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LP
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Bingo!, posted by DE on Nov 13, 2001

....chidlish envy. Do ya really think I'm lame enough to use the word "jet" in that context? If you knew what Tootsie knows you would have understood I was making a choice of availible transportaion. Of course, you don't know what her private email to me was refering to so I suppose
your remark is understandable.

lol...Better stick with the Buick, it's all ya ever gonna have.

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DE
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Another example of...., posted by LP on Nov 13, 2001

pretty lame!  LOL
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ron
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Lol....., posted by LP on Nov 13, 2001

i don't know lp, yoe does make some valid points. he has a  fiiiiine russian wife

whatever you say about yoe, he has succeded and you just talk about how cool you are and you don't need russian women, american women are fine with you and you have plenty of them, sure!

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LP
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Lol....., posted by ron on Nov 13, 2001

....You call yoey a success? lol...OK. Exactly what "valid" points does he make and how would you know they're "valid"?

How "cool" I am? Not my intent, sorry if it comes across that way. I just assume people tell the truth until I find otherwise. I'm well versed in dealing with the envy of others, been doing it all my life. Thats their problem, not mine. Some of us do better in life than others because we're focused, if you or Yoey can't handle that it's not my problem. I'm not about to take any heat for stating the simple facts of my existence and don't blame me if you've not done as well. Lack of confidence in many areas seems to be a common theme among men involved in this little dance.

The facts are that I've not squandered my life and assets on failed marriages and the expense that incuurs, all the while having many years of happiness with some fine mates. This, coupled with a several well paying professions (that require great self confidence and just happen to attract women), has been a good deal for me. If thats "cool", than yeah, I've done OK. So what?

Like I said, if you can't handle that don't blame me, you or Yoey could have done the same. But no, he choose to screw around instead and now has to lie in the bed he made. (And with...nah.) Simple envy is his problem. Like I said, I'm used to it. I'm not here to win a popularity contest or to be the class clown, and my opinions are as valid as anyone's.

You see, Yoey likes to post crap to every thing I post. (just look down below where I didn't respond) He jumps in when the subject has nothing to do with him and uses the most childish comments he can. (Again, look down below. It's great that he claims I do the same.) He wants to get a rise outta me and when it doesn't work he gets bent. I just ignore him because he makes himself look like a fool. Now I could say that one of the crack whores he claims I've been poking is his hag wife, but that would be wrong. It doesn't stop *him* from using such tactics though does it? He does this because, by his own admission, his "mother raised him better than that". (About your mother, yoe.....nah) Even when I ignore him, he keeps at it. Yeah, he's a classy success alright. See the descrepancy? No? Well, maybe you're blind.

I *don't* "need" any R/W, do you? Why would you? Do you depend on another for happiness? Are you the typical loser that can't deal with A/W? Do you think R/W are something "special"? If so, how do you figure?

I'll explain it again. I do not fit the typical profile of most here, thats intuitively obvious to even a loser in life like Yoey. I began this two years ago as a curiousity and have had a good time at it. What I have found is that the vast majority of these women are users and the vast majority of these guys are dying to be used. You clearly measure "success" in a differnt way than I. Unlike 95% here, I'm not on a "mission" to get married so why would I think thats "success"? Use your head, if I was on such a mission why do I restrict my trips to only a few a year?
Seems pretty stupid for a guy who can travel at no cost, eh?. Lack of "success" indeed. In addition, I do not post about whats happening to me in this endeavor, but the people here who email me off board know the true score.

What is wrong with you that you so desperately "need" someone so badly that you risk all on a people who are known to have vast numbers of users among them? Can't you even get "used" at home? I think not and thats the problem, isn't it? Or maybe you think you've already been used at home and think your safe from it over there. If so, you're dumber than a Yoe.

Now, of all the R/W I have dealt with, only one has what I would call a heart of gold but there isn't the chemistry needed to go for it. The other "problem" is that I have more "attention" at home than I need and thats the simply truth. If thats being "cool", than I suggest you get out more and make the effort to get some "attention" yourself.

I stay here because I do glean some information at times and if what I say is taken as bravado, than I'm wasting my time on people who I *assume* have somewhat normal lives, just like mine. Maybe I'm wrong. Whats "cool" to you is simply my normal life. Hey, it would be cool to me if I were a rock star but I'm not. I sure wouldn't beat one up for his/her success in it though.

Cynical? Yeah, a little. That comes from a previous life where I spent four years putting so called "tough" guys like Yoey in jail. I know his kind real well, they are real bad until they come up agaist the law and then they crap their pants. They're the ones who think they're cool but they're simpletons who haven't yet figured out they've ruined their lives. Yep, Yoey is one hell of a success, ain't he? Got himself a history that closed so many doors he has to work like a dog while others make a ton of money in widely respected professions. (Oops, I'm being cool again.) Good old Yoe, he's my hero. I so wish I could be as cool and successful as him. Guess I'll just have to settle for what I have.

In return for the cynicism, I got a load of friends with a bond like no other. Friends who will do almost anything to help a brother, so if yoey thinks I know about him because he admitted it, thats fine with me. Lets just wait a bit and see what happens. Thanks to recent legislation, Yoey's identity is an open book for people with the means. In fact, me thinks I'll prove it to him with a little gift:

I'm never gonna respond to Yoey again, I'll just let him sound off while I screw with him a little. Off course, he'll never equate it with me. lol...Now *thats* "cool".

How's about an example. Lets take Spyke. I could get my a** in a sling for divulging Yoe's identity here, but since ole Spyke was facing 28 counts on a case built up several months ago for pirating software, he won't mind. (Don't panic Sid, it ain't gonna happen because I was only curious as to who you are and the DOJ is busy these days, although the SAIC handling it holds all the cards. It still could go to Justice for review.)

Ya see, ole Sid here (that *is* your real name Spyke isn't it? You'd be one Sid Sp***l** of 204** R******s Street, *****n Nevada correct? Maybe Sid will confirm this, but I somehow doubt it), plays numerous games with his email but thats child's play to the pros. Yoey is even more like a two year old because he thinks he's a bad boy, so his was easy. (This is kinda "cool" also, isn't it?)

Yoey's just your typical loser who screwed his life up and now thinks he salvaged it enough to be "happy". He can't stand others who have done better so he gets a tad bent when I post. Even when I ignore him, he keeps trying. Thats OK, my turn to try and I have better resources. I'll just spank him a little so he knows I'm more "successful" than he is.

So have a nice day Yoey, I won't be talkin at ya again, but you'll be feeling me come next spring. lol...You are such a bad dude, ain't cha? Like all the others before you, you've never learned a thing.

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yoe
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Succeded in what?...., posted by LP on Nov 13, 2001

You know nothing about me......
Do I work hard?
How many hours a week?
How much did I make last year?
How many employees do I have?
How many felonies have I been 'convicted of'
How old am I?
What is my highest level of education?


answers to the questions.
no
10-20
265K including 3 trips to europe, 2 new cars, 1 trip to hawaii and a new house (325K)
21
0
38
MBA MA Philosphy

Did you get all that stud..........if you know so much call me at home tonight----I will be waitin!


I got you going so good you had to get wimpy again.
OK I will be LP for a minute.
"I am so good and everyone else is so bad".
"I am so succesful and everyone is so poor".
"Everyone is jealous of me because I am a stud".

Let me tell you somethin' stud......you are nothing but a contradiction and I do not know how a grown man can actually spit out the rhetoric you do. Everything you say about me is a direct reflection of you. AMAZING
But I still love ya
Joe
oh yea
What is my wife's name------that should be easy

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LP
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to I know you so well my brotha......, posted by yoe on Nov 13, 2001

Ok Yoey, fair enough. You *did* get me going on the last one.

Lets see how childish we can make this. Now, I'm taking you on your word that your last post was truth, so you have to accept mine in return:

Do I work hard?
How many hours a week?
How much did I make last year?
How many employees do I have?
How many felonies have I been 'convicted of'
How old am I?
What is my highest level of education?


No, I sit still and the "office" works hard.
25-30, but only two weeks a month. (That makes 7.5 a week, you're right I do have lots of time). $536K,from multiple sources (although last year was 30% better than average). Trips every 4 weeks (my job, ya know.) 6 personal trips last year, worldwide. House is nearly $1 mil (then again it *is* California. btw, I own it outright) 2nd mountain home, 300 raw acres in Idaho, SUV, Turbo Supra, a Harley and two airplanes. (I won't say jets, they're not.)
0 at one job, 3 at the other.
I have 18 felony convictions. To my credit.
48
BSEE

Since you left it out: *Zero* debt and total liquid assets of 425K.


lol...I don't know how you can live like that. You see, when you go up it's hard to go down, but keep trying. (Not bad for playing catch up, though.)

Now see? lol....Who instigated this piece of work? Now will I get flamed for all the wrong reasons?


"I do not know how a grown man can actually spit out the rhetoric you do."

I agree. But there is only one glaring, obvious explanation, and you can't even see it.

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thesearch
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to lol....., posted by LP on Nov 14, 2001

I work a lot more hours, have a stressful job and make less than either of you. Smiley)))
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yoe
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to got you both beat., posted by thesearch on Nov 14, 2001

n.t
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yoe
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to lol....., posted by LP on Nov 14, 2001

God you must love me.......
if your numbers are on-congrats.....I still am sittin on 300k debt........but we are tryin.....
sweet dreams big daddy.........until we meet again
xoxoxoxoxoxo
Joe
never talk to yoey again ........yeah right Wink
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LP
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to gotcha.........Smiley, posted by yoe on Nov 14, 2001

......I'm still gonna send ya that token of appreciation, just so you know how much I luv ya.
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yoe
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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to You misunderstand....., posted by LP on Nov 14, 2001

n.t
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Ken W
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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to An American man in Russia, posted by Tootsie on Nov 13, 2001

Obviously, ANY person, male or female can be tempted under the right circumstances.

There is an old saying here: If you want to know what your wife will be like in 20 years, look at your mother-in-law. Kinda simplistic, but you can know a lot about a man by knowing about the house he grew up in. American men are perhaps less prone to cheat because it was something that was either not done or not known about their own father. Europeans are somewhat less hung up on sex, so it makes a strange kind of sense that they would have more affairs.

Here is an easy defense - a wife should get to know her husband's friends well. If anyone is going to rat them out about having an affair, his friends will. For instance, I like my best friends wife - a lot. She's almost like a sister to me. I told him one night that if I ever caught him cheating on her, I'd beat him within an inch of his life, and he knew I was serious..Smiley

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CornellGuy
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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to An American man in Russia, posted by Tootsie on Nov 13, 2001

Tootsie,
   If he's really in love with her as you say he is, he won't succumb to temptation and start chasing other women.  From watching and talking to him, do you think he's a good man with high morals?  If you think so, then I would say that a decent American man would stick by his wife and best friend!!
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Wayne
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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: An American man in Russia, posted by CornellGuy on Nov 13, 2001

This is a really fun thread for a change.  Aren't we usually talking about what the RW is going to do once she gets here, and realizes all her options?

It goes both ways.  To many choices and options can corrupt the strongest.

Wayne

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Dan
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to An American man in Russia, posted by Tootsie on Nov 13, 2001

Or a Russian man in America . . .

Or an American woman in Russsia . . .

They all ask the same basic question - and that is: How well does one adapt to a new country and it's culture?

You ask a question pertaining to whether or not a person will succumb to temptations offered in a new culture. In the particular case you present, it has significant moral overtones.

I think the same question might be asked, though admittedly with less moral implication, about a RW coming to live in America and adjusting to the "conspicuous consumption" values that seem true of many (not ALL) Americans. The difference is the temptation is not sexual, but instead it is material.

For that matter, your question could also be asked about RW living in America. While in Russia, according to your premise, those RW did not have as many options for lovers as they may have in America. Will they succumb to the temptation here?

You see Tootsie - the question you pose is simply too broad. No-one can possibly answer it with any degree of certainty. Individuals have too much variability of character.

- Dan

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