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[Tania]

... in response to Scammers from other side, posted by Jack on Feb 4, 2002

you are unique. It is hard to be offended with you: you are so naively honest trying to say all about your plans, when you was going to met few ladies and even knew percentage of probability of marriage with every one. But I knew men who promiced her fiancee TTTOOO much, and then went to another date while she made him laundry and cooked dinner.
If someone interested in my opinion I think it is awful to count the chemistry. Maybe that's why so many scammers around this issue: usual girl wants romantic relationship and would be scared with such pragmatism. But scammers count great. Remember guys!

[Tania]

... in response to Scammers from other side, posted by Jack on Feb 4, 2002

well, Jack, you are unique. It is hard to be offended with you: you are so naively honest trying to say all about your plans, when you was going to met few ladies and even knew percentage of probability of marriage with every one. But I knew men who promiced her fiancee TTTOOO much, and then went to another date while she made him laundry and cooked dinner.
If someone interested in my opinion I think it is awful to count the chemistry. Maybe that's why so many scammers around this issue: usual girl wants romantic relationship and would be scared with such pragmatism. But scammers count great. Remember guys!

[Jack]

... in response to Re: Scammers from other side, posted by Tania on Feb 6, 2002

Tania,

  There is no doubt that there are un-sincere men involved with looking for a good Russian woman. No matter what you do in life, there will always be the good and bad side of everything. The type of man you described is the type of man that gives all of us a bad name.

  Tania, men like you have described, I sincerely believe (and hope) are in the minority. I have met a few such guys, and I have talked to a few such guys, but percentage wise, these guys have been maybe 5 to 7%. Then Tanya you wil have another group of men who maybe are not so honest with the ladies and the type of life they live in America. I think this percent of men could be some 10 to 12%.

  In total percentage I would hope that 15% or less of American men would fall into these two catagories. And Tania, there is little that can be done to resolve the problem as things are today.

  Now from the man's perspective, we are probably faced with a Russian women scammers rate as high as 33 to 36% overall. And if you consider the percentage of scammers coming from the Internet, I think that figure is close to 60%.

  What is the answer to resolve the problem Tania?  

  Agencies that care to deal with only sincere men and only sincere women, and even at that you will have some falling thru the cracks. Under the current system I am afraid we will not be seeing any major changes anytime soon.

 

[BarryM]

... in response to Scammers from other side, posted by Jack on Feb 6, 2002

Jack, I think there is a higher percentage of insincere men at the bigger tours and agencies than what you experience. You scare off the scumbags. That's one of the reasons you are attacked so much on here. That's why Claire hates you so much.

-blm

[BrianC]

... in response to Scammers from other side, posted by Jack on Feb 4, 2002

Jack,

I think Tania has a point.  We, on this board, tend to be a little self-righteous.  No American man can be a scammer!  Heaven forbid!  No AM would travel to the FSU just for a sex trip.  What about these women who trusted what this guy says.  Are their feelings/wants/needs any less than ours?  I don't think so.

Remember, this is a two-way street.  There are woman scammers and then there are men scammers.  Who is the worst?  I don't know, but it does work both ways.

Still lurking,
BrianC

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Scammers, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 4, 2002

I have to admit, I also had a strong desire to go to Ukraine or Russia and be taken advantage of by some of those scammers.  Scammers are the best aren't they?