venting

[Jay]

... in response to I liked that one too! LOL , posted by Dave H on Sep 5, 2002

Hey Dave,
LOL!

Pinch her twice, just to make sure they say it everytime!

Jay

[Dave H]

... in response to I know what you mean..., posted by Dave H on Sep 5, 2002

Is the Tagalog sound. My only disappointment is that Haitains aren't listed. I used to find it hard to keep a straight face when they were warbling. Of course, when a patient is seriously ill or injured, they usually make less noise.

Dave H.

[Jimbo]

... in response to Re: Rhere are always two pointd of view ..., posted by Jay on Sep 4, 2002

I agree with that Jay!

Jim

[Zebson]

... in response to D@mn!, posted by Jimbo on Sep 4, 2002

I uncovered one of my file folders and all of the WU,'s (western union's) monies that I had sent over our time together..And that set me back a moment in time in more ways than one. Oh well you know to be honest, there are a lot of things I just plain clammed up about after dealing with the initial situation between Helen and I. I just sort of went into my own world for time..Mostly I dont believe in personally slamming someone with verbal rages and names. However, I have no problem with revealing some of the past in reflection. I can say in all honesty that their was more than one source in Manila after Helen arrived back there that revealed related to me even before Helen got her claws into Bear's and honey's side, that she was going around saying things about my bad treatment of her and other eccentric stuff like not providing her with this and that. In reality, Helen was very well provided for all along in our relationship and finacially and with emotional support. I know she just never forgave me apparently for the ceratin times in (PI, Reference Archives PAGE 64, to JON,was "my unfinished note" under the topic "SHARING IMPRESSIONS". Now Bear and many I think missed this, which might have led him to fall for what she said when she was over there too) But she still then went on and did what she did to me in a calculated planned way..Another thing that got me too is after the whole thing was over, is she would slam me bad over there to justify and explain her return to various friends, family and people. While all the while still emailing me at the same time and acting like nothing had happened between us, my head still goes into a spin when I try to figure that one out. I would keep telling her that it's over it's over, do you realize what you did to me...Anyway that was a whole nother chapter. I think she has gotten the point now. What hurt the most is that Helen would never ask for forgiveness for her actions, that set me back so much. And I still now have a hard time developing new relationships without a sense of a jaded mistrusting feeling like is this woman lying about this or that and why? So that will take a long time for me to get over. But time heals...

Zeb

[Dave H]

... in response to Ahh it's ok now,  but the other night......, posted by Zebson on Sep 5, 2002

Hey Zeb,

I was married for 12 1/2 years and never got an apology. I finally quit waiting for it and forgave the ex in my mind. It takes some time and then a patient woman to help you heal. Things sometimes come out subconsciously and it's tough on the new lady. In the begining of our relationship, I heard "I'm not your ex" from my wife a few times. I've  learned to trust more every day and to keep my deja vu in check. Funny how something will occasionally trigger a bad memory. I don't say anything and then my wife acts in a completely different (appropriate) manner than I half-expected. She has also learned not to take everything so personal. Good Luck!

Dave H.

[Jay]

... in response to Ahh it's ok now,  but the other night......, posted by Zebson on Sep 5, 2002

Hi Zeb,

After reading that archive, I must say that it sounds like you may have screwed up, with that can't commit stuff. I don't think Filipina's are used to that. Sound's like you were going through something emotional. I know from experience that Filipina's generaly aren't used to too much emotion from thier men, and they're really shocked when it comes from a Kano. It makes them kind of nutty, they don't know what to make of it. It can also make them think your nutty, too. It's not the Filipino way.

I knew when Bear mentioned her side of the story that she was saving face. She had to.

Jay

[Zebson]

... in response to Re: Ahh it's ok now,  but the other nigh..., posted by Jay on Sep 5, 2002

Yea Jay your right, my gut was telling me something just wasn't quite right between her and I even ahead of time. But I kept thinking, It was my fault and that I just had cold feet and had been independant too long. And then when I finally tried to do good for something right, the doubt often comes to the surface in many bizzare ways. What got me was that she followed through on coming over after that incident and then meeting that European guy and that whole bit. I could have handled her dropping me, after the Dumaguete thing, but going on the whole time incognito of her real feelings, that was the like taking the knife and twisting it....

Zeb

[kevin]

... in response to Re: Re: Ahh it's ok now,  but the other ..., posted by Zebson on Sep 5, 2002


especially when it might involve coming face to face with Satan's daughter.  I beleive this is what happened to you.  Your heart was telling you something as she was messing with your head big time.  She did procure some victories and was continuing to try to set you up.

Fortunately you caught that fishy e-mail.  That was a warning.  Then she disappeared to the hotel and covered up her actions with lame but rational-sounding excuses.

No need to feel in a sense jealous of other guys she might have seduced and spread her legs for.  How can Angelo expect she'll be faithful and loving to him?  Most of all, that European guy does not realize the clusterf*** bind he got sucked into yet.

You should be proud of yourself for taking action when you did so that you can have a life, live the life you want to live, and be the person you want to be.

- Kevin

[Howard]

... in response to Sometimes men may have intuition . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 5, 2002

Kev

Too funny!!!  Gerlie gets funny when I refer to this girl I dated before I met Ayesa as the Devil's daughter, but it cracks me up  Maybe she moved to the Philipines!  LOL

Sorry, off topic, I know

LOL

H

[Dave H]

... in response to Re: Re: Ahh it's ok now,  but the other ..., posted by Zebson on Sep 5, 2002

Zeb,

I always felt that your subconscious or instinct may have been telling you something was not right and maybe that was why you wanted to take off.

Dave H.

[Stephen]

... in response to Rhere are always two pointd of view betw..., posted by Bear on Sep 4, 2002

Is Walt going to keep that gal here?  Boy....he's got a mess on his hands.

Stephen

[Bear]

... in response to Bear...., posted by Stephen on Sep 4, 2002

I think so!!!  He is just so desparate for affection that he is making one mistake after another and that Filipina will make him pay dearly for it.

Bear and Honey

[Stephen]

... in response to Re: Bear...., posted by Bear on Sep 4, 2002

Yeah....I never quite understood Bear getting together with Vivian or Helen.

I'll tell you this....I'm sure not gonna give Bear my ex-wife's name and address.  Or he'll look her up and then come back and tell everyone here HER SIDE OF THE STORY.

Hell...there's only room for one side here....MINE!!  LOL

Stephen

[Jay]

... in response to Re: Re: Bear...., posted by Stephen on Sep 5, 2002

n/t

[kevin]

... in response to Re: Bear...., posted by Bear on Sep 4, 2002


and women are like devils.  This proverb rings true to a degree.  It sounds like Walt is following her around like a puppy dog and if she says jump over the Brooklyn bridge, he'll try but will go crazy because he can't possibly make it over.  If a woman chooses evil over good, she knows exactly what trick to use because she knows a man's urges and heartfelt yearnings and this is where he's the most vulnerable.

- Kevin