In Praise of 30 Year Olds

[tim360z]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Statistics & Folklore &a..., posted by Jack on Nov 13, 2003

People?  They all got all kinds of opinions based upon whats cooking---- up in their ole cranial cavity.  Nice to read Mark's occasional posts.  But, like many of us,  we are confined to our opinions.  IMHO's are a good idea, rather than mentioning some non-existent stats.  Some of us may value our opinions too highly.  And 1 size don't fit all.

[Jack]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Statistics & Folklor..., posted by tim360z on Nov 13, 2003

Ok, Tim, I think your statement of "Some of us may value our opinions too highly" will pretty much wrap up this thread.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Statistics, posted by Bobby Orr on Nov 13, 2003

1. Statistics for what?

2. I honestly don't care what you do.

3. I have no idea what of the facts you refer to, which I used and turned out wrong. And I was "not tooting my own horn", I was tooting the horn of a lot of wonderful women in Russia and Ukraine. And, as it turns out, I was not alone... A lot of other men who are similarly engaged to, or married to 30 year old women (and at least one who is involved with a 40 year old) chimed in...

Of all the reply posts, yours was the only one that dissented.

But, by all means... make this all about me, if it makes you feel better...

[Bobby Orr]

... in response to Re: Statistics, posted by MarkInTx on Nov 13, 2003

You claim you know the facts.  So, where are they?

[thesearch]

... in response to In Praise of 30 Year Olds, posted by MarkInTx on Nov 12, 2003

So you have joined the ranks of the age police.

Mark, I agree. It is good to remind guys about the age issue. It is too easy to forget when you go over there and a young woman is giving you a lot of attention.

Time marches on regardless and it takes its toll more aggressively as each year passes and thus two people may not look that incompatible at first even if their age difference is significant --- but that day is coming and not too far off. The situation keeps evolving into a worse scenario.

It is going to become apparent to the woman and more apparent and more apparent - eventually to the point that she has to put him in a care facility when she is still a good looking woman. People forget where they come from adjusting to where they are now and thus their view of what is acceptable and what is not changes right along with it. So, what ever her concessions were and for whatever reasons they were before prompting her to accept an older man, that situation changes and she is going to reassess her life. If a guy has it all together, a real catch as a human being and remains in good health and knows how to keep a woman happy, he has a chance. However, if this is not who he is - watch out.  

[John F]

... in response to In Praise of 30 Year Olds, posted by MarkInTx on Nov 12, 2003

No remarks, just sitting here thinking of my 30+ year old RW wife with a knowing grin on my face.  Ain't no way I'd trade her for a younger woman.

[wilmc]

... in response to In Praise of 30 Year Olds, posted by MarkInTx on Nov 12, 2003

Excellent post, Thank you.

I am a lot older than most of the guys posting. After 27 years my wife and I ended a marriage that had died.

I began dating AW's and was very disappointed by their attitudes and mental states.  Drifted into some on line Russian agencies. Attracted by the pretty pictures I guess.  Being realistic though I chose only to correspond with "mature" ladies.  Qualifications: all were listed on "free" agencies, all were highly educated, had high level of English skills, with grown children, and lived in Moscow.  There were a few "scammers," but they were easily identified early in the game. I have dated 4 RW's, 3 are now married to other "Western" gentlemen. I am proud to say we are all friends and correspond with each other regularly.  The 4th lady is a very special friend and after 3 visits to Moscow and some holidays together we are about ready to tie the knot.

I assume that I was extremely lucky because all of my chosen ladies were very smart, level headed, took very good care of themselves and were physically very attractive but most important they were "good people."  

Bottom line, there are a lot of terrific "mature," women in the FSU.  If you have some grey in your hair don't let your crotch do your thinking for you.  Once you have tasted shashlyk and pelmeni you will never go back to McDonalds.

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: In Praise of 40 & 50 year olds a..., posted by wilmc on Nov 12, 2003

If I might ask, what age is this lady.

The reason that I ask is that it seems to me that a larger age difference is not as significant an issue for an older man if he is in good health. I mean a guy fourty who has a twenty year age spread is marrying an immature 20 year old. Whereas someone like yourself would be marrying someone 42. Personally, I think that except in certain situations a 20 year spread is a bit much but someone 15 years younger than you if you are in good health is not a big deal the way I look at it.

[wilmc]

... in response to Re: Re: In Praise of 40 & 50 year ol..., posted by thesearch on Nov 13, 2003

I am 60.  She is 8 years younger than me but looks 10 years younger than that.  Fortunately, I also have been blessed with a much more youthful appearance than my age.  We look fairly well matched, age wise.  I wish I were as trim as she is.  The American diet and suburban living has cost me and my waistline, otherwise I am in good health.

[kevin c]

... in response to In Praise of 30 Year Olds, posted by MarkInTx on Nov 12, 2003

there are probly some AW who are single mothers with children that would be appreciative  of a good man  
but i cant figure out how to send ex husbands to the other side of the globe  

seriously though the fact the ex/dad is in ukraine
solves some of the problems that would go allong with
an ex   across town

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: In Praise of 30 Year Olds, posted by kevin c on Nov 12, 2003

Yeah, I can agree with that.

In fact, if I could somehow send my ex-wife to the other side of the Globe, I think Victoria would be a lot happier!

[Stevo]

... in response to In Praise of 30 Year Olds, posted by MarkInTx on Nov 12, 2003

very reason that I wanted a hottie who would stick around with a 20-year older husband.  I figured that if she had no children, she'd be much more inclined to 'flight'.  PLUS, I didn't want to have a frigging BABY at my age and all the work that entails.  By marrying a woman with a 6-year old daughter, it reduced the pressure on me to have a baby with her, plus I got an instant family.

I pity the idiots chasing a 20 year younger woman w/o a child because 'they already had their children'.  What do you think this young woman w/o a child is gonna' want right away?  So, you'd rather have a BABY instead of a 6-year-old?!  Duh!!

Stevo

[MarkInTx]

... in response to I SPECIFICALLY chose a woman with a chil..., posted by Stevo on Nov 12, 2003

Some would say that when you have a 21 year old who has a baby, that now you have two...

BTW, I agree with your assessment... a woman with a child is more likely to want a secure family than a hot husband...

[thesearch]

... in response to Well...., posted by MarkInTx on Nov 12, 2003

I don't think is bride is 21. I may be wrong

[Jeff S]

... in response to In Praise of 30 Year Olds, posted by MarkInTx on Nov 12, 2003

... and I couldn't love my wife's "baggage" any more than if she were my own. I met my daughter when she was 8, we married when she was 10 and a couple years ago, I was the proudest daddy when she graduated from college, cum laude.

- Jeff