stuffy board

[Ray]

... in response to Re: stuffy board, posted by kevin on May 1, 2002

I think you’re wrong Kevin. I don’t see any negative type cliques on this board like you’ll find on a lot of other forums. Everybody here pretty much behaves and treats other posters with respect, with a very few exceptions. You say that you are subject to the persistent disdain of one or more belligerents? Whom might that be Kevin? Are you fearful of saying the wrong thing? I think you have had every opportunity to express your views on this forum over the past two years.

I respect your right and everyone else’s right to state their opinions and comments on this forum and I always have. But that respect should work both ways. Posters here should also respect the right of others to disagree with their views or respond to anything they say, especially if it is something of a controversial nature. If someone offers an opposing viewpoint, we should all be able to disagree and discuss the issues in an adult manner, without resorting to violent outbursts and petty name-calling. I think those kind of tactics are good examples of that belligerent behavior that you speak of that undermines the atmosphere of objective discussion.

Please feel free to respond or disagree with anything that I said.

Ray

[kevin]

... in response to I disagree..., posted by Ray on May 2, 2002

Well, you know exactly who I was probably referring to.  I must say that when I'm continually attacked, I don't forget.  With you, you'll always have the last word.  If I say something, you'll either try to challenge me and make me look stupid, or deny the reality of a situation.  If something positive is happening in my life, and I share it here, you don't hesitate to shoot me down.  Well, if you get you're jollies trying to put me down, that's fine with me so long as you're not a threat to my personal welfare.

- Kevin

[Ray]

... in response to Re: I disagree..., posted by kevin on May 2, 2002

“Well, you know exactly who I was probably referring to”. Now how are we supposed to know exactly who you were “probably” referring to Kevin? Are we supposed to read your mind? If you want to flame someone, at least be man enough to use his or her name.

“If I say something, you'll either try to challenge me and make me look stupid, or deny the reality of a situation”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that I have the right to respond to any of your posts. If anyone disagrees with something you say, they have every right to challenge you, as you yourself do also. Whenever someone disagrees with you, you seem to take it as a personal attack. That sounds a little paranoid to me. If someone disagrees, you have the right to respond, but you don’t have the right to make personal attacks against that person by calling him or her names and impugning their character. You won’t hesitate to respond if you read something that you disagree with, but you somehow expect that nobody should ever disagree with you. Is that fair Kevin? I don’t think so. You’re no more special than anyone else here and your opinions are no more correct than those of others.

I don’t know what your intention was by making accusations against "unnamed individuals" in your response to outwest, but it sure looks like you were trying to start another fight AGAIN.

Just my opinion,

Ray

[kevin]

... in response to Re: Re: I disagree..., posted by Ray on May 2, 2002

Actually, I was trying to be discreet, FYI.  It's funny how the stuff you accuse me of, you're actually the one who does it with an air of impunity.  Who on this board has insulted me personally in the past?  Who, in this board, in the past, when I was new, called me a "Weenie" and a "Wimp"?  That post is in the archives somewhere if it wasn't lost or edited in the archiving process.

You've attacked me enough, and persistently, to leave a lasting negative impression about you in my mind and heart, and a bad taste in my mouth.

Perhaps the start of this particular battle was more of my doing than yours.  Well, I have pent-up anger in me towards you and somebody said something that was "right on the button".  Why should I be afraid I might offend you?  After all, you've repeatedly insulted me left and right.  I post about a new friendship a while back.  You then come and attack me to the tune that anybody that introduces me to a nice girl is crazy, blah...blah...blah.  That's one sore instance of a personal attack by you directed at me that it will take a long time for me to forget.

- Kevin

[Ray]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I disagree..., posted by kevin on May 2, 2002

Kevin, I and others here have been called some pretty nasty names by YOU on numerous occasions. You love to flame others but then you cry like a baby when you hear something you don’t like. When are you going to stop feeling sorry for yourself and get on with your life? This victim mentality of yours is holding you back from ever achieving any real happiness in your life. Now you’re bringing up stuff that was “supposedly” said over two years ago? You sound like a very hateful and vengeful person, letting your emotions be ruled by your pent up anger over little things that happened way back in your past. So now I guess I can expect more of your belligerent flame posts every time you see an opportunity to throw some stones. If that’s how you get your jollies, then have at it my friend. But please do us all a favor, and use my name next time so we don’t have to guess who you are “probably” flaming.

You know what Kevin, after all the hateful names that you’ve called me on this forum I really don’t feel any anger or hatred toward you because it just doesn’t matter. If anyone judges me by what you say in your hateful rages, then that’s their problem, not mine. No, I don’t hate you Kevin because you are just another insignificant poster on a Web forum. I feel sorry for you that you have to lay awake at night seething with anger and hatred over this silly stuff. I truly hope that some day you can learn to deal with your emotions and finally have peace in your life.

Ray

[kevin]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: I disagree..., posted by Ray on May 2, 2002

If I ever refereed to anybody in a negative way (I know I did not call anybody a nasty name) it was either a troll or a smart-aleck rubbing salt in the wound about a sore issue.

You say I throw stones for the sake of doing it when the opportunity arises.  It seems to me, that a while back, perhaps several months ago, in one of your posts, you had made reference to me (yes, I'm positive you did cite my name) that I had a bad attitude towards women, I forgot exactly.  I'd have to search the archives.  Anyways, I had not posted in awhile.  There was no need for that.  You expect me to sit back and meekly take your insults like you're God high up above casting an adverse judgement about me.

Smile, Ray, Smile!

- Kevin

[Ray]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I disagree..., posted by kevin on May 2, 2002

Yes Kevin, why don’t you go back and search the archives and read my response again, but this time try to do it with an open mind. That post was not meant as an insult or an “attack” on you and no, I don’t hate you. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again Kevin.  The people who always pat you on the back and agree with everything you say are not necessarily your best friends. Sometimes it takes a friend to be brutally honest when they see you doing something that may be harmful or wrong. When you are focused only on your own pain, you sometimes fail to see the affect that your words or actions may have on others. If someone says something that you don’t want to hear, don’t automatically consider it an “attack” on your person and don’t automatically assume that that person is your enemy.

I guess you still can’t see the reason why I made those comments because you had already made up your mind long ago that I was your “enemy” and I was only out to embarrass and humiliate you. You’re probably one of the most sensitive guys who have ever posted here regularly. A lot of people have tried to help you by offering advice or commenting on something you have said. If those comments or ideas don’t fit into your own narrow view of the world, it doesn’t mean that they were made in an effort to put you down. Just try to open your mind and listen to other viewpoints before you strike out at the writer in “self defense” against a perceived personal attack on you. If you can objectively consider opposing points of view, you may just learn something. If you want to close your mind to any criticism of your thoughts or actions, then it’s your loss.

I think you have already placed a lot of posters here on your “enemy list” because they have said something that you didn’t like. If you want to consider me your enemy and go through life hating me, I really don’t care Kevin. It really means nothing to me. If I comment on anything you say or do, I guess you will automatically consider it an attempt to insult and humiliate you, but I won’t let that stop me from expressing my views or responding to anything that is posted on this forum. Anything you say here is open for comment or discussion as far as I’m concerned, so be forewarned that you may not like everything that you hear. You know what Kevin? That’s life.

And yes Kevin, I am smiling. You should also try to do more of the same also... :-)

Ray

[outwest77]

... in response to Re: stuffy board, posted by kevin on May 1, 2002

lol, maybe the ones like you and me who are just lurkers without posting very often can form our own club,
i just returned from my first trip to the phils and it
was absolutely amazing,
cant wait to go back,
never got so much attention from  women in my life,
thanks for the response though, im sure we will exchange
views on many topics.

[joemc]

... in response to Re: stuffy board, posted by kevin on May 1, 2002

Hey Kevin,
       Don't be down on yourself,
       you still have fans on this board.
       What is going on in your world,
       just another rainy day in Seattle
                                               joemc
       
                                     

[kevin]

... in response to Re: Re: stuffy board ,  Kevin, posted by joemc on May 1, 2002

Final exam time is coming soon, I've got to take a summer course, then it's time to graduate.

As far as my love life is concerned, I've got several pinay friends at various levels, but nobody I'm serious or exclusive with.  I've got my eyes open to new girls (pinay girls) whether introduced in the Philippines or the United States.

The Apo Hiking Society came to Rhode Island this Saturday.  Elizabeth Matyka and Janet Basco also performed. They were sponsored by the Hope Foundation.  Janet Basco reminds me so much of Dionne Warwick, the way she sings.

There were so many pretty girls in the crowd who attended.  But they were strangers.  A couple of girls I saw, I'd be delighted to go out with.  As well as introduction through correspondence, I'm open to meeting a nice pinay through social functions which I think is quite possible.

- Kevin

[joemc]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: stuffy board ,  Kevin, posted by kevin on May 1, 2002

well I'm glad that things are looking up for you.
as they say, things in life happen when you less expect it

          keep the faith,    joemc