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Author Topic: "Good Deeds"---FARC style  (Read 45327 times)
pack
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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: defining the drug proble..., posted by BenKramer on Dec 22, 2001

WELL NOW... what are we talking here...are we talking pot? or are we talking crack,heroin, and other junkie stuffs? are you saying legalize pot? or legalize all drugs?
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BenKramer
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« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: defining the drug pr..., posted by pack on Dec 22, 2001

Pack, I was just using pot as an example, cause its more widely used. Whether or not a substance is illegal it does NOT stop someone from using it or aquiring it. Plain and simple, people dont check the law before they decide to start snorting cocaine.

I am sure that crack, heroin and cocaine is harder to get in the smaller cities and towns that it is in the big cities.

Another point that I would like to make is that some the drugs the Pysch Dr hand out is no better or worse than crack cocaine. Reguards, Ben
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pack
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« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: defining the dru..., posted by BenKramer on Dec 23, 2001

drugs = illegal + harm to youth + harm to society. the line must be drawn somewhere, that somewhere is drugs, if you grow/produce drugs,traffic drugs,push drugs,use drugs...you are braking the law..period! all the other talk is just that..talk.
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BenKramer
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« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: defining the..., posted by pack on Dec 23, 2001

Right Pack, the laws didnt work during Prohibition and they dont work now. Thats the point I am trying to make. The law difinitely creates a black market so kids can get drugs whether thy are breaking the law or not!!! Gee, I wonder which one of us will have the last word on this argument Huh
                                         Reguards, Ben
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pack
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« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: defining..., posted by BenKramer on Dec 23, 2001

well if that is your whole argument then i'll go back to what i said way back at the beginning...there has to be some point , some place where the line is drawn...and society will decide where and when that line will be drawn and right now the line is drawn at NO DRUGS. do we draw the line at pot is ok but no crack allowed, or do we allow pot and crack but no meth is allowed? or do we just throw out all laws and rules and say anything and everything goes ...smoke ,snort, inject whatever you want ..open it all up..sell it all in stores...we could have all kinds of goodies...how about a " smack pack ", you could buy premixed or make your own., and at christmas time you could give it as gifts? just think of the market out there Bong stores popping up all over, kids could stop in and get a hit on the way to school.  i think its ok just the way it is now...its against the law.
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pack
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« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Kill, Kill, Kill    violence the solutio..., posted by WarPig on Dec 21, 2001

they are the ones doing the kill kill kill...so your answer is legalize cocaine huh?
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WarPig
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« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Kill, Kill, Kill    violence the sol..., posted by pack on Dec 21, 2001

or is it better to continue the charade of the drug war???  is death and/or imprisonment your solution??

so Colombians are killing Colombians, now you want the US to start killing Colombians??
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pack
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« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to yepif alcohol and cigarrettes can be leg..., posted by WarPig on Dec 21, 2001

why are you putting words in my mouth? i dont recall making any of those statements?  why dont you go have another puff puff puff!
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pack
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« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to DRUG....., posted by Hoda on Dec 21, 2001

its long over due! lets hear it for the daisy cutter!
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Hoda
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« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: DRUG....., posted by pack on Dec 21, 2001

If we drop a few of those (daisy cutters) around the drug fields. FARC, ELN & the AUC, would be pulling the drug plants out by hand, begging for us to stop bombing them...LOL! The Taliban thought the mountains would protect them against the bombings....NOT!!! Me thinks, the jungle would be a tad bit more vunerable...heheh

LOL....Hoda
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pack
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« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Excellent choice, Pack...., posted by Hoda on Dec 21, 2001

yup a few daisys , couple b-1s, support for colombian army ,end of story! meanwhile crackdown on american pushers,kill two birds at same time.
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Hoda
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« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: DRUG....., posted by pack on Dec 21, 2001

If we drop a few of those (daisy cutters) around the drug fields. FARC, ELN & the AUC, would be pulling the drug plants out by hand, begging for us to stop bombing them...LOL! The Taliban thought the mountains would protect them against the bombings....NOT!!! Me thinks, the jungle would be a tad bit more vunerable...heheh

LOL....Hoda
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pack
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« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to "Good Deeds"---FARC style, posted by El Diablo on Dec 20, 2001

i dont think colombia is next on the list...but they are on the list .
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Cali vet
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to "Good Deeds"---FARC style, posted by El Diablo on Dec 20, 2001

Well that is true. We (the US) will not be intervening militarily in Colombia. Not unless the FARC/ELN/AUC directly threaten terrorist acts on our shores and none of those groups have any interest whatsoever in doing that. The beef of the two guerilla groups is with the Colombian govt. The FARC seem to want to be a controlling factor in that govt. but are reluctant to make any serious agreements because they are making money hand over fist with their drug and kidnap industries. The ELN are much smaller, don't have the big coca tax money behind them and are somewhat more radical than the FARC because they have less to gain or lose. The AUC and Carlos Castrano are at all out war with both guerilla factions and their modis operendi is sheer terror and intimidation produced by the ghastliest slaughter, chainsaws etc. of country people who "might" provide aide and succor to the guerilla. The AUC also fight the guerillas for coca income.
All this makes for a disastrous and seemingly insoluble situation but not one that directly threatens the US. Any US Special Forces strikes would be untenable. We all know that probobley half the population there has relatives in the US. It would be like sending US strike forces to Isreal. The US also has a huge phobia regarding junlge battlegrounds.
Anyway Andres Pastrana has been a huge failure in dealing with the guerillas. Colombians can hope for a president with a strong hand in the next election, someone like Fujimori of Peru who effectively crushed the Sendero Luminoso. That is if they don't mind him sticking his hand in the cookie jar which brings us back to why groups like the ELN exist.  
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El Diablo
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« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re:, posted by Cali vet on Dec 20, 2001

n/t
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