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Author Topic: Some thoughts about possessiveness and fidelity  (Read 11560 times)
Zink
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« on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

I read a couple of posts below about possessiveness and ladies attitudes about fidelity. We've been through this before and I know why so many people say to meet as many women as possible. I prefer to do it one lady at a time. But I'm thinking of breaking my own rule on this for my next trip. But anyhow on to my point.

I recently asked a friend of mine what she would do if a man came to visit her and she knew he was meeting with many women. This is what she told me.

Если, например, ты приехал ко
  мне, и я узнаю, что ты собираешся встретиться еще с одной-двумя
  женщинами, то я, по настроению, поступлю: а) любой ценой оставлю
  тебя себе(даже если ты мне не понравился) просто потому что
  почувствую здесь своеобразный конкурс, который надо выиграть,  б)
  оставлю тебя другой(даже если ты мне очень понравился) просто потому
  что подумаю что с другой ты будешь более счастлив, чем со мной.

My translation isn't very good, but this is what I got.

If, for example, you have arrived to me, and I shall find out, that you intend to meet one - two women I, on mood, shall act: a) At any cost I shall have you to myself (even if you have not liked me) simply because I shall feel here original competition which should be won, b) I shall leave you to another (even if you have very much liked me) simply because I shall think that with another you will be happier, than with me.


I had one other woman tell me that if other women weren't interested in me why should she be. Some want a man that they can show of and make their friends jealous with, just the same as some guys want a trophy wife. I don't think anybody wants to marry someone they think of as a left over after the best was taken.

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BubbaGump
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Some thoughts about possessiveness and f..., posted by Zink on Feb 6, 2002

I am leaning toward going for a short trip and meeting just one girl rather than several.  On my other trips I had the woman get mad that I met other women and I came away empty handed.  

I know Jack said your chances of success are only 11% if you see one woman but what would that go up to with 2 women I wonder?  I don't really know how to handle the situation well.

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Zink
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to What do you think we should do?, posted by BubbaGump on Feb 6, 2002

I really hate telling people what to do. I like to throw out my ideas and let you decide what's useful.

I went to Russia 3 times to see the same lady. She was the only one that I met to date although I did meet a few others. The others were friends, family and aquaintances of the different people who helped me. My lady and I broke up eventually but the way I look at it, it was pretty close to an ordinary relationship. We fell for each other, had a few magical moments and then slowly grew to realize that we weren't meant for each  other. At least we parted on fairly good terms.

My girfriend didn't want to believe that I went to Russia just for her. She also didn't want to believe that I only wrote to her for a long time. She did get mad with me when she found out that I had written to quite a few other ladies before her. That was the fault of the lady doing our letter translations. I said that I was only writing to her in one of my letters. The interpretor translated it as I had only ever written to her.

I don't know what to do about this either. I'm a very honest  and open guy. I don't like the thought of lying to the ladies and saying I'm only there for her. But I don't think the ladies want to hear that I'm playing the feild while I'm in Russia. I haven't decided what to say yet. I'm still working on finding women to meet when I go.

By Jack's numbers does that mean if I see 10 women I'll have a 110% chance of finding the right one? I don't trust statistics. Too many variables in life to come up with accurate stats on a small test group.

But my theory of life is that a the truth is always best. Lies tend to cause a rot in a relationship. Better the quick pain of an unpleasant truth than the slow degrading of trust that happens when you lie and are caught. I'm hoping that the right lady for me won't leave me because I met other women. Most of the ladies I know understand that there was somebody before her in their partners life. But maybe they'd prefer it if the lady before them didn't leave only an hour ago!

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Natalya
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Some thoughts about possessiveness and f..., posted by Zink on Feb 6, 2002

a) At any cost I shall have you to myself(even if I don't like you).....
b)I shall leave you to another ( even if I like you very much).....
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Zink
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to some corrections to your translation, posted by Natalya on Feb 6, 2002

My Russian is pretty bad. And the internet translators usually don't do much better than I do. My translation was a combination of my own work and the Promt website. I thought it might be inaccurate. But the meaning was still close to what I had thought it was.
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BarryM
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Some thoughts about possessiveness and f..., posted by Zink on Feb 6, 2002

I guess one thing to learn from your post is to not get distracted by one woman when you plan to meet several. My position is to not reveal any sort of information about other plans or dates. It's none of their business and time is short.

-blm

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SteveD
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Good post..., posted by BarryM on Feb 6, 2002

In my opinion absolutely no good can come of admitting you are seeing other women. If they ask that question than just prepare an evasive answer in advance which neither confirms or denies what you are going to be doing. Most won't bother asking such a dumb question anywaY.

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Bobby Orr
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Good post..., posted by BarryM on Feb 6, 2002

Good plan, but easier said than done.
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BarryM
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Good post..., posted by Bobby Orr on Feb 6, 2002

I'm going to church.

-blm

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Zink
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Not a problem for me..., posted by BarryM on Feb 6, 2002

How does going to church help you to keep your life a secret? Or help you to avoid answering a direct question? But maybe SteveD is right that the ladies won't ask anyhow.
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BarryM
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to I'm curious..., posted by Zink on Feb 6, 2002

I just won't say when...Smiley

-blm

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