Tania Tania - Will you marry me?

[thesearch]

Posted prior under the post by Bobby Orr regarding being scammed:

No -- of course I do not mean it. You know that --- but, if I give up on romance and true love - I might look you up since I have more money than is fair - and we can do the wild thing on the Oriental Express followed by a romantic trip up the Nile to see the pyamids. Hey I think I will take you up on the idea of marrying a Russian woman close to my age. I mean if we do it the Russian way I can have my cake and eat it to. I can have my wife take care of the home and I can have you on the side for a mistress. Just kidding here also - but hey it works in Russia because the women do not see anything wrong with it evidently. Hate to tell you about this but American men are less likely to behave this way.

This is what we might hear Tania say as she is talking to one of her girl friends.

I met this American man, he is 19 years older than me. He is a very nice man but I like them younger but I did not let him know. Besides, he isn't even rich. I mean you think the guy should have a lot of money if he thinks he is going to have a chance with me being as old as he is. What is wrong with these guys are they stupid?

Tania's girlfriend (Tgf): So Tania, what are you going to do?

Tania: Well, if he is that stupid he deserves to be taught a lesson.

Tgf: What are you going to do Tania?

Tania: I am going to pretend that I am interested and milk him for as much money as I can. I need to buy some new clothes so that I am more attractive to guys closer to my age or if he is older the ones with a lot, I mean a lot of money.

Tgf: Is this American man trying to take advantage of you? Is he romantic? What are you going to say if he figures out that you are only interested in taking advantage of him?

Tania: No he is actually a nice guy but he is not for me. He is trying to be romantic but, when I look at those bags under his eyes and see his pot belly, I just do not get turned on. I can't help it. If he finds out that I am just trying to take advantage of him I will turn it all around on him and say he is not romantic by being concerned about his money - counting how much he has given me.

Tgf: But Tania, you are not romantic with him - how do you expect him to be such? How do you expect him to not be suspicious? Maybe it is not about the money but just wanting you to love him and him simply figuring out that the money issue is yours not his?

Tania: I do not have to be sincere. I am young and pretty.

Now, I wonder if Tania is even from the FSU as she does not know her Russian men well. I have some good men friends who are Russian. The ones I know who are single go for the young tight body women plain and simple. They are not interested in women their own age and both of these men trade them in for younger women. Evqueni is dating a woman 23 - he is 48. He told me this is the exception that usually at this time in his life he dates women in their mid to late 20's. He spends money on them - it just the cost of a young woman.

Tania is telling us that if you are a nice guy, older than her by more than 15 years she is not interested in you. However, if you are rich and will spend your money on her she will show you a good time as long as the money flows. And she expects you to understand that you have bought her and not complain about the money or count it. And in being bought, you will get the chance to win her heart if you can.

But gentlemen, Tania is correct about some things. She is telling you about many women. They do not want older men plain and simple. If you are really rich and also are a great guy and if you were great looking when you were young and some of that still shows through - you might get a younger woman if you also have the romance down pat.

Tania is telling you how it is. She talks about romance on one hand but can be boughten with money on the other hand. Go figure - that is the way many many women are. Russian women are no different than American women - they are just more honest about it.

[micha1]

... in response to Tania Tania - Will you marry me?, posted by thesearch on Feb 7, 2002

Somehow, I do know that you are right.  But, you must also understand that in each of us, there is a part that want
to love and be love.  Remember the beauty and the beast, fable.
At this stage in my life I do not want to fall in love with a body or a face, I only want to fall in love period.  How does one do fall in love, no one knows.  But we do know at our age the pitfalls and there are many of them.

In french again we do have a saying, it goes like this, the day that you you do fall in love, it is the beginning of
the going down hill.
The best part about love is when you are going up the stairs.
Once upstair, the work start.
So the best part is when you are dreaming about it.
Other wise it is a nice girl, a good restaurant, wonderful wine, good meal, good cheese (that stink),  a roll in the
hay, good head and so long - have a good time dear - while giving her a c-note.  No problem, no worry.
But it is not love.    But I am a little maso on the side.   I do want love, as if I did not have enough wrinkles.

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: Tania Tania - Will you marry me?, posted by micha1 on Feb 7, 2002

I am not sure I know exactly what part of my post or all you think you do not agree with.

First of all I was being facetious in part of it - playing on words so to speak and did not mean everything exactly as it was worded. I see Tania has posted below - have not read what she has to say yet but in retrospect since English is her second language I perhaps should have used a different writing technique - I was just trying to point out to her that she came across as someone who condones women who scam men - she may not really have meant it that way. From here, I will go have a look at how she responded.

[Tania]

... in response to Tania Tania - Will you marry me?, posted by thesearch on Feb 7, 2002

As well as I never take advantage of your money. I am not such kind of person. I am fed up with girls who sell themselves. And fed up with men who want to buy the good cheaper. It is so far from real love and romantic. It is pure commercial. And I am not in this business. I had really great relationship, and there was no money question, there was something really different. But I NEVER would disscuss my intimate problems with world. I believe realtionship is for two: man and woman. I would never forgive my man for sharing our life with social.
But you are right. There is not much difference in nature of Russian man/woman and American, German, Italian..... All people want to have someone special, and receive a lot, and only few want to give. That few are happy. And they don't care about us: poor people who want to take and take and take... I say us, because I am too far from being taking. Wise people say to understand your problem is half way to solve it. So I hope I am not hopeless.

[jj]

... in response to I will never marry you, posted by Tania on Feb 7, 2002

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[thesearch]

... in response to I will never marry you, posted by Tania on Feb 7, 2002

Well Tania,

I am glad my post got you to respond. Your first post sounded as if you condoned scamming women who take advantage of honest intentioned men. You come across totally different with these comments. You actually sound like a nice lady ---- however, I did not understand what you meant by these words. Would you mind explaining this to me

"And they don't care about us: poor people who want to take and take and take... I say us, because I am too far from being taking."

[Tania]

... in response to how about going to the theater then?, posted by thesearch on Feb 7, 2002

I have met maybe only two of them in my life. Men who know how to enjoy life. He can love woman without asking for replay. Like it ounded: I spend so much money and time and she doesn't want to marry me! Isn't it silly? But we all want something back for our effort. It is not right. People who can give not asking awards for this are happy, and don't care about those who straggle because of thinking his/her award is not big enough.

[thesearch]

... in response to I meant happy people, posted by Tania on Feb 8, 2002

I totally understand. You are right - people commonly expect something in return when they give. Actually it is a smart person that does not expect anything but honesty and nothing more. For if a person gives to you without really wanting to give but only doing it out of obligation you really are only given a lie.

For the same reason, I would never try to make a woman love me that did not naturally have that inclination towards me. I see men who keep chasing a woman who is not interested in him. This is stupid. If she does not respond in a way you want in an appropriate amount of time - walk away. But, some people seem to want what they perceive they can not have versus seeking what is best and what they need.

[micha1]

... in response to I will never marry you, posted by Tania on Feb 7, 2002

The Search, you are really in business.  Just e-mail her, you are in like Flint.
Trust me, please, on this one.

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: I will never marry you, posted by micha1 on Feb 7, 2002

You are too funny. However I suppose you do have French in your blood. If so, I understand it is cultural for French men to sense things like this more commonly then the average Joe :}}}

Would that not be a trip for someone to meet a Russian or Ukrainian lady right here on our forum with it culminating in marriage. Not likely - but a funny thought.

[micha1]

... in response to Never say never, posted by thesearch on Feb 7, 2002

I had forgotten this, you are both speaking the same language.  She said "never", you said "not likely".
Two negatives is a plus, where I come from,  come on  Tania be a sport, he is melting as I am writing.

[micha1]

... in response to Never say never, posted by thesearch on Feb 7, 2002

Please do not worry,  you are in like flint.
She is a beautiful woman, she got guts and if she took the time to let you have it.  You are in like Flint.
It is at thirty and more that women are pretty (read my earlier post).  Man I wish I was in your place.
Make the move, man, you have got it made.  You'll both be head over heel in  a short time.
Tania, please do not make it too hard,  be kind with him and invite me to the wedding, ok.