Learn The D??M Spanish

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Cali James on May 26, 2005

I'd have to agree with you that women are women all over the world. If I let generalizations rule my life I never would have started communicating with my wife - after all, look at the reputation that Colombia has. My wife and I try to avoid these kinds of generalizations and relate to one another as individuals.

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Cali James on May 26, 2005

James

I do not want to get into a flame and i respect that you are married to a calena, and proudly so, but if you talk to colombians from other cities, both men and women, they will roll there eyes and just shake there heads and tell you that CALI IS THE BLACK EYE OF COLOMBIA

Ask colombian men and they will tell you, YOU WANT A WIFE, GO TO MEDELLIN, YOU WANT A MISTRESS, GO TO CALI, ask some people from other parts, it really is there view of cali due to the drug money and really a desire to take the easy way out at all costs.

Yes, there are wonderful people in cali, hard workers and respectable, but for the most part, they have a terrible reputation from there own countrymen. I am only telling you what i hear in my travels to other parts.

I only tell what i hear

KB

[Heat]

... in response to Re: Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 26, 2005

Whole city for your rotten apple.  Use your head dude

[Hoda]

... in response to Re: Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 26, 2005


in terms of a flame war. What you're hearing 'bout calenas is bullshit. I can give you personal horror stories about the so-called "respectable" people from the cities you've mentioned....

But I'm not as narrow minded to brand an entire city!

[Ekas]

... in response to Re: Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 26, 2005

"YOU WANT A WIFE, GO TO MEDELLIN, YOU WANT A MISTRESS, GO TO CALI"  
I have heard the same line KB. Maybe we have travelled in the same circles in the past.
"CALI IS THE BLACK EYE OF COLOMBIA"
Could not have said it any better. It really is.
Thankfully Colombia has a lot more to offer than Cali and the intelligent man knows this. Good for you going forward with women from other parts of the country and best of luck to you in your pursuit KB.

[Cali James]

... in response to Re: Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 26, 2005

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I'm not surprised they'd roll their eyes as the people from the three major cities will always have a put down for the other two.  There's a bit of a competition between the cities that reminds me of how us in Northern California frequently enjoy snide remarks about our neighbors in Southern California.  Calenos do the same but truthfully I have never attributed much to these sort of things. Maybe you and Ekas do.

Regarding your remark about mistresses, I can assure you that the men in Medellin have plenty of mistresses too and trust me they're not importing them from Cali. lol  Having mistresses seems to be universal in Colombia.  You brought up drug money as if to suggest that the drug money has adversely influenced the morals of Calenos.  Well if that's the case, I could say the same of Medellin.  Pablo Escobar is a hero to many in Medellin, should I conclude from this that the women of Medellin make lessor wives?

[Ekas]

... in response to Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Cali James on May 26, 2005

The Paisas are much better women than the Calenas. You are married to a Calena so I do not think you are an impartial observer. You want to defend the Calenas by all means go at it. Like I said the guy that loves Cali is perfect for Cali.
I only only used Medellin as an example, the Bogota women and Barranquilla women are also much better women.
Anyways I do not wish to get into a flame war with you, you are happy with your Calena, so good for you.
I only chipped in with my take on KB Cali observations, and as I stated, I could not agree with him more.

[Cali James]

... in response to Re: Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Ekas on May 26, 2005

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We all have our biases and preferences and I suspect you have yours too.  But instead of stating your preference and leaving it at that, you put down all the women of Cali in a very suspect generalization.

Anyway, I'm not looking to flame, I just think your statement should at least be challenged. To this point, you've given no evidence why Cali would be different than the other major cities in Colombia. Now if we're just talking about agency subculture, there very well may be a higher incidence of insincere women in the agencies of Cali as apposed to the other cities, but that's not because Calenas in general are any worse.  It's because gringos who like to party go to Cali by and large.  The gringos are the ones attracting the less desirable women to the agencies, throwing money at them and so forth.  

But if you step back from the very narrow world of the agencies and look at the women from the cities in general.  I don't think you'll find Bogotenas much different than costenas or Calenas in their basic values.  I think a person could make a case for rural vs. city in terms of values but I doubt the large cities have much difference.

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to Re: Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Ekas on May 26, 2005

Finaly someone WHO GETS IT !!

KB

[beenthere]

... in response to Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 25, 2005

Of course, I definitely agree about learning the spanish...and I like your approach regarding meeting women over the internet.  It is a great approach that has worked very well for me also...BUT on the other hand, many of the women that one meets on the internet can be just as dangerous as the agency women (and the "notorious" Cali girls).  Many of these internet women are corresponding with many other men while they are corresponding with you, and many are latin men.  It, like the agency scene can be a dangerous game, so just be careful...
But it can be very rewarding at the same time...I know that many men are jaded with the Cali scene, but I believe there are many sincere women in Cali, and in the Cali agencies...
Like the agencies, look for the red flags with these internet women...hopefully your spanish will help in this area...
meanwhile good luck in your search!!

[Sam Club]

... in response to Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 25, 2005

KB - Thanks to CaliJames I now know the story behind the post.  Bro you sound jilted and still hurt!  Check yourself.

[Pete E]

... in response to Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 25, 2005

KB,
I have  been meaning to contact you,I was wondering how it was going.Sounds like its not working there but must have been to a certain extent to last this long this time.
There is alot of truth in what you say in general,but again you state it to extremes,as if there is not one good woman in Cali or at an agency.There are alot of women who would never go to an agency that might be a good catch,so its probably a good idea to widen your search.And Cali probably has more than its share of user women looking for a free ride.But there are lots of good ones in my opinion,even at the agencies.
Cali James,who posted below sure got one.Several other guys I could mention also.
And,so far,none of your internet amigas have worked out,right?I know you have had ones before you thought were the one,then some how they were not as immagined.
Actually there is nothing wrong with your approach.I might even admit for a guy who speaks spanish its probably a better way to go.
But its not the only way,and Cali and agencies,for all their risks can produce a winner also.
Sounds like you won't be coming to Cali,but then again you might like when your notions about Barranquilla didn't pan out.Somehow I think you will be back here,and might even wind up with another Calena.Its not the only game,just the biggest one going with the most choices.
Good luck,I really do hope whatever your approch it works for you.There is a woman out there somewhere who will be your next relationship.Who knows where she is right now.So keep on keeping on.

Pete

[papi]

... in response to Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 25, 2005

Hey Wingman:

I love the part about having met "beautiful educated workers that pay all there own bills and actually know what a newspaper and world events are." I once asked a lady in MDE a few months ago if she knew who was the President of the US - her answer: Bill Clinton. I figure if I know who Uribe is - she ought to know who is the Pres of the US is for g..ds sake!

[Cali James]

... in response to Learn The D??M  Spanish , posted by Kiltboy1 on May 25, 2005

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deleted my post

[Kiltboy1]

... in response to If you make poor choices, spanish doesn'..., posted by Cali James on May 25, 2005

Sorry to bust your bubble James

I have no feelings at all for my wife except as friends.

Since she returned she has been a very sincere
woman,not like before.

It is me that has nbo feelings, me that is pushing her out  and me that made the decision based on we have nothing in common.

If i had known spanish(remeber the gist of the original post)  i would have been able to determine the many things we did not have in common and make a differnt choice, or no choice at all. All i went through really prepared me for the real special women i am encountering  becuase we can reall communicate

Again,GIST OF THE ORIGINAL POST