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Author Topic: Ukraine trip report Day 1  (Read 25109 times)
John F
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« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Why do I get the feeling that all these ..., posted by Griffin on Jan 28, 2003

I can't speak for the other married guys here, but that's the reaon I'm here.  I met so many women there that really deserved much more than life gave them, and I could only marry one!  Helping you guys with my experiences is one way I can help them ....
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Griffin
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« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Why do I get the feeling that all th..., posted by John F on Jan 28, 2003

Sorry.  I couldn't resist.  I share the sentiment you expressed, even though we're both about to get slammed by the pathological "realists" among us.
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UnitedNut
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« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to We all need to move to Utah!, posted by Griffin on Jan 28, 2003

LOL!  Took me a few mins to get the gist behind your note!  Too funny.  I agree, lets all move to Utah!
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ChrisNJ
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« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Trip Photos, posted by Jski on Jan 28, 2003

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Jski
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« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Ukraine trip report Day 1, posted by Jski on Jan 28, 2003

Day Two

Since I had managed some sleep on the flights and at the airport lounge, I felt pretty good getting up at a normal time.  The day was to be nice and in the 40's, which was warmer than the Wichita I left or even Dallas the day I passed through.  This was my first chance to see that breakfast was going to be much different than here at home (then again, most days that just means coffee on the drive into work for me).  Cold sausage, Cereal, Fruit, Cheese, black bread and pourable yogurt would be the offering. It was all good though, but a bit much for me.....I'm assuming I'll be on the compromising end of that eventually :-)

Galina stopped by and wanted to take us to Lavra (sic), the monastery there in Kiev, as it was the day of the Epiphany and there would be many people there.  I got my first taste of the subway and I must say that's one heck of an efficient operation and you can't beat the price!  When we got the the Monastery it was quite crowded with people all bringing back their holy water.  We walked the grounds a bit and took some photos before going to the caverns.  Its a really nice place and worth a visit in Kiev.  Some of the Monks are mummified in the caverns and you can view them through the glass coffins there.  Everyone has a candle and the women must wear a head-covering down there.  The people are packed in close together and I did catch the smell of some burnt hair a few times so I'm thinking the head covering might be a good idea for everyone with all those people so close together and all the candles.

After that we headed over to the war museum with the big statue of a woman on top.  It was getting a bit brisk as the clouds remained and now the wind was coming off the river, but again, the museum was well worth the visit.  I like WWII things as my Father was in WWII and told me some great flight stories growing up.  There are three floors worth of exhibits there and I wished we had time to really spend a half a day there.  I did take some photos of the military equipment outside (something I found ironic as 20 years ago I'm sure I would have been jailed for doing the same).  Inside you have to pay extra to take pictures, but it was only 10H more.  There also a little snack shop in the basement.  Its here that Toma started  to figure out that I drink a lot (A LOT) of coffee :-)  This will come to play later.  I was told that coffee is no good for me and that I must drink tea.

There's a Authentic-type Ukrainian restaurant nearby that Galina had pointed out and we had late lunch there.  The food was quite good and they had some live musicians playing and occasionally strolling about (bear with me as I was bad and didn't remember the names of most restaurants we ate in...sorry).  I convinced her to let us take a taxi back as neither her nor I knew the subways very well in Kiev and I wanted some time to rest before the evening (being lost in the tubes of Kiev wouldn't be the rest I was looking for :-)

Galina picked us up that evening to go to the Opera.  Carmen was playing and she had managed to find us tickets.  What a great place the Kiev Opera house is.  I thought I would stand out being in the same clothes now for three days and those consisting of slacks and a turtle neck, but I found people to be dressed from one extreme to the other there.  Toma was really  dressed up nice.  She has some great taste in clothing.  Our seats were 3rd row main floor and center and at about $6 a piece I was amazed! (The VIP delegation from Vietnam was 4 rows behind us).

We had tried calling looking for my luggage that had yet to be delivered several times and got no answer.  Finally, they answered and said they were closed.  Toma called later and they acknowledged that my luggage had made it, but they didn't feel like delivering it that night and would come out in the morning.  My clothes had taken on a life of there own now as they were starting their fourth day with me.  If it lasted any longer I would have to feed them I was sure.

After the Opera we got a ride home and just talked for a couple hours!  I was feeling better about this as every moment passed!!  

Observations:  Add a day to anything the airport promises.  
              Breakfast will now be a requirement, not an option.
              It looks like coffee will be on the way out to be replaced by tea
              Questions are sometimes followed by "That's impossible, you will...." and finished with the answer that she was really looking for :-)
              I should set up a separate frequent flyer account for my bags as they are now touring Europe on their own.

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Charles
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« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Day two (or "Where the heck are..., posted by Jski on Jan 28, 2003

Great report!.  For those who visit the Lavra monastery in warm weather a word to the wise:  In addition to the women having to cover their heads, men in shorts are required to wear a skirt to cover their knees, so I highly recommend long pants as the monks that run the place take no prisoners - no skirt, no tour.  This fortunately did not happen to me but there were several unhappy fellows having to put on their skirt (as well as leaving a deposit for the return of the skirt!!) before entering.  As a general matter, long pants are customary even in summer unless you're at the beach.
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: The Lavra Monastery in Warm Weather, posted by Charles on Jan 29, 2003

As I mentioned in my trip report, Victoria refused to buy a babushka when we went there... she felt it was a shameless attempt to extort money out of tourists.

But, they let her go in wearing a baseball cap.

So... maybe they would let a man get away with a catcher's shin guards? ;-)

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Gman
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« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Day two (or "Where the heck are..., posted by Jski on Jan 28, 2003

I know what you mean went it comes to breakfast being required.  I skip breakfast at home, but my girl insisted on breakfast daily, her normal routine is yogurt and chocolates and kefir (yuck).  I added variety with toaster pastries i brought with me and I introduced her to grilled cheese sandwiches.

i also was told "American soft drinks eat through metal, Ukrainian soft drinks are better"

good report, thanks for sharing

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Dan
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« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Day two (or "Where the heck are..., posted by Jski on Jan 28, 2003

And is considered to be the finest (and most expensive) authentic Ukrainian restaurant in Ukraine.

I sympathize with your lost luggage problem. It's happened twice to me. First time, it took 4 days for them to finally deliver the bags to my apartment in Kyiv. Second time, it was only 2 days. I now make sure I pack a spare change of clothes in my carry-on.

Sounds like a nice trip.

- Dan

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Richard
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« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to That Restaurant is Called "Tsarske ..., posted by Dan on Jan 28, 2003

I've had luggage lost several times.  (The last time was on my way home from Kiev last May. The person who checked me in in Kiev spoke better English than the person taking my lost baggage claim in Miami.  I geuss English is a foreign lanugage in both places.)

In addition to a change of close I also pack my medications in my carry on luggage. Something to think about if you do take any...

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don1
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« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Ukraine trip report Day 1, posted by Jski on Jan 28, 2003

Thanks for taking the time to write a trip report .

A good trip report and some good news was just what we needed .

Thanks for sharing

Best Wishes

Don

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juio99
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« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Ukraine trip report Day 1, posted by Jski on Jan 28, 2003

Nice story, keep them coming.
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