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Author Topic: Every Cali agency has strengths & weakness  (Read 12318 times)
teoblas
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« on: September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
It is amazing to me to see so many scattered data points on this board regarding agencies in Cali.  Arguing about it is like arguing about politics or religion.  

For a new guy that wants to come to Cali and does not know where to start or what to look for, I offer IMHO my perception of where each agency shines the brightest (listed below in alphabetical order).  

Also, connections and spending money matters in Latin America.  A person properly connected or spending more than the minimum at one agency will likely get great service and even first shots at a hot new prespect at that agency but not at any other agency where he is not connected or generous with his money.  Also, guess what?  Posting nice things about an agency on Planet-Love can make sure your connection with that agency stays strong....

No matter which source you select it will have some drawbacks - it is unavoidable....you are in Latin America - remember?  See the bottom of the post for more info on that.

Also the girls, clinents, agency owners and agency help come in an assortment more varied than the selection of beverages in a US supermarket.  I have seen and heard more wild stuff in one year here than in 10 or 20 years in the USA.  I have laughed louder and harder (both at and with men and women) here than anywhere else in the world.  The only thing I think I have never encountered in this environment is a gay guy (bisexual possibly, but not gay).

Here goes:

All Colombian Girls - Great assortment of cute young girls

Cali Charm - Best centrally located lodging (and best bed and breakfast) and very supportive of your visiting other agencies

Cali V.I.P. - Lodging in a mansion for a great price.  Also best parties for your dollar (includes food, drinks, music, women, mansion, etc).  

Latin American Models - Very very cute young girls that almost always show up for requested dates/answer your e-mails.

Latin Best / Hearts of Cali - Greatest probability of finding a girl that anybody could bring home to their mom.

Latin Best - Great assortment of cute young girls

Latin Internet - Well organized, and very attentive and helpful staff

Latin Women Forever - Cute girls in bikinis oriented to selling contact info.  If you buy contact info that is no good, you get a replacement of your choice at no additional cost.

South of the Border - Huge selection of girls from Cali and Latin America oriented to selling contact info (e-mail addresses).  If you buy contact info that is no good, you get a replacement of your choice at no additional cost.

Walter Mora - guts for hire to help you meet some unknown and randomly selected girl in a mall.

Ramon - He can hook you up most any night of the week (with the catch of the day).  The most enjoyable person to hang out with.

Pete E - he is not an agency (i.e. you can have a girl stay over in your room) and has great lodging and lots of extras for a great price.

Mail Order Husbands - These are the foreign guys you have seen post on Planet-Love and will meet face to face for the first time on your flight to Cali and at your selected Cali agency.  On your second trip to Cali you will meet 5 or 10 additional guys that are equally fascinating.  Move to Cali and you graduate from being a weird dude to being an expert weird dude.  

Of course these things are subject to change and there are a few other agencies that I do not know enough about to comment on....

If I were to list weaknesses of agencies they would include things such as which agency lies the most, which agency lies the best, worst organized, which has the most anoying clients, has the highest percentage of least recomendable girls, agency owner dating the most girls from their agency, agency that ignores the client the most after they got your money, worst lodging, worst agencies for padding their sites with girls that will never show up, which agencies pay some of their ladies to shower you with attention, etc, etc, etc..  

None of the agencies are perfect, they all have blemishes.  But then again none of the girls that you will meet down here are perfect either.  It is a shame since the single guy that is reading this post IS perfect!

Have fun

Teo Blas
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www.teoblas.com
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mudd
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Every Cali agency has strengths &  w..., posted by teoblas on Sep 20, 2005

your better off going to medellin than to cali
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OkieMan
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Every Cali agency has strengths &..., posted by mudd on Sep 20, 2005

Hey Mudd,

So, does that mean that you are having better results yourself in Medellin?  I am always interested in hearing from other posters about their experiences.  I have seen your posts on this board many times; but I guess I don't know what is going on with you.  Please share with us about what is going on with you, if you are using any agencies, any special latinas in your life, etc.

                                 OkieMan
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mudd
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Every Cali agency has strengths ..., posted by OkieMan on Sep 20, 2005

Well, I don’t post much about myself, unless somebody asks, I have met some guys here from the board, in different cities of Colombian and they didn’t know I was “mudd”

Medellin is a nice city, girls are nice, not as jaded as Cali. Let’s face it, when you got a city like Cali, where agencies have been since the beginning, and you have Medellin, where agencies have only been for a short time, you’re going to have girls in Medellin who are not scamming men for money, visa’s or presents, which is the case with girls from Cali.  Not all the girls from Cali are bad, and I am sure you can find a good girl there, but it’s going to take a lot of work and luck, and maybe some help from a friend there.

Cali girls don’t have the best reputation, and a lot that I have met seem to have a “backup plan” or an “agenda” just in case they go to the US, and they get bored, don’t like the guy anymore ect, not a good way to start a marriage.

Somebody posted a while ago about going to a concert with a secretary of an agency in Cali, and she was pointing out some girls in the agency, who were engaged with gringos, and they were out with their Colombian befriends, that is typical for a Cali girl in my opinion. Always leaving your options open.

 My friend who used to work at All Colombian Girls used to tell me about some of the girls in the agency, and what they were doing, leading men on for money, presents, having sex with their old Colombian boyfriends while engaged to a gringo, so I don’t have high hopes for Cali, as far as finding  wife material.  Some times, it was the fault of the men, trying to be somebody they were not, or trying to impress the girl with money, but a good girl would have rejected the presents, and I have seen some girls do such that.

As for me, im picky, I admit it, and I am in no hurry, so I’ll take my time until I find the “right “one. I’m only 37, so im in no big rush, and eventually, I know ill met her some day. I did met a nice girl from Medellin, but she is so busy with work and school, she doesn’t have much free time, so I will be patient for a while and see what develops.

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OkieMan
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Every Cali agency has streng..., posted by mudd on Sep 20, 2005

Mudd,


Thanks for answering my questions.  So, you are 37?  Well, you are certainly younger than I am.  Do I understand that you have not been married before either?  It is fascinating to me to visit with guys in your position.  I did not marry the first time at a really young age either; but I was younger than you(26).  I have 3 grown sons, and a step-daughter from my second marriage.  We are all close, and I think it is really wierd to find myself at age 52 to have to hunt for a wife again.  But, I also don't want to live alone for the rest of my life!  I have been divorced for the second time for almost 7 years.  I just could not face trying to get into another relationship with another american woman.  So, here I am-- chasing latinas!  I have been searching for about 2 1/2 to 3 years, and so far no luck.  But, I have only been able to travel to Cali twice.  The next trip, I am hoping to either go to Medellin or Bogota; or at least approach Cali in a much different way.  Right now, I am not sure.  Naturally, the best way would be to travel to all the major cities in Colombia, but I don't have that kind of money or time.  Maybe something will develop in the future so that I could do that.  But, for now, I am still into the search mode.  Take care.

                              OkieMan
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caslug
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Every Cali agency has streng..., posted by mudd on Sep 20, 2005

In my past trips spent 1 mo in Medellin, and 3 weeks in Cali and 2 weeks in BOG.  Cali would rank last on my list, but NOT because of girls.  I did use LWC once, my first 4 days in COL, but since then I haven't use agencies, just meet them when i go about town or internet before i arrive.  I found internet much better quality and once my spanish improve, meeting them on the street(clubs/bars/etc.,) became much easier.    

Interesting, i was having lunch a Karen's Pizza off of Avienda Sexta w/ my amiga(met her on internet) in Aug, and there was two gringos having a double date.  Automatically my amiga said those girls must be from the agency.  But her tone was negative when she mention marriage agency.  So maybe locals dont think much of agency girls or gringos using agency.  I think the internet sites(amigos, match, etc.,) are much better than agencies, IMO.  Because you're meeting girls that aren't neccessarily LOOKING for gringos.  

If I was looking for a wife or GF I would just join amigos, match, cybercupidos, etc., write to 20-30 girls(you'll get between 25-50% response rate) for each city I wanted to visit.  By the time you visit, you'll have lined up 5 to 8 girls(or more) that will meet you.  And that's not incl ones you'll meet on the street(require basic spanish).  My response rate for internet is about 20%, but i dont mention i want wife, relationship, or GF, just friends to learn the culture, langauge, etc.,  I think if I was writing that I wanted to meet a girl for relationship or GF, my response rate would be lot higher.

Another example, I'm travelling to Cali for 5 wks next month, so i just sent 20 email last week.  So far I got 4 response and counting, over next couple of weeks, i'll probably get couple more response.  So by the time I arrive in Cali, i'll probably have 3 or 4 gals i can meet, since i'm down there for 5 weeks, i'll probably meet couple more.
I ONLY been learning spanish for 1 yr.
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Cali James
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: i second mudd observatio..., posted by caslug on Sep 20, 2005

[This message has been edited by Cali James]

"Automatically my amiga said those girls must be from the agency. But her tone was negative when she mention marriage agency. So maybe locals dont think much of agency girls or gringos using agency."

Your friend sounds like a snob.  Here's the scene, she's sitting there at Karen's with an out of town gringo (who she barely knows) who is in Colombia looking for a novia or wife.  She sees some other Calenas with a gringo at Karen's also, most likely doing the same thing she is doing, yet she makes a point of calling them "agency" girls.  The implication being that an agency girl is somehow less a woman than someone who meets foreigners over the internet as apperantly she has done.  Give me a break, this is as a distinction without a difference.  At least half of the agency girls I knew had at one time or another gone the email correspondence route too.  Were they better catches when they were emailing guys instead of meeting them in person at an agency?
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caslug
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to i second mudd observation.., posted by Cali James on Sep 21, 2005

CJ, i suspect that agency get a bad rap because girls in agency are LOOKING FOR FOREIGN GUYS to MARRY.  While the majority of gals on internet dating sites are looking for BF(marriage is possiblity, but BF first) AND they are not looking for foreigners.  If a foreigner writes to them cool, but they have no preferences.  

Personally, i dont see problem w/ agency, it's not for me, but i serves a function.
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Cali James
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: i second mudd observation.., posted by caslug on Sep 21, 2005

Maybe but I doubt it.  The girls in the agencies are looking for boyfriends first also.  I had 4 Calena novias I met through agencies, I didn't have 4 wives.  Also, a woman on a site like match.com is being written to by foreigners not locals. If a Calena signs up on this site, she knows it's gringos and Europeans who are going to be writing her not Colombianos.
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caslug
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to i second mudd observation.., posted by Cali James on Sep 21, 2005

most regular internet dating sites(cybercupidos, match, amigos, etc.,) are primarily for local latin guys.  THere's TONS of guys fr local countries on the sites.  WHen i talk about match, i'm talking about match latin america, not match in USA.  And there's LOTS of guys fr COL, Peru, Mexico, Argentina, etc., on that one.  Heck Match has one just for Mexico, and Brazil too.
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Kiltboy1
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to i second mudd observation.., posted by Cali James on Sep 21, 2005

CJ

I got to disagree with you on this one. if you look at most of the girls "FRIENDS NETWORK", a good majority of the guys that are writing the girls are other latinos, not colombians, but from argentina, chile, equador. There are gringos too, but i think that most of the girls i have talked to think mostly other latinos will write them due to a gringos lack of spanish and if a gringo does write her, wow, what an effort this guy makes. She geats a mix of nationalities though writing her.
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utopiacowboy
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to i second mudd observation.., posted by Cali James on Sep 21, 2005

You make some very good points and I agree with you. Nevertheless, there is a tendency on the part of the women, especially in Medellin, to look down their noses at the agency women. As though putting your profile on match or amigos was much different than putting it on an agency site. I don't really see the difference myself but they do.
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Pete E
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: i second mudd observation.., posted by utopiacowboy on Sep 21, 2005

There is more of a stigma about belonging to an agency in Medellin,thats a problem for people trying to get girls to join there.
I guess just getting on line,which so many perople do,seems lessor to them.A Matrimonial AGENCY?Thgere is a stigma to overcome.Much more accepted in Cali.
AND,in Cartagena its tough,because there are so many hookers that if a girl is seen with a forign guy it is presumed she is a hooker.

Pete
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OkieMan
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Yup, posted by Pete E on Sep 21, 2005

Pete,

I have never been to Cartegena.  What experience do you have there?  So, if I understand what you said, there is a higher percentage of prostitution in Cartegena than in Cali or Medellin or Bogota?  If so, why is that?  Does the same thing apply to BAQ?  At any rate, it is fascinating for me to read these ideas that you and others are saying, as far as the girls perception of joining an agency vs meeting a gringo on line on amigos or match.com.  I have not gone that route yet, but I have looked at those sites.  I will have to look further into that.  I don't understand where the girls are coming from either, but I am glad to know a little more into how they think. Now, if I could just get into a mind reading class! ha

                             OkieMan
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Pete E
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Yup, posted by OkieMan on Sep 22, 2005

Cartagena is totally different,because it is a TOURIST destination.Only San Anres and Santa Marta would be SOMEWHAT similar.
So tourist,equal lots more prostitutes,particularly because so many European Tourists.So,if its very likely a girl with a foreign guy is a prostitute,people start presuming that and you have a much worse stigma going than normal.
And it means no meters on Cabs,and lots of other little games to seperate you from your money.Rip the tourist.
Plus,different areas,different physical types,the coastal girls tend to be CONSIDERED less attractive.
Not a good place to meet a girl,a good place to take one.Except,sometimes,you might meet a girl on vacation from Bogota or something like that.
Forget it basically for meeting them,Go with the odds.In  order.Cali,Bogota,Barranquilla, Medellin.Thats based on numbers.Lots of guy like Medellin.I do.But not real good odds I don't think.I am sure others will despute.
We will see how Jesse does.
The other place that you might consider is Peru.The women have a good reputation.And there are numbers.

Pete
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