Important questions

[Giraffe]

I have a couple of important questions. I don't mean them with any derogatory slant, so please don't take them the wrong way.
I have repeatedly read that men are attracted to the "MOB" scenario because they find American and western women to be undesireable socially. I read terms like bitches, self-centered, cold etc. Also, I read about western divorce rates, and bad break ups.
The primary point of attraction solicited for Eastern women is that they have different values. Old fashioned, warm hearted, good wives.
The last couple of times I looked at this board, participants were anything but happy with thier eastern mates, and today, the threads with Scaught and Felinessa...wow. They could almost call this board planet anger.

1) If the reality is that so much negativity exists here also, why go to all the trouble to take the same chances in Russia that you would at home? That's my first question.

2) The second one is: What do the men in this scenario percieve as the "eastern" character. Especially the old fashioned traditional values stuff I've read. If so many of these girls were born after 1980 in cities the size of Kiev and Moscow, what would make them old fashioned? And what is that really - like house wives?

Not trying to cast a shadow over any one, but I just feel that Canadian women are nice enough to me, and I date once in a while. Maybe not enough to please me, but I get by. So what would be the attraction to looking to other countries? It seems just as complicated and risky as relationships at home.

[Charles]

... in response to Important questions, posted by Giraffe on Jun 16, 2005

I think you raise a very important point.  I think the idea that there are superior qualities in RW vs AW, etc. is a whole lot of bunk.  If you're looking for a fashion model in the FSU because you can't get one here you are likely to crash and burn, and, in any event, as has been pointed out, there is a growing number of RW who now live in the U.S. and Canada.  In my case, I wasn't really looking for a RW.  I met my wife - we have now been happily married for over 4 years - on match.com while looking for American women.  She is a wonderful lady, who just happenned to be from Crimea.  When we read the stories of FrankO, Scaught, etc., as well as some of our own personal experiences with other AM/RW marriages, we consider ourselves extremely lucky and fortunate.  IMHO, to embark on a "search" for a RW is not the way to find a wife.  Instead, you should seek out all options and not rely on generalizations of whether RW, AW, Latin, Asian, etc. is good or bad.

[Felinessa]

... in response to Re: Important questions, posted by Charles on Jun 16, 2005

I actually agree with Giraffe that there are nice and interesting people around here.  I don't know why people say that Western women aren't attractive, for example.  I live in Ottawa, which is a very stylish city, and there are tons of beautiful, exotic, elegant women.  Whenever I go back home to Romania, a lot of the women there strike me as disgustingly skinny, vulgar, too made-up, etc.  It's hard to believe that those women once gave me serious self-esteem issues.

I also think that Charles hit the nail right on the head when he said that people hope to land a model that they could never get here.  It's hard to ignore the fact that a lot of men (especially on the Latina board) emphasize looks beyond anything else, because they know they could afford to buy a foreign beauty.  Here, they either make their own money and go after equally beautiful young men, or they require a lot more than their foreign counterparts.

Another thing is that supposed domesticity.  I don't know guys, a lot of girls in Eastern Europe don't lift a finger until they get married because their parents do all the chores.  Maybe it's different in rural areas.  I left home to study abroad when I was very young, so necessity taught me things like cleaning and cooking, although I can't say I enjoy them.  I know women who went to uni in their hometown, so they never moved out, and they are still clueless about everything.  So I'd keep expectations in check as far as that goes.  Plus, if they come here, do you really expect them to want to stay in the kitchen and cook?