... in response to Re: The state of affairs Manizales/Cali, posted by Craig on Dec 10, 2005[This message has been edited by Cali James]
"CJ when it comes to women… I like what I like. If I wanted to date an average looking women I could stay here in the states no need to travel to Colombia. The truth is I never had a problem dating the top 3% it's just I know that your asking for trouble if you pick the wrong one and apparently it's happened to me a few times but truthfully I only was rejected one time and this girl I was told had 3 guys in the wings."
Craig I respect your opinion also but just as you disagree with me, I also do with you. The 97% you're referring to aren't "average looking women", many of them are beauties and depending upon how old you are, they're most likely 10, 15 or possibly 20 years younger than any woman who'd even come close to us in the United States. My guess is that the 3% percent given a few years, won't look much different than a lot of the 97% who in many cases are not less attractive just a few years older. Age is the great equalizer, you only have to look at the mamas of many of the beauties to understand this. You're 3% percent woman, whoever she ends up being, will with time end up not much different from the others. Will you still find her attractive? I don't think it's arrogant to hold out for the absolutely most attractive woman, the 3% as you call it. I think all of us who've travelled to Colombia have done this to some extent. I do think however that there's a danger in what we do, focusing in on looks first and foremost, we may be overlooking things that are eternal for things that are just fleeting.
"I disagree with you 100% more choices do corrupt the women in the agencies. Nothing wrong meeting different men...but agency women tend to date a few at a time never telling the others about each other man."
I don't see anything wrong with a women dating multiple guys at the same time. I assume that when you go to Colombia to meet women you're there to meet more than one. My expectation has always been that prior to a relationship becoming exclusive, both parties are free to pursue other interests. I wouldn't expect a women to tell me who she's met or has dated, it's not really my business. Now once a relationship becomes exclusive, yes, that's the time for her or him to stop meeting others. Do some gals continue to do so, undoubtedly just as many gringos do also. Now a person who does this lacks character in my opinion but most likely the lack of character has existed long before the gringo came to town. In otherwords, he or she didn't become corrupt just because they had more choices, they were corrupt before. The problem is, as visitors in a foreign land, we don't often see the behavior of these girls on a day to day basis. So I disagree with your idea that more choices corrupts. I think more choices just makes people more choosey. Think back 5 or 6 years ago prior to you travelling to Latin America, remember the gringas who you were pursuing romantically, now compare them to what you're pursuing today. Aren't you a lot more choosey in the looks department than you were before? I certainly was. When I returned to the States I never seriously thought about gringas again. In Colombia my choices expanded greatly and I became much more choosey, hopefully I didn't become corrupt.
"If you’re telling me Cali women don't party and that's not truthful then I just set on the train between Elvis and Bigfoot. Come on CJ they are world renowned for their life styles of course there are exceptitions but Cali women party...and hard."
I'm not saying that Cali women don't go dancing but I think in many cases this impression that Calenas are big partiers is exaggerated. My wife's group of amigas from Santiago de Cali for instance, they're attractive young women but they didn't go dancing every weekend. As far as partying, maybe we just run with different crowds, none of the women I ever dated were that big of partiers. That's not to say there aren't foofa's out there who are just looking to have fun but often times these are just young girls in their early twenties. Do you remember your early twenties? Anyway, there's plenty of dancing and partying going on in Medellin too.
"Yes and the people of Medellin due think they are superior, more educated, better looking, and better wife material. Now I’m not agreeing but they due think that way."
Well your words confirm my impression. I think it's great to have pride in your place of birth but it's foolish to do so while putting down others or excluding others. Medellin is undoubtedly a great place but it's a large city that has the same kind problems all the other cities do.
"It is what it is to me… I've found that women in general in Colombia who have had less contact with gringos and who live away from Cali are better marriage material and those 3% are there for they guy willing to get away from the city of Cali."
Consider this, if gringos really are a corrupting influence and that less gringo contact means better marriage material, what will become of the 3% woman you eventually marry who has had little gringo contact. Once she arrives in the land of gringos, will she be corrupted by them or will you be tempted to keep her isolated? If I really believed that gringos corrupt as you do, I'd be nervous every time my wife left the house. An attractive Colombiana will receive a lot of advances in the United States from men much closer to her own age. Guys better find women with character above all else or they'll be in for a surprise.
"But I do respect your thoughts CJ though I don't agree with much of it."
I respect you to Craig....
James
