I joined Asiafriendfinder.com recently.  I wrote to a few dozen women in various Asian countries with little success.  Then I received a few emails from Chinese women who viewed my profile.

I was particularly captivated by a 40 year old accountant in Chongquin, who seduced me with her words and maturity.  

Our relationship got more heated, and we even broached the subject of a visit by me to China to meet her.  I was about to get her telephone number when she suddenly stopped writing to me.  A week passed and she did not respond to any of my emails.  Of course, I did not know if there was a technical reason or other reason for her failure to respond, but I went back into her profile in asiafriendfinder.com to see if I could glean any information about her that would help me solve this mystery.

Lo and behold the profile had been changed...updated.  It had what appeared to be the same woman, albeit ten years older and indeed the profile now said she was 50.  The description of her was remarkably similar albeit with some different words but many key adjectives and adjective strings were the same.  The profession, education, etc. were the same but now she had children where before she was childless.

I am beginning to think I am a fool for wasting so much time seeking woman online.  Also, my initial instincts were to avoid Chinese because I have had many dealings with them in the past (and I have traveled through China) and found them to be in general dishonest and without sincerety and this experience only supports my initial judgment.

Hamlet

Not only Filipinas, but you could easily say the same things about Americans as well; moreso, perhaps.

For the rest of you, I have found in my dealings with the Chinese, both in Taiwan and the mainland, in HK (communist Chinese government political personnel excepted), that the Chinese were hard businessmen and women, tough but honest. Sure, they would cut out your heart with a wooden spoon in a business deal, just like the Rockefellers, the Astors, Microsoft, GM or any other American business would. But you don't have to worry about them violating the contract. They will stick to the terms of the deal like glue. In dealing with Chinese merchants on a retail level, I have never found it necessary to count my change. They have their own brand of business ethics, but cheating or stealing is not in the code. If you are a gullible rube they will take you to the cleaners, sure, so will almost any businessman. But if you keep your wits about you, you will find that the average Chinese businessman or woman is no Enron-er. I DO make the exception of dealing with the Mainland Chinese government. They are NOT representative of the average Chinese, and need careful watching in business deals.

On a one-to-one level, the Chinese are actually very honest and open and with little guile in personal relations. Refreshingly so. Polite and deferrential to the guest. It is only when you get into the communist government/military upper echelons that the mean streak shows.

Never play poker or craps with a Chinese man. They do not cheat but they are ruthless poker players. Better than the Japanese. Gambling does seem to be a disease there more than here. Worse even than in the Philippines. But it seems to be concentrated in the males. The women ARE, as has been said, superior managers of the household and its finances. But if you are an honest, working man you should not see the shrewish side of your bride. But what do you expect of a woman who has to run a house and raise children if she has a man who drinks and gambles to excess? She is doing what is necessary to maintain the family, and Chinese burn incense at the altar of family even more than Filipinos and Japanese.

Do I have as much experiece with Chinese women as Tim? No. But I can probably say I have had more business dealings with them on a military and later a personal level. And my views can not be perceived as being slanted by being married to one of the delightful creatures. I have had many contemporaries who married Taiwanese women and brought them to the US. After men married to Filipinas, I found the men married to Chinese women the happiest, with those married to Japanese women (still fairly rare back then) a close third.

Tim is fortunate in that if there should be a reversal of fortune, or a sudden illness on his part, his Wendy will be an absolute rock. She is fully capable of taking over and running things until Tim should get back on his feet. She has ten thousand generations of her Chinese women ancestors behind her as genetic backup. The Chinese civilization predates Europe's by thousands of years.

Now, since there are over a billion Chinese, and as Tim said, internet useage growing, you are bound to find more Chinese scammers than those from, say, Andorra. Sheer numbers make the difference. And China has no corner on internet scams. I believe that per capita, America has more scams of all sorts, including internet, than any other nation on earth.

As for American women, well, Sibyl Sheppard (SP?) was on the tv the other day at my daughter's house. She told of a business where women can do CREDIT CHECKS on men before they go out with them. PUH-LEEZE!!!! I can see a security check if you are a public figure, but average women are doing credit checks on men, buying their Social Security numbers and then running full background investigations on them. And not just famous women back in the dating scene, everyday women. Thankfully it seems to be concentrated in California and New York City, the two centers of weirdness in Amercia. But are they representative of my daughters? Of course not.

To all: We are leaving for Argentina Friday and will be gone for a couple of weeks. After we get back, Vicky and I will knock our heads together and try to post some observations. Will it be a travelogue, with hotels and restaurant reviews? No. Where we eat and stay is our business. I don't publish too much on the internet that can be used to track us. What we will concentrate on is the business practices and the people and their views. The gestalt of the country as we see it.

Later, folks.

Don

So all these men believe there are negative aspects to women in this country.  But since you believe that no one culture is more dishonest than any other, perhaps you think that all these perceived negative characteristics about AWs are wrong, too, and that in fact, AWs are just as loving, giving, willing to compromise, play a supporting role, etc. as are women of Asia, Latin America, etc.

By the way, even if we disagree, I will never state that I think your views are moronic.

Hamlet

- Jeff S.

For the most part, I would have to agree with Tim's point about the various cultures. If there is any relevance to the recent trend of scammers, I tend to believe it has more to do with people who heretofore had no access to the internet recently obtaining ready access. (Recently as in the last few years)

Any time you add into this equation the poverty and desperation of a third world country I think you will find nearly the same results anywhere.

The U.S., being the richest nation in the world, cannot fairly be compared.

The only way one could make a fair general comparison would be to go to these various countries and meet the people VIA some other method than the internet.

Just my opinion.

Larry.