There has been a deep discussion about the Colombian cliche..."no da la papaya." In my opinion, it makes allot of sense, but can be applied in many favorable and not so favorable contexts to justify acceptable and not so acceptable behavior.

Let's be honest here, because I believe some guys are pinning it all on the Colombians, and their "Indian culture" (as Jim C. put it in the past), which is a stupid statement to make. However, looking beyond that, let us be honest here, and openly admit that allot of guys in their search for Latina partners in the agencies have followed the "no da la papaya" rule to justify their search, engagement, and marriage, as well as how they went about the process.  

The "papaya rule" is a cultural cliche. That's it. Nothing else. All cliches can be used to justify acceptable and not so acceptable behavior depending on who uses them, and when they are used. Some will have the tendency to use it in a positive way, others will use it to justify negative behavior. For example, I had heard of a gringo going to spend two weeks with a woman who lived in Barrio AguaBlanca de Cali. When I heard that...I myself immediately said "AHI YIKES, NO DA LA PAPAYA!!!!!!!!!" When I said that, I immediately realized that I'm too Colombian. In another situation, if I were to meet a knock out of a woman in terms of intelligence, looks, career, and personality, then "NO DA LA PAPAYA...I better keep her and forget the others!!!!!!!!" Or, a guy with a different value system looking to meet tricks and hoes, might just say "NO DA LA PAPAYA, I'm keeping her number just in case of a dry season!!!!!!"

But, besides all that, with regards to marriage. I think it is best to get to know the person during a decent period of courtship just to learn how infact the woman will use the papaya rule in any given situation. Let's not make generalizations here about people based on various applications of a cultural cliche. I think the real issue is about the intentions of the individual person we get involved with in the first place.

Aaron

My 2500.000 pesos.

Aaron

Also, don't be naive to think that people in USA board rooms, executives, ceos, parents, children, presidents, husband and wives, and other blue and white collar Americans don't lie as much. We lie too, but how we do it in some arenas makes it considered an acceptable practice. And if it isn't considered acceptable, the stiff penalities applied when caught red-handed are often times enough to scare potentially devious people from being corrupt even when they are tempted. Dishonesty is everywhere. If you think deceitfulness is more so engrained in Latin America rather than here in the USA, then why in the world have you considered a Latina for a wife?

Aaron

I don't know, maybe my Colombian wife is an exception, but she has only lied to me once the whole time I have known her and that was when she said we were out of cheese when we weren't because she thought is was a good way to keep me from taking a late night snack.  I informed her I never want games played like that and I always want the truth even in instances like that.  But I certainly wouldn't characterise her in anyway as a liar and I have had many opportunities to see if what she she said was the truth and it always was.

That aside, I think this argument between Yalg and Aaron over lust and sex seems to miss the big picture.  You better have some lust and sex with your woman or you'll either lose interest in her at sometime in the future or you won't realize the full potential of your relationship.  But sex and lust don't operate in a vacuum.  You can lust after a woman and want to have sex with her all the time, and it can be a wonderful thing if you understand the object of your lust is also a person whom you want to pursue with the same passion you want to get into her pants with.  Sex isn't a dirty thing and if you think it is, you do yourself and your woman a dis-service.

Aaron