Points of contention

[Calipro]

1) Ninety five percent of the women that are in Modeling Agencies in Cali (that plan on having a modeling career) would be financially better off being a topless dancer in the U.S. And, I'm talking 15 to 25 times better off. You will have to ask Iswrote about the moral and psycological costs associated with stripping in public because I don't know what they are. But, I'll bet the average Caleña in the work force has more sexual advances made towards her in a day than the average stripper in the U.S.

2) Almost all Colombian women in general would be better off living in the U.S. There are way more educational and employment oportunities for women here than in Colombia, period. Empower a young women and bring her to america.

3) The younger and more beautiful a Colombiana is the more she will benifit from living in the U.S. Colombianas are some of the most beautiful and personable women I have ever met in my life and it is relativly easy to get them modeling and promotion jobs if you live in an area with a large hispanic population (even if they don't speak perfect english). Quit worrying about your own self interests (is the relationship going to last a life time). If the two of you enjoy each others company and have a good time together. Change the world one person at a time. Marry a very young hot model type from Cali if you can.

4) It is ironic some modeling agencies think that they have to protect their models from american men (horn-doggers as they're called) when american guys are the one's that could help them out the most.

5) Most of the guys that go to Cali are looking for a beautiful, sexy, exotic women. Otherwise why go? There are plenty and I mean plenty of over weight unattactive women in the U.S. that would make very loyal and loving wives. Be a man and admitt the reason you go down there is because you want something better. Sure you guys kid yourselves into thinking that american women are no good. Thats bull there are a tons of women here that would make fantastic wives but they're ugly. Come on admitt it at least to yourself.

[Pete E]

... in response to Points of contention, posted by Calipro on Jun 12, 2003

I immagine those model type Calenas could do even better her if they were high class call girls.They could be $500+ items.But that might be about as acceptable as being a topless dancer to them.Not high class jobs either one.
Yes,I will admit we head south for a better looking woman.I had several good ladies here that would have loved to have had me and would have been good wives.But yes,not attractive.So I headed south for a better looking wife that is alot more troublesome.Thats not always true.I know guys with excellent Colombiana wives,maybe just a shade below model but good girls.
Going for the hottie has its benefits and downfalls.Do these model types want kids?It  seemed to me every Colombiana had or wanted kids.These girls might be exceptions.
If you could bring several at the same time you could set up your own topless bar.Hm,maybe you could recruit some other locals to help for a piece of the a-- uh action.

Pete

[Pete E]

... in response to Points of contention, posted by Calipro on Jun 12, 2003

I immagine those model type Calenas could do even better her if they were high class call girls.They could be $500+ items.But that might be about as acceptable as being a topless dancer to them.Not high class jobs either one.
Yes,I will admit we head south for a better looking woman.I had several good ladies here that would have loved to have had me and would have been good wives.But yes,not attractive.So I headed south for a better looking wife that is alot more troublesome.Thats not always true.I know guys with excellent Colombiana wives,maybe just a shade below model but good girls.
Going for the hottie has its benefits and downfalls.Do these model types want kids?It  seemed to me every Colombiana had or wanted kids.These girls might be exceptions.
If you could bring several at the same time you could set up your own topless bar.Hm,maybe you could recruit some other locals to help for a piece of the a-- uh action.

Pete

[beenthere]

... in response to Points of contention, posted by Calipro on Jun 12, 2003

Now we know CaliPro's true motives..........marry a model type, bring her to the U.S., and have her start stripping.
I have no problem with this, if CaliPro is up front with everyone regarding his intentions, and also if he is upfront with the women also. More power to him if he can swing it. Hasn't had much of success rate so far (long term, that is) but maybe on this trip he'll meet that "special one".

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Points of contention, posted by beenthere on Jun 13, 2003

Those are not my motives. I never said that I wanted to bring a women here so she could become a stripper. I simply stated that I thought it was a better alternative for a girl than trying to make a career of modeling in Cali.

Also, for the record my caleña wife never stripped but she did work at Hooters for a time. It was my first american wife that was a stripper and I met her at a strip club. I did turn her into a stripper. I just said I'm OK with it.

Maybe this trip to Cali I will find the special one (the life-long one) they're all special. Trust me.

[Ralph]

... in response to Points of contention, posted by Calipro on Jun 12, 2003

Not everything is black and white. There are many levels between hot model type and fat and ugly. Everybody has different tastes. I was on a photo shoot last week for a magazine ad. The model was VERY hot. Well at least to all but myself and my buddy.

I checked out the pix of you ex. I am sure tons of guys would go nuts over her. Not me. Fake boobs is one of the biggest turn  offs there are. I'm not crazy about plastic surgery either. I'll take a girl with natural beauty any day.

I have dated models and strippers in the past. Many models are obsessed with their looks. They many times have a superiority complex, which also turns me off.

I am sure that if many ladies in Latin America got nose jobs, fake boobs, and went to get photos taken by a professional photographer they would be just as, if not more attractive than your ex.

Are you saying the only "good wives" in the states are ugly? That is a silly statement.

In your posts you seem to dwell on how hot the women you have married or dated were, and you also dwell on what you have bought or given them.

Think about it, did you buy a nose job and new boobs for her           ? Or for you?

If you are happy in those relationships, that is fine. People are different though and many men would not be as happy.

[Calipro]

... in response to what?, posted by Ralph on Jun 13, 2003

Both tne nose job and the boob job where her idea. I was OK with the nose job. She had broken her nose jumping into the river when she was a kid and she had some problems with her sinuses. They actually did two surgeries at the same time and my health insurance paid about half of it.

I have to admit that I am not crazy about fake boobs either. The reason I bought them is because she really wanted them. There was really no stopping her. If I hadn't bought them I'm sure she would have saved her money up and bought them anyway.

I think my ex-wife was pretty happy with her looks and she is a very friendly type person. But, after her boob job , her self confidence went through the roof. I think she thought is was unstoppable and she was because she a personality to match.(very fun to be around)

[Mark33]

... in response to what?, posted by Ralph on Jun 13, 2003

Wait, is that not wife # 2 who is married to a plastic surgeon? Well, can't say Calipro did not help improve her life:)