Aaron I thought I knew before he got in to this sorry little critical role.

Pete

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Edge
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Aaron, posted by Pete E on Jul 2, 2003

I had hoped you would be able to have some influence on him since you guys are friendly.  He is a very headstrong individual so anyone would have their hands full trying to influence him.  Sometimes friends cannot save friends from their own destructive behavior.  Like JunFan with houndog.  They spiral downhill and nothing seems to stop the self-destruction.

A man of maturity would probably recognize their error and also recognize the right way to proceed to rectify a wrong.  You can go back after starting down the wrong road if you are willing to humble yourself to do the right thing.

Thanks for the post Pete.

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Pete E
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Pete, posted by Edge on Jul 2, 2003

Yeah it surprised me he has gotten so negative.I didn't follow the whole thread where he stated some opinions that got dumped on and it went downhill from there.I guess he is offended or has gotten caught up in a I'm right your wrong thing.But he went from a nice guy to a pain in the butt.

Pete

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DOMINGUIN
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Aaron, posted by beenthere on Jul 1, 2003


For Been there:

Obviously you haven't "been there" or done a demanding Ph.D program.  Ph.D's do not come a dime a dozen.  I'tell you what, assuming you have an undergraduate degree, apply for a graduate program at a top American university, get accepted, and spend the next 5 years of your life, taking and passing 50 hours of upper level graduate work, writing a 250 page original thesis, reading, studying and taking notes for 5-6 hours a day for 10 months to prepare for 6 hours of oral examinations stretching over 2 days in which a panel of 5 examiners can ask you anything about your specialty.  And do all of it while you're working 30 hours a week.  I'll even let you choose the field.

That is how I spent my life between the ages of 23 and 28 You may think I'm arrogant or condescending, and no one has called me "Dr." in more then 11 years, it still is one of the proudest achievments of my life.

You know the saying...If you haven't walked in someone's shoes...

Dominguin

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beenthere
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Don't dis what you haven;' done., posted by DOMINGUIN on Jul 1, 2003

Domiguin,
First of all my name "beenthere" refers to my experiences in Colombia........that's what this board is about, isn't it??  Does it take a PhD to figure that out??  
Second, my brother and his wife are both PhD's........to earn a PhD is no harder than starting a business, working your way up the company ladder, or becoming a success in any field, it just takes committment; no great intelligence.  I've known many PhD's in my life, and the majority like to throw their "intelligence" in one's face.
As far as the price you've paid for your success, congratulations.............I would love to tell you the price I've paid over the years to become a successful businessman, starting a business from scratch 20 years ago, but I don't want this to become a pissing match on success stories.
Based on Aaron's posts, he has a long way to go to get his degree.
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DOMINGUIN
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Don't dis what you haven;' done., posted by beenthere on Jul 2, 2003


Been there:

When you make a statement that Ph.D's are a dime a dozen its a stereotype and a "put down" remark to the mena nd women who have made the commitment and demonstrated the perseverance to receive a Ph.D. in their chosen field.  

Obviously you're quite proud of being a self made businessman.  How would you react if someone wrote a post that successful entrepreneurs are a "dime a dozen."  

We can have a debate on the different kind of intelligences needed to complete a Ph.D program, to climb the company ladder and to build a successful business, so lets not debate it.  Lets just agree that perseverance is one of if not, the most important key to success in any field of legitimate achievement.

Sincerely,
Dominguin  

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beenthere
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Don't dis what you haven;' done., posted by DOMINGUIN on Jul 2, 2003

Dominguin,
Please accept my apology if I offended you or any others on the board with my comment.  It was out of line.
Thanks for your response.
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DOMINGUIN
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Don't dis what you haven;' d..., posted by beenthere on Jul 2, 2003


Been there

Thank you for showing class. It was graciou of you.

i have to admit I do have a little fun with my doctorate from time to time.  My business card has the Ph.D after my name, some people will ask about it and I look around quickly over my shoulder in a mysterious, secretive wanner and tell the people in a hushed voice that that I was employed by a secretive government agency in Washington for 10 years doing detailed analysis before I went into he private sector.  Now I am an insurance adjuster of large commercial property losses, but a few pewople ask me whether I was some kind of Jack Ryan Ph.D tyoe who worked for the CIA.  Of course that's the response I'm fishing for!    I start laughing and tell them that my Ph.D is in economic public policy and econometrics.  I worked at the OMB (Office of Management of the Budget for 10 years during the Reagan and Bush 41 administrations.

The secretive part of the OMB is: "If the American public only knew the complete truth about how the Feberal budget really gets put together"....Now, Pete don't get started!


Anyway, thanks again for the apology, lets move on.

Sincerely,
Dominguin

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Aaron
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't dis what you haven..., posted by DOMINGUIN on Jul 2, 2003

I'm a psychometrician. After the program, I plan to work (I have allot of options), and maybe work on another master's part time in mathematical statistics.

Take care,
Aaron

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lswote
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Dominguin, you're a bad brother....., posted by Aaron on Jul 3, 2003

I believe the psycho part.
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Pete E
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Dominguin, you're a bad brother....., posted by lswote on Jul 3, 2003

Bruce,
I thought that but wasn't going to say it.Sounds real practical whatever it is.

Pete

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