... in response to Has this happened to anyone?..., posted by Watcher on Feb 11, 2003

Same thing happened to me over and over, and she gave me the same reasoning. I told her that it was over!

Steve

... in response to Has this happened to anyone?..., posted by Watcher on Feb 11, 2003

that the bare minimum to send your FSUW fiance is $1000 a month? Most men send more. Anything less would make you a cheapskate who obviously has no love for the woman. After all, these are only economic relationships.

Better luck next time.

WmGO

P.S. The going rate to send them before you meet them is $350 per month. That is the current threshold amount for determing your worthiness. $500 is much better.

... in response to Has this happened to anyone?..., posted by Watcher on Feb 11, 2003

After so much that has been written on this board about not sending money and especially after this first experience of yours that you would even ask this question.  

Speaking from my experience, with a few women from FSU area, it is really true that the good ones do not want your money and will even refuse it.  The first woman I got involved with lived in the Ukraine I sent her money before I even met her, I sort of Americanized her and she expected the money when I met her it went bad and I no longer talk or write to her today.   My second try I found another Ukraine woman, I only wrote to her and she never asked for money.  I even offered to send her something one time and she refused.  I know it was stupid to offer but it was sort of a test of mine.  Anyway with this second one I never pursued it any farther as we really had no connection even in our writing.  My third try I went to Russia and wrote to her, during this course of about 6 months of writing money came up about two times each time she made it clear that she didn’t like talking about money and that it was of no concern to her.  I offered to send her money so that she could meet me in Moscow as she lives in Togliatti.  She refused the money and said if I would like I could repay her after we met.  Everything went wonderful on our first meeting and continues in that manor today.  I just received my valentine day gift from her in the mail one of many gifts that she sends to me.  She is a good woman and real good woman would never consider talking about money even if she only had one rubel left in her pocket.  

In saying this it is my understanding when a good woman says that a foreign man is to make her feel comfortable on her visit and stay it mean in a mental and physical sense more then just giving her money all the time so she can go shopping or what ever.  Look you blew it by giving her an ATM card with an allowance and your even more blind when you simply overlooked the fact that she would overdraw the account.  You either crazy or simply a fat toad playing outside of your league?   Tell me was the woman arm candy or a trophy woman for you?

It is my feeling that to make this happen men should be completely honest with themselves.  

... in response to Has this happened to anyone?..., posted by Watcher on Feb 11, 2003

When I first met my RW in Moscow for a week, and it was the last day before my departure I had close to 2,000 rubles remaining. I hadn't planned on changing the money back to U.S. funds, I figured I would give it to her for expenses since she was traveling back to Volgograd, (her flight was already paid for). I told her as we were getting ready to go to the airport, I wanted her to have some extra cash. She was fairly stubborn not wanting anything, telling me she didn't need my money, she had enough. Well, I didn't really believe her, so I asked her for her purse & quickly scoured through it. Yes, she was loaded, she had $5 rubles and change. I stuffed the 2,000 rubles in her purse and gave her a look that she knew it would do no good to argue, they do know when to be quiet sometimes This is an example of a gal who really could have used the money but would not take it... and she lived by herself and making 1/2 of what your ex RW was making.

... in response to put those pumps on the other feets...., posted by yoe on Feb 12, 2003

Joe, whats your point? If an RW or UW requires you to send her funds while she waits for a K-1, it should be for a very good reason. The support comes when the two of you together. If it took 6 or 8 mos to file for a K-1 and you send her over hundreds or a couple grand over this period, and then she tells you to hit the road, all your generosity and go intentions are vapor.  Sending all the money overseas is not the same thing as giving her all the support and nuturing she is going to need when she arrives, get a grip and don't think all you have to do is send money to prove your undying love and she is yours for life. I want her to want to be with me and not influence her with my generosity, you will get yourself into a lot of trouble if you go down that road.
P.S. I don't send my dog any money either and he's never complained about it.

... in response to Re: read on..., posted by WmGo on Feb 12, 2003

I know you are but what am I?
hahahahaha
come on dude what is up with you conservatives and preemtive strikes.......a violent bunch ain't ya. Ya need need some Jesus son,,,,,,,,and I talkin' the little spanish boy sellin' oranges down the street......see where that takes your mind!
Joe

... in response to Re: Re: read on..., posted by Rando on Feb 12, 2003

.after Bill quits talkin out of his azz, you will get his better side........hahaha
Joe
you must admit, I can be a funny bastard.......I just wish my wife could appreciate it!:)