Safe to say my girl was a scammer

[KenC]

... in response to Re: women wants romantic, not money, posted by terry on Feb 7, 2002

Terry,
You can choose to be paranoid about getting scammed and stay home in fear or trust your own common sense.  The $300 extra Bobby is fearful of spending is really only equal to a couple of dates with an AW.  No one would consider the AW a scammer if things didn't work out either.  Yes, Terry, many guys have their microscopes out and are disecting RW.  Just be yourself, use common sense and you will be just fine.  Best of luck to you.
KenC

[thesearch]

... in response to you're normal, posted by KenC on Feb 7, 2002

With all the crap that can go on sometimes people read into things. It is a fine balance. The more money a person has however, the easier it is to continue down a path that is starting to suggest scam.

[BarryM]

... in response to women wants romantic, not money, posted by Tania on Feb 7, 2002

Too many of them want money... and lots of it.

You don't seem to realize what a big effort it is to travel overseas, find who you think would be a good wife, get all the paperwork done, pay all the fees, the embassy interview, etc. It takes well over a years time and a big expense. Even the trips to just meet the ladies are a huge expense and effort. There are some men who have spent 5 years looking for the right woman. Plus we have to avoid getting scammed at almost every step of the way because too many of the RW/UW are criminals who either want money, a green card, or both.

We have every right to be choosey and reject any woman with whom we don't fully trust or we with whom feel is wrong.

I expect the RW I decide to ask to marry to have the highest of moral character and proper behavior. I will not put up with any misconduct, especially when it comes to money or faithfulness.

-blm

[Tania]

... in response to Not all RW want romance..., posted by BarryM on Feb 7, 2002

I cannot understand why travel and other expences connect with woman's desire of money? Well, you travel here because it is YOUR paranoic idea that here are great amount of beautiful and unselfish Russian women, who will go anywhere with loving man and will give her life for him. It is you who dare to think that you are such knigh in gleam armour. Who cares about cost of this armour? Who cares about cost of ticket? Who cares about 5 years of searching? You can come to Russia and stay in small town, go to  factory or mill. And there will be lot of women around. Why not? No, you play one-actor-show, where are real drama, with bad accidents almost leading to death, but at the next day wonderful recovering, with fire destroing your home and everything you had, and in two months again renovated. Your friend, son, brother etc. write about your love to woman, but at least your wise is calling and say: he is married already on Russian woman, and don't  make delusions. Does anyone recognize himself?

[Jeff]

... in response to Not all RW want romance..., posted by BarryM on Feb 7, 2002

You guys write scary things about UW/RW, sometimes when I talk to them, it makes me feel that I shouldn't do it ( I mean talk to them), some of them  are really  weird thinking....Why would she come here, what? For green card? Does it make her any happier than any normal AW?? What is a green card for them? I don't really get it....Even if she has a cool job, respect, many lovers etc..who would want to spend a lifetime with a mean woman? They stay alone for the rest of their lives anyway. It just doesn't make any sense to come here for just a green card. Or be a citizen...even if you are a citizen, you have to love this country and respect it, not to use it for your mean goals, I don't think people like this win, they stay with nothing, it is just very sad thing that they don't understant it. Some woman aren't satisfy with man they get... well, why to lie a man who thinks you love him, say "no" and search for the true love than. )))
Oksana

[BarryM]

... in response to Re: Not all RW want romance..., posted by Jeff on Feb 7, 2002

Your words and understanding are encouraging. Sometimes we do talk about the negative things too much, but we are venting our frustrations at bad situations. We are worried about our future lives just as UW/RW are and we want more out of life than we currently have. We want to meet the right women for us that won't harm us emotionally or financially and will help us have happy lives and good families.

-blm

[Jeff]

... in response to Thanks, Oksana...., posted by BarryM on Feb 7, 2002

I don't blame you guys!!!:))))

[KenC]

... in response to Not all RW want romance..., posted by BarryM on Feb 7, 2002

Barry,
The "prize" you give to your future wife is YOU not the money and effort you spent on finding her.
KenC

[thesearch]

... in response to Too expensive & difficult? Don't go, posted by KenC on Feb 7, 2002

you are correct but, sometimes when you think you are the prize you are not that at all to her.

[BarryM]

... in response to Too expensive & difficult? Don't go, posted by KenC on Feb 7, 2002

Tania seemed to critisizing us. In her post above, she basically stated that we shouldn't be complaining if we got laid out of the deal. That's a lot of crap.

-blm

[thesearch]

... in response to I realize that..., posted by BarryM on Feb 7, 2002

She is telling you how it is. You may not like it but it came from the horses mouth so believe and now you know why sincere guys have troubles - but also it shows how these women can resent older men trying to romance them if they are not rich.

[Bobby Orr]

... in response to It is not crap, posted by thesearch on Feb 7, 2002

Maybe the men are indeed rich, but they have a brain!

[hockeybrain]

... in response to women wants romantic, not money, posted by Tania on Feb 7, 2002

You just miss the point.  Nobody wants to buy a bride.  Lack of class and respect are totally different matters.

[Jeff]

... in response to Re: women wants romantic, not money, posted by hockeybrain on Feb 7, 2002

I agree with you! Normal AM wants somthing sweet and loyal, and wants to be loved and taken care of. Well, and when he gets someone who is not what he dreamed about....problems if RW had different planes!!!!:)) He-he!!:)))
But sometimes AM doesn't know what he actually wants, it makes problems too!!!!
Oksana

[BarryM]

... in response to I am ready to cry, posted by Tania on Feb 7, 2002

a pretty woman in Russia or Ukraine is just that... Most of the men here are looking for sincere wives to spend our lives with. We discuss issues such as this in order to learn how to achieve success in our endeavor. Success means getting her here and marrying her. Until then, it's a difficult road with many hazards. Most of us are not as rich as you think. It is very expensive here but most of us are above average in money. We don't want to spend our money on a woman who is not sincere. We can find plenty of those type of women here and they cost less if you don't marry them.

A pretty woman in Russian or Ukraine is just that... not real for us until she comes here and marries.

-blm