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Author Topic: A new twist on the marriage visa scam...  (Read 19029 times)
John K
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« on: July 10, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

Here Comes the Bride. Again, and Again . . .

By SUSAN SAULNY The New York Times

In a era when divorce and remarriage are commonplace, it might not be surprising for a city clerk to see some of the same names pop up on applications for marriage licenses from time to time.

But it did strike the city clerk's office as highly unusual when it learned this year that one Manhattan woman had applied for 27 marriage licenses from 1984 to 2002 and that at least a dozen others had seemingly married in numbers that were highly suspicious.

These "career brides," as one city official called them, were not marrying for love, according to the Manhattan district attorney's office, which announced yesterday that four women had been arrested and two more were being sought on felony charges punishable by up to four years in prison. The authorities said they believed that the women had offered to marry illegal immigrants for a fee, usually about $1,000. Officials said the women who had applied for the licenses sometimes actually went through with marriage ceremonies, but sometimes they did not.

A marriage would entitle the men to green cards and other benefits, including Social Security (news - web sites) and unemployment insurance, prosecutors said. The men involved in the scheme came from various countries, including Pakistan, India, Peru, Ecuador, Nigeria and the Dominican Republic, according to court papers.

Robert M. Morgenthau, the Manhattan district attorney, began his investigation after the city clerk's office raised suspicions. He said he planned to give the information to the F.B.I.-N.Y.P.D. Joint Terrorist Task Force, the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services and various United States attorneys.

Officials said the possibilities for abuse are obvious and seemingly endless, given that municipal and county databases on marriage in New York State are not linked, nor are computerized records connected state to state.

"This opens the door to a lot of other fraud and expense for the U.S. taxpayer," Mr. Morgenthau said at a news conference.

Victor L. Robles, the city clerk who reported the multiple marriages to Mr. Morgenthau in January, still seemed stunned by his findings. "I wanted to know how that's possible in the city of New York," he said yesterday in a telephone interview.

In order to marry in New York City, prospective brides and grooms must complete an affidavit that requires information about previous marriages. The application is then filed with the city clerk's office. Only once did any of the women arrested yesterday acknowledge a previous marriage on the application.

Mr. Robles, a former city councilman who took over the city clerk's office in 2001, said he was surprised when he heard about a woman who had filed for numerous marriage licenses within a short period of time.

He then learned that his office was doing only one-year computer searches on applicants.

"Somebody who got married this year could go to the Bronx next year and get married again," and not be detected, he said.

Mr. Robles also learned that records were not immediately shared among boroughs or counties.

"I said, `From now on, every time we catch somebody, we'll forward it to the district attorney's office in the respective counties,' " he said.

Since taking office, Mr. Robles, who has 54 deputies in the five boroughs, has instituted a records search that goes back 10 years, and he is lobbying for all the state's marital records to be connected.

"I hope that this whole scandal will force the city and the state to link systems so that I can punch in a name and know if someone already applied for a license," he said.

This question remains: At what point does one who often says "I do" become suspicious? After three weddings? Five? Ten?

"We have to look very closely," Mr. Robles said, adding that he had hired a lawyer whose role it is to cross-check information on people with multiple marriages. The office also demands to see divorce decrees before issuing new marriage licenses, he said.

The women who were charged yesterday Dezerrie Cortes, 40, who had applied for 27 licenses; Maria Davis, 26; Monique Figueroa, 26; and Chera Larkins, 32 worked independently of each other, officials said, and had applied for licenses to marry a total of 43 men. The charges included perjury and offering false documents to officials. There was no pattern to the schemes or identifiable ringleader, prosecutors said.

None of the four women could be reached for comment yesterday.

Ms. Cortes is being held at Rikers Island in $25,000 bail. Ms. Davis was released on her own recognizance, and Ms. Figueroa was expected in Manhattan Criminal Court for arraignment last night. Officials said Ms. Larkins had been arrested, but they did not know her whereabouts.

Ms. Davis and Ms. Cortes live in the same Lexington Avenue apartment building, a high-rise near East 121st Street.

"She goes to work and takes her son to school every day mother kinds of things," a neighbor, Karen Williams, 29, said of Ms. Cortes.

In explaining how the prospective grooms found their brides, Dan Castleman, the chief of investigations in the Manhattan district attorney's office, said: "Oftentimes it was word of mouth in the neighborhood. Some of the women made it known they were available for a price."

Others used go-betweens to arrange unions, he said, adding that most who actually married after receiving the licenses never bothered to file for divorce before applying for new licenses.

In another case, an employee in the city clerk's office is being sought on accusations that he accepted a bribe to change a bride's name in the computer system. In that case, prosecutors said, the woman scheduled to appear at the clerk's office for a marriage ceremony did not show up, and the would-be groom wanted her name removed from the record so another woman could be substituted and the wedding could go on that day.

Mr. Morgenthau said an investigation into about a dozen other repeat brides and their grooms was continuing. If the government finds that a green card application is based on a fraudulent marriage, the applicant could be immediately deported.

"We wanted to put a stop to this now," Mr. Morgenthau said. Later, he added, "But the investigation still has a ways to go."


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wsbill
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to A new twist on the marriage visa scam..., posted by John K on Jul 10, 2003

Hence the person ID must be used for the marriage process

Heck why not incorporate on it a Federal Drivers license, as a fixed standard of the rules of the road.  As we all know New Jersey drivers drive one way and Texas drivers another.   One common set of values everyone should abide by and thus have the individual state license for rules pertaining to their respective state....

More importantly all the person information is at one centrally located destination.

Actually, how it is now... When cops pull you over they run a check on your license anyway.

I do like the embedded chip idea, retina scans or biometric finger print info for identify the person.

I know Lynn is going to have a hissyfit.  But he can move to some other liberal country where human rights are so-so.

American is just one huge target, we gotta put up some barriers to keep the bad people out.

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tfcrew
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Just another case for a National ID ..., posted by wsbill on Jul 10, 2003

..sooner than many people think.
You know, "the right hand or forehead"?
Never mind marriage, it will be required just to buy food.
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WmGo
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to World ID to come.., posted by tfcrew on Jul 12, 2003

yep
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Lynn
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: World ID to come.., posted by WmGo on Jul 14, 2003

And some will welcome it as an improvement of "society", a necessary thing.
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Lynn
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: World ID to come.., posted by WmGo on Jul 14, 2003

My question is: Will you accept it?
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WmGo
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: World ID to come.., posted by Lynn on Jul 14, 2003

Kaneshna nyet!
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John K
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: World ID to come.., posted by Lynn on Jul 14, 2003

[This message has been edited by John K]

Hmmm, be branded or starve.  While Patrick Henry said "give me liberty or give me death," the death option doesn't have a lot going for it...

Still, I would likely refuse it as long as it were feasible.  Those of us with foreign wives will be behind the eightball though, as the government already has a lever to use against us: the INS (or whatever they call it now).  Were I single, I'd be more of a firebrand.  Being responsible for the wellbeing of my wife and eventually our children, I may have to make the wrong choice to protect them...

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Lynn
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Will we have a choice?, posted by John K on Jul 14, 2003

Refer to Sirach 33:20

Hosea 4:6

First you have to know who you are, then assert thyself.

Just for instance, watch the movie the Matrix, what "if" everything you had thought was truth was really a lie? An immaculate deception, how would you (meaning the average person--working to survive) know the difference, you don't have the time to stop and ask "why?". After the green card there are "options" if you are not a one of the sheeple.

I know some of you think I'm paranoid, not the case. I simply believe that we as a people (Christians included) have been decieved.

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John K
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Will we have a choice?, posted by Lynn on Jul 14, 2003

The problem is that the more you have to lose, the less likely you are to challenge the system.  Marina is everything to me.  There is nothing, nobody, no event more important to me than her.  I am not afraid to challenge the system, as long as I do not jeopardize my wife.  To go beyond that point is irresponsible.

Also, your Matrix analogy can be seen in a different light.  The character Neo didn't really challenge the Matrix; he simply learned how it worked and mastered it.  That implies an alternative for some of us...

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LP
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Certainly, we are being deceived., posted by John K on Jul 14, 2003

...Some things are more important than wives. Imho to think otherwise is irresponsible. It's easy to resist when you have nothing to lose....

I guess it's true: A man's gotta know his limitations.

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John K
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Hmm...., posted by LP on Jul 15, 2003

My values tend toward my wife and family first, everything else second.  While I don't like what I see, I won't do something to jeopardize my family life.  My wife and eventual family have a higher priority for me.

I guess it's a matter of first, knowledge, and second, the will to use that knowledge.  I don't have enough knowledge yet to feel comfortable testing the system.  I'm a careful, thorough and methodical person.  I don't take risks, unless I'm pretty sure of what I'm doing.

In the future, once I have a better grasp of things and a more secure lifestyle, I will likely try to start changing things more to my choosing.  For now, however, I'm in the "hunker down and keep your eyes open" mode...

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LP
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to To each their own opinion., posted by John K on Jul 15, 2003

[This message has been edited by LP]

..yes indeed, to each his own. Fwiw, here's mine...

"The loss of freedom is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral feeling which thinks that it's not worth the battle is much worse. The person who is unwilling to fight, who believes nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."....

John Stuart Mill, 1869

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Griffin redux
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Certainly, we are being deceived., posted by John K on Jul 14, 2003


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Lynn
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Certainly, we are being deceived., posted by John K on Jul 14, 2003

Exactly....

So many people beat their heads against the wall, trying to get to the other side. A wise man realizes the wall is an illusion. Care to follow the white rabbit?Huh?

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