Something interesting just happened

[Jack]

... in response to Boy I screwed up !, posted by Mike on Feb 3, 2002

Mike, I think I have a renter for your flat in Moscow, e-mail me quickly,  nunya@ix.netcom.com    

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Something interesting just happened, posted by Jack on Feb 3, 2002

Come on... don't stop there...

He ended up at the apartment, and she knew where he was?

How did that work out for him?

Sounds like she was a partial scammer. Her knowing where he lived couldn't have been good!

What happened next?

[Jack]

... in response to The Rest of the story, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 3, 2002

I suspect she was a scammer but have not talked to him since the night he called from Warsaw. As I understand it they were visiting each other after we dropped them off.

He suspected something prior to there meeting so he has a good idea as to what is going on.

I have seen men get involved with known scammers before. With some of these I figure out later that the guy was just looking for a good time.

A good example of this was a guy from DC flew into Dnepropetrovsk and we meet him at the airport. His girl also met him there at the same time. My Galina thought she looked familiar and indeed she did. She is the Julia from Dnepropertovsk that is on page 4 of my known scammers section.  Galina called me during the day on a Sunday afternoon and she was all excited and told me that our client was with this woman and what were we going to do. I got the guys phone number and called him in his flat at 1am. He assured me he was by himself and I told him that his woman was a known scammer and read two reports to him from two other guys who had also met her, also in Dneprop.

We talked about it for a little while and he said he would figure out how to handle it in the morning.  What did he do? He took her to Yalta for four days and probably xxxxxed her brains out and that was it.

After I looked back at things I realized he must have known she was a scammer, she was on my site for sometime before he left, he had to have seen her, and he never once told us anything about his girl, what her name was or anything. I think he knew she was a scammer and was just looking for a fantasy week.

Most clients stay in contact with me, almost all call after they return back to the states, I never heard from this guy again after our late night phone call.

[jj]

... in response to Re: The Rest of the story, posted by Jack on Feb 3, 2002

Again if you look at Jacks scammers pafge you will see only photos of women.  No information avery little vale..  Check out the other scammer sites there is much more information and bettter service...

[Jack]

... in response to Scammer page is just a gallery of photos..., posted by jj on Feb 4, 2002

Max/jj, but what a gallery of photos, heh?

I don't put up the ugly photos of scammers, no one will remember their photos. And heh, if a guy wants to read about the scammer, he can go to another site. If he wants to see just photos, which guys tend to remember, he can come to my site. But I will suggest this to you Max/jj, if you don't like the layout of my scammers site, why don't you make one to your liking, instead of always talking bad about my scammers site. jj/Max, if you could get the good feeling inside I get almost everyday from some guy in the world who writes to thank you for helping him as he was in the process of being scammed until he saw the scammers photo, then I think you would also create your own scammers site instead of talking bad about one that is already existing.

Hey Max/jj, how are you doing with your pursuit? Have you had any luck with finding a woman yet?

We hear nothing of your trips or the women you meet, why is that? We only hear about a great flat that you can't tell us how to rent and of course we hear your silly rebuttals to everything I write. Why don't you share with us about your trips and the ladies you meet?  How about a photo Max/jj?  Oh, never mind, I remember now, if you show us a photo we will see you were the black Max who left us with the large long distance bill. D@mn, we didn't know those calls to Australlia were so expensive!

jj/Max, you still in Australlia are you?  When are you going back home to Canada? You have been in Australlia a long time now jj/Max!

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: The Rest of the story, posted by Jack on Feb 3, 2002

Julia Reznikova, from Dnepropetrovsk??? You're kidding!

I looked on your page four. Sheesh! SHe's not even a good looking scammer!

I mean, if your going to go to Yalta for four days, pick Julia from Kiev on Page Three. Or better yet, Helen from Odessa on Page 13 ... now THERE'S a lady to take to Yalta...

I mean, if you're going to waste a week's trip... make it memorable...

No accounting for taste, I guess.

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Julia Reznikova, from Dnepropetrovsk??? ..., posted by MarkInTx on Feb 3, 2002

I don't see any of those women you're talking about.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to I'm confused Mark, posted by BubbaGump on Feb 4, 2002

They're on the "known scammers" pages of FirstDream

Um... I was being sarcastic... before the flames start...

[Tania]

... in response to Scammers, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 4, 2002

You guys are silly. Discuss to foam at the mouth if it is possible to have fun with scammers or it is wasting time. Maybe he will remember all his life what a great week he spend with her. What about making list of scammers men, who come to Ukraine/Russia to have fun, scamming por naive girls, who belive in prince of charm from State of plenty, and ready to give all love and tenderness to him? Men who meet one-two girls every day and every day has shower of attention and affection, cosy evening, delicious dinner, soft bed, just to say tommorow: I am not ready to stop on this, maybe next one will be better. How many of you did this???

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Scammers from other side, posted by Tania on Feb 4, 2002

We are joking about going to Russia or Ukraine to meet the scammer women.  

I have taken two trips and focused on a single woman the first trip and 2 women the second trip.  I have had 2 women try to cheat me out of money.  Both of the women trying to cheat me were women I honestly wanted to bring to the USA.  

Too many men go to Ukraine and meet the woman only to have her just walk away within a few hours.  There are a lot dishonest women that make this very difficult for the men.

[Tania]

... in response to You misunderstand, posted by BubbaGump on Feb 4, 2002

I am sure percent of honest and disonest people is the same in State and Ukraine. It is like if you come to hospital you can think like everybody on earth is sick. Men from State often want to have girl that they never even dream about to have in State. You know that Russian women are crazy about foreigners and are ready for anything to come to USA, even for mesalliance. Lot of men know this and offer deal: but it is girl's opinion if this deal is fair, isn't it?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Scammers from other side, posted by Tania on Feb 4, 2002


Anyone who is insincere is a scammer.

Scamming for money.... Scamming for sex... same thing, different coin of the realm.

But, the guys who put up the scammers sites don't worry about other men, because they will not personally be scammed by a man.

I think that the agencies who sig the women up SHOULD keep a "blacklist" of men.

And I'll add one more.. the man who writes and writes, and never goes over.

As for me personally, I've never done a sex tour.

As I said before, my previous post was "tongue in cheek"

[Mike]

... in response to Scammers from other side, posted by Tania on Feb 4, 2002

n/t

[Jack]

... in response to Scammers from other side, posted by Tania on Feb 4, 2002

hummpphh, well, I did Tania.

I did this until I found a woman who I thought was as beautiful on the inside as she was on the outside. I never promised any of these women marriage, although they knew I was looking for a wife, but I did promise each the opportunity to meet. And most the women Tania were also interested in the meeting, as they were also looking to meet a man whose chemistry they thought were a good match for them.

[Tania]

... in response to Scammers from other side, posted by Jack on Feb 4, 2002

you are unique. It is hard to be offended with you: you are so naively honest trying to say all about your plans, when you was going to met few ladies and even knew percentage of probability of marriage with every one. But I knew men who promiced their fiancees TTTOOO much, and then he went to another date while she made him laundry and cooked dinner.
If someone interested in my opinion I think it is awful to count the chemistry. Maybe that's why so many scammers around this issue: usual girl wants romantic relationship and would be scared with such pragmatism. But scammers count great. Remember guys!