Success in St Petersburg!

[Stevo]

... in response to Re: The point being?..., posted by tim360z on Aug 14, 2003

It refers to German fighter pilots attacking the opposition with the sun at their backs so that the opponents are blinded.  And it has nothing to do with the Nazis...this expression was used during WWI.

Stevo

[Bobby Orr]

... in response to The point being?...n/t, posted by Stevo on Aug 13, 2003

The Germans were whom Churchill directed the above quote.  They were his enemy, not the Russians.  One and one adds up to two.  The history lesson does not apply to the quote - but it is quite interesting.

[tim360z]

... in response to History - but Churchill was referring to..., posted by Bobby Orr on Aug 14, 2003

Yes.  I had thought Churchill only meant the Germans in that quote.  Not the Russians or Hungarians.  I think Churchill was using the term (Hun) in referring to the Germans and the war which they began.

[Bobby Orr]

... in response to History - but Churchill was referring to..., posted by Bobby Orr on Aug 14, 2003

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/fh103wit.htm

[Bobby Orr]

... in response to Read the link below history buffs, posted by Bobby Orr on Aug 14, 2003

Was it really a historian who made it up??  At least Churchill did refer to Huns as Germans.

[John K]

... in response to Winston Churchill, posted by Bobby Orr on Aug 11, 2003

My mistake.  Sorry for the confusion.

[WmGo]

... in response to It comes from the "life is hard&quo..., posted by John K on Aug 6, 2003

Good post. Very good assessment and evalutation.

I hate to say it but most Western men are shark
bait over there.

[tim360z]

... in response to It comes from the "life is hard&quo..., posted by John K on Aug 6, 2003

It is a hard and brutal life there John,  the likes of which we do not really know of here.  Historically,  life has always been hard there...before "freedom" and the rise of the "mafiaocracy".  Before, Stalin and Lenin and the Bolsheviks life was hard for the average person.  In the centuries of the Czars it was again,  difficult.  Life has always been one big struggle there.  Never,  has there been a "Golden Age" of anything.  One either survives or one perishes.  

For us,  with plenty of greed and corruption here,  it is amazing the degree of corruption there.  It is pervasive and on every level and starta of the society and culture.  

Yes, amid all this one may find a true gem.  But search carefully.

[LP]

... in response to It comes from the "life is hard&quo..., posted by John K on Aug 6, 2003

[tim360z]

... in response to Two years ago...., posted by LP on Aug 5, 2003

Yes, 2 years ago you would have been "troll-stoned" for such a heresy.  Or heresies.  For some you would have been the messenger of bad news which they did not want to hear. But,  don't shoot the messenger.

From any balanced rational point of view...this pursuit is curious, at best.  It is also a biz loaded with propaganda and myths of RW to be sucked-up by the unwary.  "Success" should not be measured by finding "the one".  Thats the easy part.  Maybe success is like 5 years of marriage or ten.

Now,  there are only a couple thousand of these marriages here per year,  a mere drop in the bucket.  To support the plethora of "agencies"?  For agencies,  their "success" is in NOT having the inventory married and off the market.  It is in peddling their "services".  As many as possible.  They are selling a dream..a fantasy.  A little variation on the movie, "The Producers".  They are not really selling marriage...they are really selling, emails, translations, letter forwarding, photos, trips, interperters, apartments, flowers, roses, perfumes, stuffed bears and bunnies etc.  Thats where the money is, boy.

Putting RW's on a pedestal is just plain stupid. There is no reason for that.  No sane guy here would marry a girl after spending only a week with her....but with a Russian girl..Da.  Makes no sense.  One can reap a bitter harvest with this method.  

How many guys have I known on their wedding day who were so happy and in love that you thought they were drugged-up??? Give it a little time---2 or 3 years later...a wasteland of enimity and loathing.  

Couple weeks ago I saw this funny couple with a 7 year old. It was remarkable.  In the restaurant,  everyone was staring at them.  Difficult for people to figure out.  She was absolutely stunning, perfectly dressed. One would not guess the guy with her was her husband.  He was much older, unkept, rude, sullen and a good 100 pounds overweight.  Without a doubt...I knew she was a new Russian bride. And she was.  And she was not a happy girl and wanted out of her 2 month marriage.  We spoke for only a few moments, she was amazed at my very limited Russian.  Will this marriage survive here in the USA...of course not.  Probably would not survive anywhere.

[ChrisNJ]

... in response to Re: Two years ago....True, posted by tim360z on Aug 6, 2003

n/t

[tim360z]

... in response to So...Why did she marry him?...n/t, posted by ChrisNJ on Aug 8, 2003

I don't know her reasons.  One can guess?  We only spoke for 1-2 minutes,  when hubbie took the unruly kid outside for a few minutes.  I greeted her in Russian and she responded very well to that...big surprise.  About her marriage,  all she said was that she was going back home and that her marriage was a big mistake.

[Yeahbaby]

... in response to Re: So...Why did she marry him?..., posted by tim360z on Aug 8, 2003

I find it highly unlikely that a complete stranger you spoke to for "1-2 minutes" would be telling you such private information, give me a break..

And you should know that not all of these pairings are so perhaps blatantly mismatched.  Many look as normal as could be.

Oscar

[MtMav]

... in response to Re: Re: So...Why did she marry him?..., posted by Yeahbaby on Aug 9, 2003

smell right about his "1-2 minute" conversation with a total
stranger.

[thesearch]

... in response to Agree ........... something doesn't, posted by MtMav on Aug 9, 2003

Sure it is unusual for a complete stranger to tell a total another that she is not happy with her marriage. However, I have had far stranger and surprising conversations with people I do not know in my life.

Besides, he most likely is not telling us the whole story. He may have shared his interest in the MOB scene etc and thus this could be why I would suspect that a person might open up to a stranger. I mean what is the motive in making up a story? I think you two should give him a break. LOL