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Author Topic: Immigration: REAL ID is now law (Long)  (Read 10693 times)
Gary Bala
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« on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

[This message has been edited by Gary Bala]

The political winds are not blowing in favor of
immigrants at this time.


1. WHAT IS REAL ID?

The REAL ID Act, mostly driven by "political" post 9-11
security concern because some of the hijackers were
using fake state driver's licenses, was just passed by Congress
and signed by the President (as part of the Supplemental Appropriation
Bill for the Iraq War and Tsunami Relief). This law imposes federal
standards on state driver's licenses and effectively limits immigrant rights.

SEE: Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense,
the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief Act of 2005,
Pub. L. 109-13.

This law allows only certain types of state driver's licenses
to used at the "federal level", such as to enter a federal building,
board a federally-regulated commercial plane, or open
an account with a federally-regulated bank (i.e. only those
that show valid immigration status.)

Non-immigrant visa holders (such as the spouse whom you
brought here under K-3 visa) or people with adjustment of
status petitions pending (such as the fiancee whom you married
under K-1 visa) can only get a temporary state driver's license
to the end of authorized stay or up to one year.

This law also severely restricts judicial review of immigrant
cases involving removal orders and in some cases detention orders.
This means practically no rights of habeas corpus, mandamus
and other court reviews in these cases.

Those of you anti-government critics who opine that Uncle Sam is
sitting on his hands while "illegals" stroll in with a free ride, the new
law gets tougher. New ground surveillance border enforcement
technology is mandated, and money authorizations are approved for
U.S. Border Patrol, as necessary, for detection and apprehension
for fiscal years 2006 to 2011 (subject to Congressional review of
Border Patrol's full report.) At least 500 new Border Patrol Agents
and almost 2,000 beds for detainees are immediately authorized, far
more than were called for in President Bush's budget.

The law also provides for the construction of a border fence between
Tijuana, Mexico and Southern California.

(By the way, one of my clients right now is a U.S. Border Patrol agent
with a fiancee in Colombia, who works on the "Arizona Border
Initiative" and who tells me that things have gotten a lot tougher for
the "stroll-ins" lately. Apprehensions up 50% from last year at this time.)

Here is a review of the new law from AILA
(American Immigration Lawyers Assn.), which
opposed the law and feels it is a step backwards
for immigrants:
http://www.aila.org/fileViewer.aspx?docID=18433

For the full text of the new law:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:6:./temp/~c109Gddp9q::

For a One-Hour Audio Program with excellent discussion
of this law by proponents and opponents, see this audio file:
"The Diane Rehm Show" (05/09/05):
http://www.wamu.org/audio/dr/05/05/r1050509.ram


2. HOW WILL ALL THIS AFFECT MY FIANCEE OR BRIDE?

Possible ways once the new law is phased in:
1.K-1 fiancees and K-3 spouses, and those who have adjustment
of status petitions pending, may now only be able to get a temporary
state driver's license (with immigration status marked on the document)
to the end of authorized stay or up to one year.
2. K-1 fiancees and K-3 spouses may not be able to enter a federal
immigration building for their adjustment interview or fingerprints,
board an federally-regulated airline flight, or open an account with
a federally-regulated bank with only a state driver's license,
if it is not marked with her immigration status.
3. K-1 fiancees who decide not to marry, and overstay their visa,
and choose to live with family or friends or on their own, will have
even less rights for any judicial review or habeas corpus to fight
removal or deportation.
4. Attempted "stroll-ins" will have a harder time at the border.


3. WHAT'S NEXT?

I believe that Congress, the Administration and the public are
now ready for major immigration reform this session of Congress.
The Administration is expected to push their "guest worker" proposal
later this year and, of the proposals now pending, the Kennedy-McCain
bill, "The Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act of 2005" and
its sister version in the House, will most likely pick up steam. I believe
that more likely than not the public may ultimately see some combination
of the Bush proposal and the Kennedy-McCain bill mentioned above
passed into law.

Hope this information is helpful.
Regards.
GB

PS#1: Important forms revision: USCIS just revised
the I-485 Adjustment of Status and I-765 Employment
Authorization forms. See USCIS website at www.uscis.gov

PS#2: We are working on an all-new interactive
Immigration website, geared specially for Latin America
and hopefully on the cutting-edge. Please look for it;
it's coming soon. www.VISA-Attorney.com

PS#3: I will be in Colombia from June 09 to 30, first visiting
Barranquilla, then Cali. My Colombia Cell: 315-416-2746

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thundernco
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Immigration: REAL ID is now law (Long), posted by Gary Bala on May 12, 2005

Thanks for the great info Gary -TNC
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Ray
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Immigration: REAL ID is now law (Long), posted by Gary Bala on May 12, 2005

Hi Gary,

Thanks for the info.

First, I think it is about time that the government started taking this ILLEGAL immigration situation seriously. Hallelujah! But as far as I am concerned, this is only the first step in the right direction.

In addition to the real threat of terrorists taking advantage of our system, the crackdown on state driver’s licenses is obviously in response to states like California where the liberal legislators want to give ILLEGAL immigrants driver’s licenses and all kinds of other privileges of citizens and LEGAL residents. Letting millions of people thumb their noses at our laws and disrespect our borders, and then giving them all the benefits of our society is insanity and the American people are sick and tired of it.

As for your “HOW WILL ALL THIS AFFECT MY FIANCEE OR BRIDE?” points, I see this kind of stuff as just more cheap scare tactics by AILA and other ILLEGAL immigration advocates. To imply that K-1 fiancées and K-3 spouses may not be able to enter a federal immigration building for their adjustment interview or fingerprints is just pure nonsense as far as I’m concerned. And those K-1 holders who decide not to marry and stay here ILLEGALLY should be sent home in accordance with our laws and the terms of their visa. Perhaps visa processing times for LEGAL immigrants will actually improve if the CIS doesn’t have to spend as much time on the ILLEGALS who are here to take advantage of our system.

It is really quite obvious to me why AILA is in favor of ILLEGAL immigration. Because of the lucrative business it brings to many of their members who specialize in assisting those who broke the law. I guess they will just have to find a new line of work (LOL). I am certainly in favor of immigration if it is done LEGALLY in compliance with our laws. But those who have no respect for our laws don’t belong here IMO.

Note: The reason that I emphasized the words “LEGAL” and “ILLEGAL” was in response to your obvious neglect to use the terms to distinguish between those fine immigrants who followed our laws and came here legally and those illegal aliens who chose to disrespect our laws and come here anyway. When you lawyers use terms like “immigrants” and “immigrant rights”, why is it that you don’t distinguish between the two???

Just my $.02,

Ray

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doombug
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to An Opposing Viewpoint, posted by Ray on May 12, 2005

It's ok for los Mexicanos to feel justified in denying Guatemalans access north, but what a wicked bunch are we  who favor denying licenses to their brethren law-breakers here.

Thankfully, the global insanity of the politics of race will expire for me when I'm dead and gone in another 30 years or so.  And I'll leave behind no progeny to witness the continued stupidity of such games.


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valuedcustomer
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to An Opposing Viewpoint, posted by Ray on May 12, 2005

I would like to say a few things about this.

First, it appears that the federal government is usurping the traditional state’s role in forming its own requirements for the driver’s license.  The driver’s license, which is a state document is now being hijacked by Homeland Security.  One might be tempted to say that this is unconstitutional as a violation of state’s rights, except that the Supreme Court hasn’t left much in the way of state’s rights left.

Second, it is going to create a bureaucratic nightmare, not only for immigrants but for current US citizens.  I read one article that said you may need four types of identification to get a license and make two separate trips to the DMV.  According to the articles on the Internet, the States are opposing this for this reason.

Third, there are malignant forces that have taken control of our federal government that are using the fear of terrorism as a pretext to take away our fundamental freedoms... and this is just the beginning of a long chain of increased surveillance, intimidation, and erosion of basic rights and will not stop at immigrants.  You are next.  

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MarkNJ
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: An Opposing Viewpoint, posted by valuedcustomer on May 12, 2005

We implimented a "6 points of verification" for our drivers licenses(New Jersey) about two years ago... It was painless...  Everyone was paranoid about having to have all of this "proof"... I actually thought it was a good idea with all of the bogus drivers licenses going around.
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Ray
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: An Opposing Viewpoint, posted by valuedcustomer on May 12, 2005

“Malignant forces”?  ROFLMAO! I think the only “malignant forces” you need to worry about are the fear-mongers who are telling you that you will need 4 types of ID and multiple trips to the DMV to get a license :-)

Here in California, it is and has been DMV policy to require proof of being in the country legally before you could get a California driver’s license. So, this bill will not change the status quo, but only stop those idiot leftist politicians in Sacramento who want a new law to give a license to any fool who walks into the DMV. Hallelujah!

Could you please list the “fundamental freedoms” that this bill will take away from YOU? I wasn’t aware that some guy crawling through a hole in the border fence had any “fundamental freedom” that guaranteed him a driver’s license in the USA.

Homeland Security is not hijacking anything. YOUR congressional representatives passed the law, not some bureaucrat at Homeland Security. I think perhaps that you and many others have forgotten that this country is at war. Have you ever considered the possibility that Homeland Security may be the only thing between you and some stinking terrorist with a bomb?

As far as the federal government usurping the states’ role in forming local driver’s license policies, I think Gary did clearly point out that any states can opt out of this requirement if they wish to. If your state wants to give away driver’s licenses to any illegal alien or terrorist who walks through the door, this bill will not stop it from doing so. It’s just that your state’s license won’t be worth the paper it is printed on for federal ID purposes (thank God!).

And once more, this bill is NOT aimed at “immigrants”, but rather at ILLEGAL ALIENS and TERRORISTS, unless of course you consider terrorists as immigrants (LOL).

Ray

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Red Clay
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: An Opposing Viewpoint, posted by valuedcustomer on May 12, 2005

Speaking of bureaucratic nightmares, can you imagine what a "guest worker" program would do to the work load at CIS, assuming they are the agency that would process those petitions? 8-10 million illegals submitting petitions pratically overnight to an already overworked, understaffed, apathetic mess of an agency. I'm sure that any pending legal immigrant spouse/fiancee petition would be put on-hold (as if it's not already) while the politically-correct "guest worker" application is trumpeted as the answer to our illegal immigration problem, thus it must be put into practice ASAP, to hell with the US citizens and their foreign spouses/fiancees visas and petitions.
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Gary Bala
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to An Opposing Viewpoint, posted by Ray on May 12, 2005

Thanks for your opposing viewpoint, Ray.

This is one political area, "illegal" immigration, where you and I
will have to agree to disagree.

Just two points as, hopefully, food for thought to anyone reading.

There is no lawyer at AILA, myself included, who has made a "lucrative
fortune" from "illegal" immigrants. These are people struggling to pay
for food and shelter, much less able to pay an attorney's fee. The cold fact
is that family immigration attorneys, as opposed to business immigration
attorneys and attorneys in most other specialties, are not known
for their "lucrative fortunes."

AILA can speak for itself, but to my knowledge neither AILA or me
has ever advocated "illegals" violating immigration regulations, anymore
than the Bush Administration is advocating "illegal" immigration by
proposing their "guest worker" program for undocumented aliens,
or Sens. Kennedy and McCain are proponents of "illegal" immigration
by their bill proposal for undocumented aliens.

I encourage people to study and think about the policy reasons
and equitable considerations, as well as economic and practical
arguments, in support of these proposals, which I do favor.

I myself have repeatedly urged readers here to think twice about
trying to bring their fiancees or brides into the U.S. "illegally", as you say,
i.e. by any other means than under immigration regulations. Then again,
we lawyers don't want to be accused of "scare tactics" either Smiley, so we will
have to leave that to the media who has done that job of documenting
and video-ing the plight of those "illegals"...

Regards.

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Ray
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: An Opposing Viewpoint, posted by Gary Bala on May 12, 2005

Gary,

Actually, I didn’t say "lucrative fortune". I think I said “lucrative business”. There may not be any immigration attorneys in Philly making a living off of illegal aliens, but it is big here in SoCal. And those “…people struggling to pay for food and shelter, much less able to pay an attorney's fee” may just surprise you. They do come up with big bucks to pay attorney fees and immigration scam artists and they also are able to pay $300-500 or more for a smuggler to get them into the US. Maybe you should relocate here to San Diego where the business is much better…LOL!

What I meant when I said that AILA was in favor of illegal immigration, was that they always seem to oppose any new proposals designed to curb the flow of illegals. Why AILA would be concerned with a bunch of lawbreakers getting driver’s licenses and other public benefits is beyond my comprehension. They broke the law to come here and I would expect a law-abiding attorney to tell them to go back home and do it legally in accordance with our laws. What’s wrong with that? I think CIS is overwhelmed mostly because of the number of cases of illegals attempting to find away around the intent of the law. I would rather see their valuable time spent processing petitions from American citizens and legal resident. An officer of the court doesn’t have to agree with a law to enforce it, does he?

But, like you said, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one… :-)

Ray

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Gary Bala
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: An Opposing Viewpoint, posted by Ray on May 13, 2005

Thanks again Ray.

Well, if the "illegals" are such a "big buck" enterprise in the San Diego
area, and can offer such a "lucrative business", then I suppose
they are also powerful enough that they can lobby Congress
and the "powers-that-be" to change any new anti-"illegal" immigrant
federal laws in their favor, LOL

AILA "always seems to oppose any new laws to curb 'illegal'
immigration". Actually, they have issued a statement strongly
supporting the Kennedy-McCain bill, which includes some
pretty tough measures on the immigration enforcement side.

http://www.aila.org/fileViewer.aspx?docID=18531

http://www.aila.org/fileViewer.aspx?docID=18540

But then again if AILA lawyers and Uncle Sam sat back and let all the "illegals"
in scott-free (as some think they have done thus far), they are accused of being
lazy and incompent and lawbreaker-accomplices, and perhaps should be locked
in their rooms until they see the light. On the other hand, if AILA lawyers,
Uncle Sam and USCIS spend limited time, money and energy addressing
the issue of undocumented alien and worker cases and how to deal
once-and-for-all with society's "illegals", their case processing for US citizens
and residents gets uncontrollably backed up, they are overwelmed and thus
lazy and incompetent and perhaps should be locked in their rooms until they
get caught up on their cases.

You're right, we will have to agree to disagree on this one Smiley

G.

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Ray
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: An Opposing Viewpoint, posted by Gary Bala on May 13, 2005

[This message has been edited by Ray]

Why does AILA support Kennedy-McCain? Because deep down it's just another stupid amnesty bill that will let another 10,000,000 illegals stay here and encourage even more to sneak across the border.

AILA seems to support anything that favors illegal aliens and rewards them for breaking our laws.

Ray

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valuedcustomer
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Immigration: REAL ID is now law (Long), posted by Gary Bala on May 12, 2005

[This message has been edited by valuedcustomer]

My wife has her driving permit but hasn't taken the driving exam yet.  Does this mean she will have trouble getting her license, or is she already in?  Should she hurry up and get her license?

When is the effective date of this law?

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Gary Bala
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Immigration: REAL ID is now law (Lon..., posted by valuedcustomer on May 12, 2005

Common questions:
1. What is the effective date of the new law?
2. Do I have to apply for a new "REAL ID"  state driver's license now
to enter a federal building, etc.?
3. Should a new driver applicant "hurry-up" and get their state driver
license now? Are they "grandfathered-in"?

Answer:
There will be a "phase in" period to the new law, it appears up
to 2008 in some cases. The states actually have an option to "opt-out"
of the federal standards for their state driver's licenses, in which
case they lose certain federal funds and you and your fiancee or bride
will need to use other id such as U.S. Passport (in your case) or
foreign passport and U.S. visa or green card (in her case) to enter a
federal building, open a federally-regulated bank account, board a
federally-regulated airline flight, etc.

As a practical matter, people will face the issue of getting a new
state driver's license (which complies with the new federal standards
if your state "opts-in") at the time of their license renewal. New driver
applicants will face the issue under an application for new state driver license.
Everyone should be guided by their state motor vehicle department or
agency's latest information and updates.

Some states are complaining that this new law is just another "unfunded
federal mandate", and are already gearing up to mount legal challenges
to the new law because it may cost them millions they don't have (one
estimate $125+ million) to eventually re-issue state driver's licenses
and perhaps even birth certificates to meet the new federal standards.

The courts may ultimately have to decide the validity of the new law.

In the meantime, your own state motor vehicle offices are your best
source of current information on the status of your state's compliance
with the new federal law.

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Cali MD
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Immigration: REAL ID is now law (Long), posted by Gary Bala on May 12, 2005

Thanks for the info Gary!

Anyone in need of an immigration attorney should contact Gary, I highly recommend him!


CaliMD

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