Something for you to read part3

[wsbill]

... in response to An Interesting Commentary Bill . . ., posted by Dan on Apr 2, 2002

But, look when that book was written, early 1990's when independents and freedom of the press were just coming of age.

Now days, they can read from a variety of newspaper and journals or just turn on the TV and can see what is happening around them.

Prior to 1990, before the Walls came down.  Many have said, they were isolated from the rest of the world.

Does your wife talk much about what kind of life she lived in the 1980, 70's or 60's (if she's that old, hi hi).

I'm sure, they were singing to a different tune in those days.

[Dan]

... in response to Re: Yes, Dan, posted by wsbill on Apr 2, 2002

About their lives prior to, and subsequent to, the fall of the Soviet empire. You see, it is one of the more fascinating events of modern times (in my opinion), and I seem to be unable to get my 'fill' of information about those times and events.

Yes, my wife Olya tells me often about her life prior to 1991 - as do her parents and other members of her family. But that is the tip of the iceberg. I have also spoken to people that served as scientists and military officers - as teachers and as health-care providers - some that were children at the time and others that were busy raising their families. I only wish I could have had (or made) the opportunity to travel and visit and see for myself what life was like at that time. Propaganda on both sides was quite thick then, and I did not have the interest until much later. It is my loss.

Having said all that - it still remains that Ukraine (and the entire FSU) has for decades been one of the most highly-educated populaces in the world. Illiteracy is practically non-existent and has been so for quite a long while.

I hardly find any basis whatsover for painting them as backwards - even in the smallesst villages.

- Dan

[wsbill]

... in response to Actually, I've Had MANY Conversations Wi..., posted by Dan on Apr 2, 2002

On the Soviet Union.  No doubt, it would be most interesting.

[wsbill]

... in response to Actually, I've Had MANY Conversations Wi..., posted by Dan on Apr 2, 2002

Government told me or from the TV news...

Glad to see that education paid off at Chernobyl.

[Richard]

... in response to Re:  Hey, I'm just getting my informatio..., posted by wsbill on Apr 3, 2002

Aren't you forgetting about Three Mile Island in Pennslyvania?  We are not better than Chernobyl, just luckier.

[wsbill]

... in response to Re: Re:  Hey, I'm just getting my inform..., posted by Richard on Apr 3, 2002

I'm just pushing Dan's buttons.

I know people in the rural areas of Ukraine or the USA or anywhere are not backwards.  Most folks are very aware of what's going on in the world.  Some folks, don't care and have other interests.

Some if they could would trade in their ox and mule for a AGCO or a John Deere Tractor and get the multiple attachments.  But for now, the Ox and Mule are paid for.

[Richard]

... in response to Such a Book Already Exists - Albeit *Lac..., posted by Dan on Apr 1, 2002

it does make its point.

[Dan]

... in response to Natalya's story maybe fiction, but ..., posted by Richard on Apr 2, 2002

Make a point, that is. ClarieWitch's and Natalya's "points" have the same common foundation - and are equally credible.

- Dan

[tfcrew]

... in response to So Does ClairWitch's Occasional Charade ..., posted by Dan on Apr 2, 2002

An above post by Nat....
"I have a problem"
Then goes on to describe an apparent stranger's problem.
I guess I'll leave a ?
Cause I didn't get it.
I lurk also.....
Karl

[tfcrew]

... in response to Hiding in the thread...., posted by tfcrew on Apr 4, 2002

A less spastic program please.

[tfcrew]

... in response to So Does ClairWitch's Occasional Charade ..., posted by Dan on Apr 2, 2002

An above post by Nat....
"I have a problem"
Then goes on to describe an apparent stranger's problem.
I guess I'll leave a ?
Cause I didn't get it.
I lurk also.....
Karl

[tfcrew]

... in response to Hiding in the thread...., posted by tfcrew on Apr 4, 2002

Nat did not "have a  problem"
"Needed Help"

[tfcrew]

... in response to So Does ClairWitch's Occasional Charade ..., posted by Dan on Apr 2, 2002

An above post by Nat....
"I have a problem"
Then goes on to describe an apparent stranger's problem.
I guess I'll leave a ?
Cause I didn't get it.
I lurk also.....
Karl

[petem]

... in response to Something for you to read part3, posted by Natalya on Apr 1, 2002

I had $ on that game.

[Jeff S]

... in response to Something for you to read part3, posted by Natalya on Apr 1, 2002

While it shows a bit of a characature of both the uncaring, hic American man and the young Russian women totally out of her element, I'm sure the feelings are conveyed quite well. Here's something I posted a while back about this topic:

http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/show.php?asian/archive00052/messages/19227.txt

Keep up the reality posts. Some guys here sound like they need more of them.

- Jeff S.