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Author Topic: Don't Blame Bush for Katrina (news article)  (Read 6324 times)
CelticUrge
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« on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

[This message has been edited by CelticUrge]

Subject: Article on who's to blame--a discussion we haven't seen on the mass media-- (previous line from a friend who forwarded article to me). I lost some of the bold highlighting of text in copying this article and posting it. The text from New Orleans city documents (near end of article) has been changed to guotes ("...") by me. As I posted several days ago, the proverbial s**t is going to be hitting the fan regarding Katrina for months. Much political posturing and possibly even some assistance to the people affected. IMO, there is plenty of blame to go around, starting with those that could leave and choose not to do so, the local officials, the President not being in front of media and in the area immediately, even for promise of assistance, and everyone who uses this disaster to get their own stupid mug in front of a camera. They should all be more focused on assisting rather than assigning blame. For you guys living in Colombia, how is the news portrayed in Colombian media? Is it different than in the U.S.? Is their thinking different than our own? Did we reveive fuel/oil from Chavez yet or was that offer politely turned down?

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Don't Blame Bush for Katrina
Christopher Ruddy
Monday, Sept. 5, 2005
George Bush and the federal government are not to blame for the disaster we have witnessed in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

In fact, the primary responsibility for the disaster response lies with New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco and other local officials.

Yet leading Democrats and their allies in the major media are clearly using this disaster for political purposes and ignoring one obvious fact.

This fact – which needs to be repeated and remembered – is that in our country, state and local governments have primary responsibility in dealing with local disasters.

The founding fathers devised a federal system of government – one that has served us remarkably well through great disasters that have befallen America over more than two centuries.

But if we believe the major TV networks, George Bush, FEMA and the Republicans in Congress are all to blame for the current nightmare.

Let's remember that FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, was created only in 1979. It was formed to coordinate and focus federal response to major disasters – to "assist" local and state governments.

Common sense suggests that local and state governments are best able to prepare and plan for local disasters.

Is a Washington bureaucrat better suited to prepare for an earthquake in San Francisco, a hurricane in Florida, or a terrorist act in New York?

After the Sept. 11 attacks against the World Trade Center, no one suggested that the Bush administration should have been responsible for New York's disaster response or that federal agents should have been involved in the rescue of those trapped in the buildings.

Last year, four major hurricanes slammed into Florida. Governor Jeb Bush led the disaster response and did a remarkable job, with nothing happening like what we have seen in New Orleans.

The primary response in disasters has always come from local communities and state governments.

First responders and the manpower to deal with emergencies come from local communities: police, fire and medical. Under our federal system, these local departments answer to local authorities, not those in Washington. These first responders are not even under federal control, nor do they have to follow federal orders.

In addition to local responders, every state in the Union has a National Guard.

State National Guards answer first to the governor of each state, not to the president. The National Guard exists not to defend one state from an invasion by another state, but primarily for emergencies like the one we have witnessed in New Orleans and in other areas impacted by Katrina. (See: http://www.arng.army.mil/about_us/organization/command_structure.asp)


Tim Russert and the Blame Game

The media would have you believe that this disaster was worsened by a slow response from President Bush and his administration, though the primary responsibility for disaster response has always been with local and state governments.

It is true that federal response was not as fast as it could have been. The president himself has acknowledged that fact.

But the press has focused on the first 48 hours of federal response, not uttering a word about the fact that New Orleans had 48 hours of warning that a major Category 4 or 5 would make landfall near the city, yet local officials apparently did little to prepare.

Obviously, Gov. Blanco did not effectively deploy her state's National Guard.

And New Orleans' city leaders did almost nothing to evacuate the portion of the population with no transportation. In failing to follow their own evacuation plan, these officials did little to pre-position food, water and personnel to deal with the aftermath.

I was surprised Sunday to watch Tim Russert, on his show "Meet the Press," tear into Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff. During his encounter with Chertoff, Russert did not suggest once that local government had any role in dealing with the disaster. Russert also asked for Chertoff's resignation.

It wasn't until after the first 29 minutes of his show – 29 minutes – that Russert raised the question of local responsibility. And when he did so with Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard, he did so in a passing way. Broussard brushed off his question with a non-answer.

Broussard began his interview claiming that the nation had "abandoned" New Orleans.

That is nonsense and a lie.

Broussard, who was never identified by "Meet the Press" as a Democrat, spent much of his time attacking the Bush administration, as has Democratic New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin.

Broussard then ended his performance as he collapsed in tears with a demand: "For God's sake, just shut up and send us somebody!"

His tears didn't wash with me. My sympathies lie with the tens of thousands of people who have suffered or died because local officials like Broussard, Mayor Nagin and Governor Kathleen Blanco, also a Democrat, failed monumentally at their jobs.

As former New Orleans Mayor Marc Morial told Russert, the disaster in New Orleans was "foreseeable."

In fact, New Orleans has long known that such a disaster could take place if a major hurricane hit the city.

The municipality even prepared its own "City of New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan."

The plan makes it evident that New Orleans knew that evacuation of the civilian population was the primary responsibility of the city – not the federal government.

The city plan acknowledges its responsibility in the document:

"As established by the City of New Orleans Charter, the government has jurisdiction and responsibility in disaster response. City government shall coordinate its efforts through the Office of Emergency Preparedness."

The city document also makes clear that decisions involving a proper and orderly evacuation lie with the governor, mayor and local authorities. Nowhere is the president or federal government even mentioned:

"The authority to order the evacuation of residents threatened by an approaching hurricane is conferred to the Governor by Louisiana Statute. The Governor is granted the power to direct and compel the evacuation of all or part of the population from a stricken or threatened area within the State, if he deems this action necessary for the preservation of life or other disaster mitigation, response or recovery. The same power to order an evacuation conferred upon the Governor is also delegated to each political subdivision of the State by Executive Order. This authority empowers the chief elected official of New Orleans, the Mayor of New Orleans, to order the evacuation of the parish residents threatened by an approaching hurricane."

It is clear the city also recognized that it would need to move large portions of its population, and it would need to prepare for such an eventuality:

"The City of New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas. Those evacuated will be directed to temporary sheltering and feeding facilities as needed. When specific routes of progress are required, evacuees will be directed to those routes. Special arrangements will be made to evacuate persons unable to transport themselves or who require specific life saving assistance. Additional personnel will be recruited to assist in evacuation procedures as needed. ..."

"Evacuation procedures for small scale and localized evacuations are conducted per the SOPs of the New Orleans Fire Department and the New Orleans Police Department. However, due to the sheer size and number of persons to be evacuated, should a major tropical weather system or other catastrophic event threaten or impact the area, specifically directed long range planning and coordination of resources and responsibilities efforts must be undertaken." [You can read New Orleans' Emergency Plan for hurricanes at its Web site: http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26]

The city's plan also specifically called for the use of city-owned buses and school buses to evacuate the population. These were apparently never deployed, though the Parish of Plaquemines just south of the city evacuated its population using school buses.

The plan, written well before Katrina was even a teardrop in God's eye, was obviously never heeded or implemented by local leaders.

But why should the New Orleans mayor and Governor Blanco take responsibility when they can blame George Bush and the Republicans in Washington?

With congressional elections fast approaching, Democrats who are out of power in every branch of the federal government know they need to change the tide quickly.

They have apparently seized on the Katrina disaster to harm the president politically.

Criticism of the federal government's response is fair and warranted. But putting full responsibility for this disaster on the Bush administration is way over the top.

Primary responsibility for this disaster remains with local officials like Nagin and Blanco, not President Bush.

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CelticUrge
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Don't Blame Bush for Katrina (news artic..., posted by CelticUrge on Sep 7, 2005

In case you aren’t familiar with how our government is SUPPOSED to work: The chain of responsiblity for the protection of the citizens in New Orleans is:

1. The Mayor
2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political appointee of the Governor who reports to the Governor)
3. The Governor
4. The Head of Homeland Security
5. The President

What did each do?

1. The mayor, with 5 days advance, waited until 2 days before he announced a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). Then he failed to provide transportation for those without transport even though he had hundreds of buses at his disposal.

2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any plan for a contingency that has been talked about for 50 years. Then he blames the Feds for not doing what he should have done. So much for political appointees.

3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President 2 DAYS BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of Federal troops and aid, until 2 days AFTER the storm hit.

4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area to be ready when the Governor called for them.

5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a disaster State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of federal assistance, should the Governor decide to use it.

Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of the local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Political correctness and a lack of will to fight crime have created the single most corrupt police force in the country, and has permitted gang violence to flourish. And remember that 300 of New Orleans police officers deserted their posts, which contributed to the crime in the Superdome and in the city during the flooding.

For those who missed item 5 (where the President’s level of accountability is discussed), it is made more clear in a New Orleans Times-Picayune article dated August 28, 2005:

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — In the face of a catastrophic Hurricane Katrina, a mandatory evacuation was ordered Sunday for New Orleans by Mayor Ray Nagin.

Acknowledging that large numbers of people, many of them stranded tourists, would be unable to leave, The city set up 10 places of last resort for people to go, including the Superdome.

The mayor called the order unprecedented and said anyone who could leave the city should. He exempted hotels from the evacuation order because airlines had already cancelled all flights.

If you’re keeping track, the mayor let 569 buses that could have carried 33,350 people out of New Orleans, in one trip, get ruined in the floods.
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Stezo71
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to New Orleans - The Chain of Responsiblity, posted by CelticUrge on Sep 7, 2005

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/13/katrina.washington/index.html
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OkieMan
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to New Orleans - The Chain of Responsiblity, posted by CelticUrge on Sep 7, 2005

Celtic Urge,

All excellent points.  We should all get on some TV talk show and express our viewpoints!! ha

                               OkieMan

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Ray
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Don't Blame Bush for Katrina (news artic..., posted by CelticUrge on Sep 7, 2005

I saw an interview the other day with New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin. He was asked who messed up and he said everyone messed up. Asked if that also included himself, he sheepishly said that he could have done some things better. He was asked if he had it all to do over again, what would he do differently.

Did he say he would have evacuated more people, including the poorest of his constituents? No.

Did he say he would have used the city/school busses for evacuation? No.

Did he say he would have at least moved the busses to higher ground? No.

Did he say he would have made sure that the City’s primary evacuation shelter had stocks of food and water? No.

His only response to what he would have done differently: “I would have screamed louder”!

I guess that’s what screaming liberals do best…Scream! And the only thing they would change is how loudly they scream.

This guy blames everyone but himself. Amazing!

Ray

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OkieMan
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Don't Blame Bush, posted by Ray on Sep 7, 2005

Ray,

That guy is a classic example of a liberal playing the blame game.  He is incompetent, but won't admit it.  All he knows to do is point the finger at others and cry foul!
What a duffus!

                            OkieMan

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CelticUrge
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Don't Blame Bush, posted by Ray on Sep 7, 2005

Great info. Sorry I missed that interview. Sad commentary.
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Ray
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Don't Blame Bush, posted by CelticUrge on Sep 7, 2005

[This message has been edited by Ray]

That was on Dateline NBC on Monday. You can see the interview with transcript here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9220142/

Notice how easy Stone Phillips let him off? :-)

Ray

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CelticUrge
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Don't Blame Bush, posted by Ray on Sep 8, 2005

Are you sure it's not "Stoned Phillips" ?
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sacajundude
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't Blame Bush, posted by CelticUrge on Sep 8, 2005

Probably depends on the time of day...
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OkieMan
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Don't Blame Bush for Katrina (news artic..., posted by CelticUrge on Sep 7, 2005

Celtic Urge,

This is exactly right on the nose!!  That is the same thing I have been saying on this board for the last several days.  Unfortunately, the news media will not report this story in this manner, because it has certainly turned into a "Bash Bush" campaign!!  I just hope that the truth will somehow come out, and the country can move on to just helping the victims of this disaster.  This one will be with us for a good while.

                           OkieMan

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Pete E
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Don't Blame Bush for Katrina (news artic..., posted by CelticUrge on Sep 7, 2005

Yes there is an old way things get handled,the thinking the locals are primarily responsible,which is fine except when  an event goes WAY beyong their abilty to respond.With all the concern about possible huge terrorist events this old structure is TOTALLY unaceptable and
needs to be modified.Federal officials need to be in the forefront of planning for huge disasters.If they didn't THINK of it the should have been.If the steps in place were inadequate we should have heard from them before the catastrophic event.This pass the hot potato based on old rules of response does not fly.We NEED to do better.We will,NEXT time.
I am sure there is plenty of blame to go around.The locals could have done better.But once it hit the power of the FEDERAL government was needed.I can't believe it but we might be hearing the same pass the buck bullshit if someone set off a tactical nuclear weapon.To be unprepared after the events of the last few years is REDICULOUS.
So don't give me the this is the way we do it.That should have been recognised in advance as unacceptably cumbersom in a huge emmergency.
AND,this one WAS NOT UNANTICIPATED.It was known generlly for years and specifically for days there was a DISASTER looming.Some of the IDIOT reponses by federal officials,claiming to not know untill 2 days later what anyone with a television,even in Bancock knew is such nonsense.AND,even though the democrats will make hay with it there is widespread Republican critisism.And it did not start with the politicians,but reporters on the ground,2 and 3 days after the event saying WHERE IS THE HELP,WHY IS NOTHING BEING DONE?
As far as it being Bush's fault,I am sure its the last thing he would have wanted.He is responsible in that he is the chief executive and these guys work for him.But they were probably saying we got it handled and he belived them.
Water under the bridge,or over the house.We have to do better.This needs to be investigated.Things need to be changed BIG time,including all of the besaursacrtic entanglement that was the gist of this artical.NOT ACCEPTABLE.Wether heads should roll?Probably.These guys dropped the BALL big time.There is beauracratic entrenchment at FEMA that is ABSURD.We need private sector kick ass people overseing the not my job don't take a risk or rock the boat beauracrats.
GOOD PRIVATE SECTOR PEOPLE,NOT POSER SUITS LIKE TOM RIDGE.NOT POLITICAL TYPES,BUT EXECUTIVE TYPES.ACTION ACCOUNTABILITY NOT BS HYPE AND SELF CONGRATUALATING.
GWB needs to get beyond that,he has been prone to coming up with those types.ALL SHOW,NO GO.OR AS JOHN McCAIN PUT IT,BIG HAT,NO CATTLE

Pete

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CelticUrge
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Not AT ALL good enough, posted by Pete E on Sep 7, 2005

"AS JOHN McCAIN PUT IT,BIG HAT,NO CATTLE"

LOL. I missed that speach/interview/whatever. Without knowing the context of what he was talking about with this quote, it sounds like a little barb pointed at Bush?Huh?

The real s**t is just beginning to hit the fan. There will be plenty of debate, blame, posturing, etc. to go around on this disaster for many months. Pay attention to the media over the past week. Lots of blame and conjecture, and we all get wrapped up in it. Take note of whether any of it results in REAL change that will be of value in the future.

I have a friend who is basically the office manager for a $15M/year company. She answers only to the owners. Numerous meetings, as is the norm in corporate America, and government. She takes a note pad and pen to every meeting. Often, other people get upset when she fails to keep writing or note taking. Her response: "I only take note of decisions made."

Let's watch for those decisions that matter. Substantive changes that actually make a difference. My prediction, after months of discussion and finger pointing, there will be little to no substantive changes made. I feel safer already but hope that I am wrong.

BTW, the "local" officials have been attempting to improve the levee system for some 40 years but Congress, in its infinite wisdom, has never allowed it to get very far in the system due to cost considerations. One news story showed a New Orleans "Times-Picayune" (local paper) story from 2002 that spelled out everything that could happen, and its consequences. "We" meaning governmental officials, institutions, etc. have known about the problem and possible outcome for many, many years.

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Pete E
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Not AT ALL good enough, posted by CelticUrge on Sep 7, 2005

About he cost of the levy.That has to be considered.It can't be a blank check for everyone who decides to build 8 ft below sea level.Which also raises a question about rescue costs,but when peoples lives are IMMEDIATELY at stake you have to save them.Perhaps FEMA should say no more flood insurance for super risky situations,then you don't get the buildings that the people endanger their lives by occupying.

Pete

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CelticUrge
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Not AT ALL good enough, posted by Pete E on Sep 7, 2005

[This message has been edited by CelticUrge]

As I recall, the number for a rebuild of the levee system to withstand a category 5 storm was $14 Billion. Somebody correct me if I recall this incorrectly. Sounds like an inexpensive project up until a week ago anyway. Now storm damage estimates are $30 B and up, and the levee is still designed for a category 3 storm.

BTW, it appears that 40 other nations are stepping up to the plate and making pledges of support in many ways. That's a good sign on the world stage.

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