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Author Topic: why simple women?  (Read 18505 times)
Frank O
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Point well taken., posted by david hagar on Jun 23, 2005

You said what I wanted to in a much more concise way. Man I wish I could have said that.
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Art
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Point well taken., posted by david hagar on Jun 23, 2005

But don't you want one to mind you.  She'll respect you by being the man of the house and not the wimp, like so many guys are. And with that respect will come a loving and caring wife, just as you will give here all the respect as well.

If you can't make solid long term decisions, the lady will pick up on this rather easily and just like here in America.

They'll make the decisions for you and pretty soon you'll look rather weak to her and who knows.  She just might ask  you one day, are you a man or a mouse?

Granted not all women are like.  I would assume the well educated women are not likely to want to be obedient as their more focus on their lives achieving status.

It's really also who you are and what you like in your life.
I guess there are some guys who like being weak and let their wives decide for their fate.

Typically, when the guy says "yes, dear" when she's barking orders at him...  Well, the shows over for that dude in my opinion.

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Felinessa
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: well duh..., posted by Art on Jun 24, 2005

Art, I wanted to argue with you, but then I just started laughing.

You're too much.

How about making decisions as a couple?  I think that beats having to worry about who's wearing the pants and who's the woose.

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Art
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: well duh..., posted by Felinessa on Jun 24, 2005

Reasoning objectively and weight her opinion equally against mine.  If we had come to a stand off for a decision.

It would ultimately be MY decision as the head of the household to make the choice.  This is what men are suppose to do in families, make decisions.  
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Where I'm coming from is alot of women just don't know when to shutup and they start annoying their partner to point where the man is like being over ruled or underminded.

Do you not agree, that sometimes when you argue with your boyfriend.  That it is for petty reasons and your trying to win him over just so you can claim a victory.

What your also doing is leaving a imprint in his mind.
"Do I really want to marry this girl who keeps challenging me?"
I doubt, if he will admit this to you.  But, it will be in the back of his mind and he will start looking around for another suitable lady who doesn't challenge his well being.

I look at a family as one cohesive work of art.  In small towns dotted all over the country sides there are men and women who have stayed married together for 40-50-60 years in length.  What is their secret ?

I think in most cases you will find the man was the bread winner and made all the important decisions and the wife back up her husband.   I would be willing to bet the vast majority of the reasons Americans have such high divorce rates it's because of they're both trying to assert their place in the home as the leader of the family.  And, they no doubt argue about petty things... Which essential drives a wedge inbetween the man and his wife.

We could probably say it's money that divides families, but if the man would have taken the approach to living thrifty and living within their means finanically.  The other spouse would not have had to take a job and thus gaining independence.  My point is - what's more important making more money and paying on debt or living within your means and having your wife raise your kids.

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Felinessa
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: In my instance I would listen to my ..., posted by Art on Jun 24, 2005

"It would ultimately be MY decision as the head of the household to make the choice. This is what men are suppose to do in families, make decisions."

Who made you the head of the household?Huh And who decided what "men are supposed to do"? Are you a time traveller? Women's rights happened in the meanwhile.

"Do you not agree, that sometimes when you argue with your boyfriend. That it is for petty reasons and your trying to win him over just so you can claim a victory."

No, I don't agree.  First of all, we don't argue over petty stuff.  Secondly, I don't need the victory.  The victory lies in finding compromises that work for both of us.

"I think in most cases you will find the man was the bread winner and made all the important decisions and the wife back up her husband. "

Yah, well, I'll be making twice as much as him, which makes me the bread winner.  And we'll still make decisions democratically, because this dominance thing is not only archaic, it's illogical.

If you want a servant to boss around, get a servant.  But if you want a wife, you might find that she's not going to be down with the household having only one head.

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LP
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: In my instance I would listen to..., posted by Felinessa on Jun 24, 2005

[This message has been edited by LP]

As Arnold would say: I'll be back...

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OldRed
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: In my instance I would listen to..., posted by Felinessa on Jun 24, 2005

Your response to Art just exemplified why we Western Men have turned to what we perceive as the ideal mate. A woman that will allow us to be the head of the household, such as our fathers were before us. Then along came the women's libers and emasculated men and now you wonder why we are looking overseas for our mates? Well women wanted equal rights...you now have them and can't figure out why men can't deal with it.
If you want to wear the dockers or levis, then go for it. Doesn't mean we all have to accept it.
Now, you have the answer to a previous question you asked. Why simple women?
We want to know we are respected and loved..not lorded over or undermined if our ideas are not totally acceptable to our spouces.
I'm not a tyrant, but when my opinion or idea does not fit the Western Woman's and she decides that's it's unacceptable, it boils down to respect. I am no longer the man of the house...just an occupant..a paycheck.
If that sounds like I'm beating on my chest, then you would be correct in your observation.
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Art
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: In my instance I would listen to..., posted by Felinessa on Jun 24, 2005

I hope your marriage works out.  Best Regards.
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