good thread on Russian Board

[mar33]

"Let's talk about something un-contraversial" by Jack. Jack is an agency owner who has some good advice.

[Calipro]

... in response to good thread on Russian Board, posted by mar33 on Jan 19, 2004

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But, I bet if you think it is a good post, it must have something to do with women being insincere or scammers.

When are you going to get over your generally poor opinion of women and their motives.

Even I have to admitt that most of the sneeky, under handed things that have been done to me in my life have been done by women.

I think that when two guys don't see things eye to eye they tend to be more open about it. And if push comes to shove they can always take it outside. Women don't have this opinion so I think they can justify the back stabbing things they do much easier.

Well that is the way I rationalize it. You find your own way. But the bottom line is you should get over what ever it is that some women did to you to make you distrust them so. Life is to short.

I'll tell you what I tell all the people that tell me to watch out for foreign women that want to marry a gringo and that is: If they (the foreign women) can do something bad to me that hasn't already been done to me by an american women, I'll shake their hand as I kick their @$$ out the door.

[mar33]

... in response to I haven't read it yet !!, posted by Calipro on Jan 19, 2004

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Well,
    I guess people should really listen to advice from you since you know so much.
   Married 3x by 40. 2nd ex-wife has a porn website and left you for a plastic surgeon. 3rd wife had a boyfriend after you had just married her.  Now new girlfriend steals your money when you are in the shower.
     I certaily would rather be a bit negative but smart. Rather than be naive. You are the perfect example of what not to do.
  Besides, I would rather not have to give most of the money I earned (through using my head and not being naive) to anyone who is using me,or has not contributed to our financial success.

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: I haven't read it yet !!, posted by mar33 on Jan 19, 2004

What are are you talking about: "I would rather not have to give most of the money I earned (through using my head and not being naive) to anyone who is using me"

Let it out mar33. Go ahead! Who did you give your money to and is that why you are so bitter?

Here let me start. I regret not letting my first caleña ex-wife start her nude web site while we were married so I could get half the profit. HeHeHe!

I guess that counts as "not contributing to our financial success." But, she never took a thing from me. She knew better. Lets see the 20,000 pesos my sticky fingered girlfriend took well thats a none issue (it's not even 10 bucks).

OK It's your turn. Go ahead and tell us, how you got to be so bitter and distrustful of women.

[mar33]

... in response to And no regrets!, posted by Calipro on Jan 20, 2004

Bitter, no. careful yes.
 I have never been bitter or vindictive in a relationship. I do try to have a positive outlook when they end though. No matter what happens, I have learned through them. I am a  bit leary with women or people in general.   People earn my trust. It is not easily given.
  Not because anything has happened to me in life, but because I feel being precautious has helped me out. God forbid, I could have been married to the wrong girl by now,with kids and miserable because I ignored red flags.
   There are many people who read this board and do not post. many have little experience with women and really believe the agency hype. I pointed out a post made by an agency owner who was willing to be honest and give a realistic opinion.
   Last I checked, this was a forum for men who were looking to marry foreign women. many of these men are not like you with time or money to spare. Some may have ex-wife ,kids, child support, or just a lot to lose.
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[Calipro]

... in response to Re: And no regrets!, posted by mar33 on Jan 20, 2004

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You don't seem very happy to me. Just judging from your posts and the things you like to talk about.

As for the guys that don't have a lot of time or money they are at a disadvantage because they will really never get a chance to really know the women they are about to marry. But, I have seen guys do it. I call them one trip wonders. They go down one time. Meet someone that fits the bill and apply for a fiancee visa if they find one that will go for the 90 test drive.

Who was it that said "you roll the dice and you take your chances".

[mar33]

... in response to I know I have said before but......, posted by Calipro on Jan 20, 2004

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Calipro,
   You seem to equate  caution with unhappiness. In fact, it is because I have used caution in my life I have avoided mistakes could have made me unhappy.
   Fact is, happiness is very important to me. So much so, when I finally chose the person I wanted to spend my life with,one of the qualifications was she be a happy soul. I wanted a woman who'se eyes light up when she smiles. But just because my fiance is happy does not make her a person who is not cautious.She is far from naive.
   In fact, I admire girls like Karina?(Beenthere's ex) who had been at an agency(LE) for a couple of years, but just recently got engaged. She was cautious and picky. Understanding not all gringos are the greatest. In the long run she will probably have a good happy marriage because she was willing to weed out all the ones that were not for her, by aknowledging to herself what she wanted and needed in a husband and not settling.
   As for the one trip wonders, of course they happen. But a man either has to be really lucky to find a good girl , or truly know how to weed out the good from the bad very quickly. There are way too many women out there for a man to spend his time with a woman after he sees red flags. G7(the new poster) is a prime example of a man who does not know how to weed them out quickly and is willing to waste his time with someone who exhibits bad behavior.
    If my posts sound negative to you, so be it. We definately have diffrent personalities and some people preffer to wing it, while others preffer to have as much knowledge as possible before proceeding. Noones way is right or wrong.

[greg]

... in response to Re: I know I have said before but......, posted by mar33 on Jan 20, 2004

I agree with your Posts. Keep on Preaching Brother :O)

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: I know I have said before but......, posted by mar33 on Jan 20, 2004

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Well, that's probably a good thing, seeing how you sympathize with garster7 and all. I really don't think I could stomach another story like garster7's.

I can't imagine what you mean by "G7(the new poster) is a prime example of a man who does not know how to weed them out quickly". This guy needs professional help. Nothing that he is going to get off of this board is going to help him.

Anybody that is willing to marry a women (in a bad situation) that doesn't even want a kiss from him in hopes that he will some how get lucky with her is one sick dog. Make no mistake about it. The woman is the victim ;not him. The freak is probably still writing her letters and stalking her. The bad behavior was his!