Receiving Emails

[Globetrotter]

... in response to Ok....., posted by Travis on Sep 30, 2003

I don't think anyone here is "gunning" for you...just the opposite.  Whereby everyone likes success stories, failures are important to warn others of the dangers in this pursuit
and the need to be cautious.  LP is right in that any woman is capable of a con and "Academy Award" performances.  

So.........please continue your story and tell us what you could have done better, and what you will do better the next time.  And, always cover your ass with a pre-nup!!!

[Richard]

... in response to Re: Ok....., posted by Globetrotter on Oct 1, 2003

I'm glad I'm not the only one who would like to see Travis continue posting his story.

[LP]

... in response to Re: Re: Ok....., posted by Richard on Oct 2, 2003

...but only out of curiousity. I mean, do you really think he can be totally objective after what he's been through? Can anyone in that situation? Old DSD sure wasn't.

I think Travis is an alright kinda guy but I wonder if there is really anything to be learned. I guess we'll find out. But if not, it serves no real purpose. It'll have no more value than Jerry Springer and I for one see little point in having another man's misfortune publicized. Unless there were some mighty strange and unusual circumstances it's really not valuable and I hope Travis is capable of making the distiction. If nothing else, I suppose his experience could be veiwed as a simple deterrent.

[LP]

... in response to Ok....., posted by Travis on Sep 30, 2003

.....slack it is then. And I regret you got bent. I know I can be abrasive at times, I've heard it before. No, you're nothing like the SD man was but if you recall I'm also one of the very few who had any sympathy for him. And this is after he was warned many times he was making a mistake.

I really do care. Making mistakes is OK, making then over again is not. I hate to see anyone get hurt, especially when they do it to themselves. God knows there's enough people in the world willing to do it for us. Just be careful out there and we'll get along fine. You try harder to use caution and I'll try harder to write with WmGo's class and eloquence.

Btw, simply by realizing you're not a genius puts you well on the path to being one...

[Travis]

... in response to Yeah...., posted by LP on Sep 30, 2003

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[Travis]

... in response to Hey Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Travis on Sep 30, 2003

nt

[Travis]

... in response to Hey Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Travis on Sep 30, 2003

nt

[Richard]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Receiving Emails, posted by lswote on Sep 27, 2003

Some of us, me included, can be a little slow on the uptake at times.  While I can't speak for Travis, I suspect that he suspects something isn't quite right and that is why he is asking questions.  I am lucky enough to have a good friend I can ask this type to off board.  

Travis, keep asking questions - it's better than being taken. (I'm speaking from my personal experience here.)

This is a place to come learn. While those of us without the greatest social skills may be an embarrassment to those with highly polished social skills, the only way we can improve is by trying.

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Receiving Emails, posted by Richard on Sep 27, 2003

True enough, but he should have a little more first hand experience than the average newbie now that he has had first hand experience with a scammer.  It seems like all the women were pretty suspect and he should have a little bit better indicators of his own by now, particularly with a woman sending sexually explicit letters.

[Richard]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Receiving Emails, posted by lswote on Sep 28, 2003

Reality often differs from the ideal situation (ideal as in should have more experience). Some people, like me, catch on more slowly in this area than many. When I was involved with my ex fiance, this board was the best clue I had that it wasn't what it should be.

I think that this type of post is useful so that people can look at them and hopefully not bring over someone that they shouldn't. I think that while you do make a good point, you are discouraging people from coming forth and posting loosing oportunities for people (both the poster and potential readers) to learn.

Instead of making posts about what a lousy job you think the poster is doing, would it be possible for you to concentrate on the positve, like how he recoginized a less than ideal situation and what can be done to improve / avoid situations like this?

[Travis]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Receiving Emails, posted by lswote on Sep 27, 2003

See, stupid people do learn...sometimes the hard way. There wasn't anything in my previous post regarding me sending cash or getting my butt over there to marry as soon as possible.

[thesearch]

... in response to Receiving Emails, posted by Travis on Sep 25, 2003

Travis,

I agree with everyone below.

I would not be shy in your letters. Be direct - ask a question and only one question and if there is not a response to the question, write back to her stating that it seems that the letter is canned as she did not respond to your letter. Ask her what gives and that if she does not respond personally to your letters you will not continue to write to her.

[lswote]

... in response to Re: Receiving Emails, posted by thesearch on Sep 25, 2003

I wrote to Russian women before deciding on Latin women and one trick that I had pulled on me a couple times, is instead of answering my questions, they would say something along the lines of "Why didn't you answer my questions?  Perhaps you are selfish and feel that it isn't necessary which explains your past problems with women."

This really threw me the first few times I got letters along those lines because I hadn't kept copies of the letters I had emailed them and I couldn't remember what I said or what they said to me and so I thought somehow I had insulted them but couldn't remember how.  So I spent my whole next letter to them trying to explain to them that there must be a misunderstanding.  And of course they requested money to have my letters translated.  

The thing was that it kept me distracted from seeing that THEY weren't answering MY questions.  And it gave them a seemingly legitimate reason to ask for a little money.  When I started keeping copies of everything I sent and then referred back to those letters when women made remarks like that, I then realized that these were nothing more than sophisticated form letters trying to keep you from noticing you are not actually having a conversation with a real person and the request for money was a small scam to get a few dollars from you before you realized you didn't actually have a relationship.

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: Re: Receiving Emails, posted by lswote on Sep 26, 2003

For me it was no problem as once I asked a question I expected an answer. Then, when I would ask why she did not answer the question in a subsequent letter and the response to that letter also came back as though my letter with its questions did not exist, I wrote back telling the lady that I was no longer interested in her because her letters were obviously canned and not written to me personally.

[WmGo]

... in response to Receiving Emails, posted by Travis on Sep 25, 2003

First letter canned - ok.

Second letter canned - not ok.

Therefore, "the writing is on the wall"