A comment on all this forget agencies,meet women at the Universiy ect.Thread.
I have no problem with that.Try it.If it works tell us.It sounds like a GREAT IDEA.
But in the 6 plus years following these boards,and you guys know I spend LOTS of time here and have on other boards, and the almost 6 years coming here,including living here 18 months,I have NEVER EVER heard a SINGLE STORY of anyone ever meeting a girl he later dated in a Univesrsity or even a mall.I don't doubt it has happpened,but we hear no real stories and lots of theories.
I do know 3 guys I can think of and probably will remember a few more who met girls in bars and restaurants.Heat comes to mind and Calipro.Heat lived here for YEARS and speaks almost perfect spanish.Calipro has probably been here 50 times over 10 years.
Calipro has a great angle.He sits in a bar on sexta and tips the door guys and tells them if they see a pretty girl to tell her a gringo would like to buy her a drink.He is happy with the results but I would argue his catches here are probably WORSE wife material than you find at an agency.Thats OK,he is not looking for a wife.
Another friend of mine,who speaks medium spanish met a nice proffesional girl in a small coffe shop near where I live.
Thats all I can remember now.
So,while you are trying,OR JUST TALKING ABOUT these maybe good but in my opinion LOW PROBABILTY for MOST guys tactics,don't diss the agencies.
In my opinion we would not be talking about this on this forum right now except for agencies.This forum would not even be here.And MOST of us would be  ignorant about the women situation in Colombia.
Agency women can be good bad or in between.There are no guranteees of success whatever angle you go.But you will meet lots of women motivated to meet you.What you do with them is your own risk.Time together and even some luck help,as well as language,I never denied that even if I am not very good at spanish still.
For most guys with limited time the agencies are the best thing that ever happened in my opinion.
Disagree if you like.How about with some REAL STORIES AND NOT JUST THEORY.
THEORY WITHOUT APPLICATION = MIND F--K!

Pete

... in response to TALKING  A  GOOD  GAME, posted by Pete E on Jun 13, 2005

Ive gotten a few numbers from University girls a few times.   But I did not have a real interest in them I was testing the theory.   It works but one doesnt always know their motives.  There are a lot of gals that have NO interest in leaving Colombia. I would suspect many plan on starting careers in their home country.

... in response to TALKING  A  GOOD  GAME, posted by Pete E on Jun 13, 2005

I doubt anyone will ever “diss” an agency here  again.  The potential “trolls” have been sufficiently intimidated and are now aware that any man who has a problem with an agency is either a loser with female problems or one of those unreasonably demanding clients.  In contrast, the agency owners are always honest, hardworking, and doing their very best.    

... in response to and..., posted by Jamie on Jun 13, 2005

yea, like post pics of all the ho's...jajaja. But i think we will need to move the post to the other forum or as Hoda recently put it - make a "inter-planetary posting"

... in response to Re: Re: TALKING  A  GOOD  GAME, posted by papi on Jun 13, 2005

is just around the corner from CSH Colombian Sweet Hearts.

... in response to TALKING  A  GOOD  GAME, posted by Pete E on Jun 13, 2005

Pete,

You are obviously aware of my situation.  At this point, I still don't know how it will turn out.  But, having said that, I would like to add that old quote (possibly Shakespeare) : "Tis better to have loved and lost, then to never have loved at all".  Now, that does not describe a perfect system, but it does describe life!-- at least life for most of us.  I have been married and divorced, and it is both joyful and very painful.  I have raised 3 sons, part of that time as a single father.  I also helped to raise a step-daugther.  The times I shared with my wives and children; the memories I have are more precious to me than all the gold in the world!  Even though I am now on some type of a journey, in search of the right latina;  I would choose that over never trying, or never having been married at all!   Life is a gamble.  I don't like it, but that is the way it is.  I have many relatives and friends who have been happily married for many years.  My parents have been married for well over 50 years.  My best friend and his wife have been married for over 30 years, and they got married when they were both 18!  I wish I knew the answer or knew the secret-- the "magic formula"; but I don't.  So, to Anthony or others who might be reading this board, and have never been in a committed relationship; then I would warn them to not be so quick to judge others if you are not willing to "jump in" yourself.   It's easy to offer advice when you have no risk yourself.  Just my two cents.

                          OkieMan