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Author Topic: Question about custody!  (Read 2481 times)
Dmitry
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« on: May 20, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

Guys,
I am sure someone has had experiences about this and might give a decent advice.
One of my Ukrainian friends (of friends) came to our office for help.
His ex-wife moved to LA with their child about 2 years ago. At that time he signed all proper documents that he did not mind against his ex taking the child to the USA.
Now (2 years after) she wants him to sign some other paper and he is afraid of consequences... he does not speak a word of English and she dictated him the name of the document she needed over the phone. it sounds like "sole (or soul) custody".
Now the question... what is it? Would it be a problem for him in the future if he signs it? Why she wants him to sign this paper?
Any advices are welcome!!!
regards
Dmitry
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Question about custody!, posted by Dmitry on May 20, 2002

Dmitry,

I am not sure how this translates to foreign rights. I can only tell you how it works in America...

When you divorce in America, and there are children, there are essentially three levels of your "rights" with the child.

The one that is most common is "Joint Custody." This means that both parents are considered equal with regards to choosing a child's education, making medical decisions about the child, deciding the child's religion, etc. However, one of the two parents will have "Managerial Rights." This means that they get to determine the most important thing: where the child lives. (Called establihing domicile.) The parent that does not have domicile, gets "visitation" rights to see their child, but the court considers that the child lives with the parent with domicile. (The parent who does not have domicile will also, typically, pay child support to the one who does.) The courts will try to make sure that parent's with joint custody have equal time with a child wherever possible.

The second level is what this woman is asking for. Sometimes, a parent asks for "Sole Custody". This is another level of control. It means that they do not have to consult with the parent about any of the major decisions in their child's life. And, of course, they determine the child's domicile as well. It usually will also limit the other parent's rights to visitation.

The last level of custody is when one parent's rights are "Terminated". This is very extreme and almost never happens. Basically, if a parent's rights are terminated, they are no longer legally considered to be a parent at all. This usually only happens in a case of child abuse. Or, a parent will sometimes willingly relinquish their parental rights. Before someone else could adopt a child, the "birth" parent's rights must be terminated, for instance. This is the most common reason for a parent's rights to be terminated.

Now... this is all American law. I doubt it has much applicability in Ukraine.

If he already signed documents to give her the right to bring the child to America, he has already conceded the first level: She has right to domicile. The only reason I can think that she now wants sole custody is that she wants to have the right to handle any medical emergency that comes up without having to contact him first.

Unless he is planning on coming to America himself, I can't see how he would be hurt by signing this document. (Though, I must state, I am not a lawyer...)

If he were in America, there may be child support issues, but these issues won't matter if he is in Ukraine.

As long as he is not signing a "Parental Termination" form, he still has rights to visit the child.

FWIW

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MNKenr
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Question about custody!, posted by Dmitry on May 20, 2002

I am not a laywer, but it sounds like she wants him to release all claims to the child. More than likely she wants him to sign the papers so her American husband can legally adopt her child. The adoption will give the American husband full responsibility of the child. If the mother dies the American husband will take care of the child. If the Russian father does not give the mother "sole custody" (mother has full responsibility of the child) the American husband can not legally adopt the child.

A friend of mine went through this process. The biological (natural) father must sign the papers and exclaim he has not claim or responsibility to the child. Then the child may be adopted by the step-father.

If your friend signs these papers he will have no more claim to his child. He will also not be required to support or care for the child in any way (now or in the future if the mother dies).

Sole means one or total. It does not mean soul as in ghost or spirit. He is giving her total responsibility.

MNKen

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Question about custody!, posted by MNKenr on May 20, 2002

Sole Custody is not the same as Parental Rights Termination.

I know people with sole custody, and the other parent still has visitation rights... but they are severely limited.

From a child support issue, sole custody does not release the other parent from child support consideration.

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MNKenr
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Nope, posted by MarkInTx on May 20, 2002

So I misunderstand Sole Custody. Good thing I do not practice family law :-)
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Dmitry
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Nope, posted by MNKenr on May 20, 2002

n/t
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