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There has been a certain amount of critisism of Margareth.I thought it important to give my opinion.
Not only is Margareth my friend but she introduced me to my number one girl friend.Just from sheer numbers she had probably the most successfull agency in Colombia.
And some other agencies are calling themselves the most successfull agency in Colombia with probably not 50 gringos ever showing up.And Zero successfull relationships we have heard of.Even INITIALLY successfull,as in even a serious relationship out of it.
My guess is Margareth is probably directly responsible for more marriages than any other person in LATIN AMERICA.
Luz Amparo has done well here also,but my bet is on Margareth for numbers.

Pete

... in response to Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by Pete E on Dec 28, 2004

I totally agree Pete. Margareth will def be missed. She and Shirley we're a huge part of my being married to my wife. I think she may have gotten a worse reputation then she deserves. Yes she will try to make money with every angle possible (which irratated me a bit when I was there the second time to be married) but she does sincerely care about people and if they are successful.
I thought it didnt make much sense when some guys would get so upset over cheap stuff like giving a girl money for a taxi when they just spent hundreds of dollars in airfare etc..
Does anybody know what happened to Shirley the LE secretary in 2001? I know she married an american but Im curious what city, nice guy etc..
I wonder because she seemed really picky and not anxious to leave Colombia at all. She is one of the hardest working people Ive ever met and I used to joke with  her that if she worked that hard in the U.S. she'd be a millionaire. She had a tough life then and she personally introduced me to my wife so I've always been hopeful that things would work out well for her.

... in response to Re: Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by Stezo71 on Dec 29, 2004

STEZO71
Shirley married a man that lives near Washington D.C. Fairfax i believe.

Shirley married a man about 62 years old, and i believe her to be about 28, so do the math.

As far as how the marriage is going, who knows.

KB

... in response to Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by Pete E on Dec 28, 2004

I think this thread would have been more helpful prior to Margareth closing LE's doors. In a way, it is like an obituary praising the deceased. However, hopefully after reading these posts, Margareth will walk away from LE feeling better about her accomplishments, while we, here at PL, will remember her in a more positive light. Certainly, many will not remember her fondly, but I believe this is because she stood up for certain values and morals that limited many of her male clients. Many criticized the family atmosphere of the agency, but I believe it made the women comfortable and that was my main concern.

I also consider Margareth a friend. Margareth and I had some long and interesting conversations about her youth, her struggles and her motivations behind running an agency. I admired Margareth's loyalty and maternal care towards the women at her agency. She protected her girls and took an active role in making sure they were treated with dignity and respect. It will be difficult for the new owner of LE to transfer this "good will" to his new agency. It seems that CaliVIP and ACG will be the greatest winners in the aftermath.

About a year ago, I received a desperate call from an LE woman, pleaing for help. Surprisingly, she was in my town living with her fiance, but the relationship had become precarious. Her fiance had asked her to pack her bags and get the hell out. She had no one and no where to turn. She had called LE, they had given her my number, and before you knew it, I was picking her, along with a few suitcases from the curb of her fiance's place... Margareth was someone the women could turn to for support.

I regret not having found a life partner under Margareth's watch. Lord knows I tried, but things weren't meant to be. I agree with those who state that Margareth's interest in managing LE had deteriorated. She seems to have her heart and mind in a different place and it is a good thing she has decided to focus on her new calling. I wish her well. As corny as this may sound, Cali is not going to be the same to me without LE.

... in response to Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by Pete E on Dec 28, 2004

Just on sheer numbers Margareth was the most successful matchmaker in Cali. She used to like it when I always referred to her as La reina de matrimonio.
But I think the writing was on the wall for LE based on my experience. In 2003 the agency was running on all cylinders and she had a great staff.
But when I revisited in 2004 I was really surprised at the dropoff and the support staff was really lacking. Where as in 2003 and 2002 no shows were untolerated and very seldom , they increased 3 fold and the supporting staff didnt have the same customer service as before.
Also Margareth was nowhere to be found and I think when the cats away the mice will play. The girls in the past had too much respect for Margareth to no-show because Margareth would personally pick up the phone and call the girls and/or remove them. I personally saw this on more than one occasion.
Losing Alcira in 2003 was a big loss. Alcira really help make that place click and so did the gal before Alcira, her name escapes me but she was a real looker and ended up marrying one of the clients.
Paula was a nice girl but really not up to the task, especially with Margareth not being around and as involved as before.
I used to enjoy sitting late at night in Margareth's office and just talking about life and issues removed from the agency. She is a very intelligent woman. More so in common sense then book smart
I understand Margareth getting sidetrack with her new husband and her involvement with the church but the agency really suffered because of that. Also a lot of girls were allowed into the agency that in the past Maragareth would have removed in a heartbeat.

... in response to Re: Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by CartagenaPapito on Dec 29, 2004

I have to agree with you whole heartedly.  When I first visited LE in 2003 Margreth and especially Alicira were outstanding.  They gave me a special deal since I was only going to be in cali a few days and it was well worth it.  I was so impressed that I bought a year membership in 2004 and spent much time in cali this year.  The drop off was more the noticable.  Paula was a very nice person but not up to the task and Margreth was nowhere to be seen.  I often wished i maximized my time in 2003 but I found colombia to late in the year.

... in response to Re: Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by CartagenaPapito on Dec 29, 2004

I will second all CTGPapito said. When i first went there in 2002 the staff was sharp, Angelica(married the guy from Germany), Shirly and Carol. All since gone and married. They really made the girls walk the line . Margareath had a much stronger role in policing the women as well. When i returned in 2004, i saw things that made me want to puke and get  really pissed off by. Things that have no business in an agency going on and Margareath just either too tired or too distracted to do anything about it.

I will agree that she most likely was the largest matchmaker in Cali for certain,it is just a shame that her reputation in the past 2 years  that she spent the past 10 years building, has been tarnished and tattered. I personaly like Margareath, but as far as doing business with her , not in 10 lifetimes,

But if you are reading this  Margui, as a person i really like you, just not as an agency owner

KB

... in response to Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by Pete E on Dec 28, 2004

I dont know if you were around in the late 90's when Latin Connections was in business but Margo who ran the place had a very good success rate. I personally witnessed dozens of engagements before Beckwith shut the place down.
In my opinion she was the best agency operator in Cali.
Do you know if LE will reopen soon and will they be at a new location?

... in response to Re: Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by harleyman on Dec 28, 2004

I never met Margo and never used Latin Connections.When I came on the scene in 1999 they were still trying to get $1000 just to walk in the door.Bud who started Latin Love put an end to that way of doing business and Latin Conections I think.He charged $100 a night,no other fees or costs.But even that rate started getting undermined by people willing to do it for as little as $35 a night.The nature of competition I guess.I liked Rubby Rios that used to manage Latin Love and worked for Latin Internet before that.When she left in 12-99 I think it was the beginning of the end for Latin Love.But maybe it happened before that when Bud discovered the high costs of things like utilities and the low number of guys who were staying there on an average.
Ed Beckweth has a very bad reputation that seems deserved from any post he ever did here,calling anyone who disagreed losers,ect.I think he got good and drunk before he would post.But he was probably the only gringo to ever make any money in the agency business in Cali.
So its a tough game.I think people who survived like Margareth,Ricardo and Luz Amparo were content to just cover their costs which included a  place they could  live also.Anybody planning on actuially pulling any money out came up disapointed I think.
The new location for Latin Encounters?I am told it is near the hotel intercontinental.One guy said he saw some banners.But I drove by and didn't see anything.
I think the challenge for anyone new in the business is bringing in new business,which would seem easy based on the opportunities here but in fact is anything but easy from what I am told.
But the new guy better get with it,no time for people not to know who you are or where you are located.This is high season in Cali.It will soon be was high season.

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by Pete E on Dec 29, 2004

Hell, I haven't heard her name in ages.  That girl took some many people, she was a serious gasolinera.  I think if you do a search you'll pull up some old negative posts on her.  I don't know if what Mr. Ed posted about her is true, but a girl has to do what she has to do and maybe she got caught.  She was a wild one on an intimate level, or at least that's what I heard.  -TNC

... in response to Ruby Rios..., posted by thundernco on Dec 29, 2004

Sorry to all, I mixed up my Ruby;s. -TNC

... in response to Ruby Rios..., posted by thundernco on Dec 29, 2004

I liked Ruby. I can't speak about these current accusations, but she was good to me and didn't do anything for me to speak ill of her.
I agree that when she left, that was the beginning of the end of the Crystal Palace.

... in response to Re: Ruby Rios..., posted by Traveller on Dec 29, 2004


I can't say a bad thing about Rubi. Rubi, was the first one to notice how special my wife was to me, during our initial meeting. Rubi, took it upon herself to cancel my other appointments, because she knew what was going to happen :-)

Yo K/Pac, do you remember the candle-light engagement ceremony with the guy from Minn & his soon to be wife? Rubi, also organized a surprise birthday party for me, during one of my stays. No doubt about it.....it was the beginning of the end for the Crystal Palace, once she left.

... in response to Ditto...., posted by Hoda on Dec 30, 2004

The guy from Minn or Wisc.? Donnie?
Was I there for your birthday? I was at one party when you were the designated rump shaker. None of the Gringos wanted to get out there and showed what they had. Or didn't have. That was the night the Mariachis were there.
I remember big tall steins of "Budweiser"(Club Colombia). I'm "weiser" too now. Club Olo. Rubi went with us.  
I also remember you walking around like Ed McMahon was going to knock on the door to give you a million dollar check. That breathless feeling. "Stivalis is coming. Stivalis is coming." I remember one night when you told me to turn the Harry Connick Jr. up because Stivalis liked it.
Oh yes, my friend. Them there was good times.

... in response to Re: Ruby Rios..., posted by Traveller on Dec 29, 2004

Hey K,

Happy Holidays to you and yours.  Wasn't she Mauro's pseudo girlfriend after she left?  Maybe I'm confusing her with another Ruby, if so, I'd like to be sure since I don't want to speak ill of the wrong person.  -TNC

... in response to Re: Re: Ruby Rios..., posted by thundernco on Dec 30, 2004

Naw, that was another Ruby. You're talking about "sticking it to you" Ruby.
Thanks Happy Holidays to you too. Freaking Cold up here. Can't wait to get back down South. LOL!

... in response to Re: Re: Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by Pete E on Dec 29, 2004

Hey Pete,

 For newer guys like me, that does not have the background or relationships with the people you and others have been discussing; give me your opinion of where you see the agency situation going?  I am talking about the entire scene, not just whoever this new owner of Latin Encounters is?  Personally, I have used Latin-Internet, in Cali. For the most part, they are helpful, but they do not want to "stick their neck out" either.  They seem to be a little afraid of "going the extra mile", concerning giving me help with the ladies.   Also, I have inquired concerning some of the other agencies in Cali.  But, I have not spent any money with them yet.  I also am planning on going to Medellin and check out the ladies at Colombian Sweethearts; but I have not been there yet.  I am hoping to travel in March. Plus, my personal opinion is that I definitely do not get into doing the tours like Bruce does with TLC. However, since you live in Cali, and can observe all of this on a daily basis; you and the other guys down there can help us to see what things are like today.  Obviously, based on these most recent posts, things are a lot different than they were a few years ago.  Since I cannot live there, and I do not as yet speak spanish, I and other men like me need the "reputable" agencies.  Naturally, I do not want to get ripped off, nor do I want to waste my time.  So, your prospective, and the experience of men like you can help the rest of us.

                      OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Margareth of Latin Encounter..., posted by OkieMan on Dec 29, 2004

Were is it going?I guess my general opinion is agencies like LAI in Bogota and Colombian Sweethearts in Medellin will do OK because they are pretty much the main game in town.And new interest in Medellin could also help Colombian sweethearts.
I think the Cali agencies are in for a tough haul because of the amount of competition.Not only are there seemingly less guys coming here but alot of them are veterans who are not going to pay big fees to agencies.They might pay $300 for a year or $200 for a couple of weeks.The guys bitting off $500 a week are new guys,and there does not seem to be enough of them coming.
There are 5 main agencies in town.
-One just got sold,we will see what happens there.I don't see it really making money but maybe,the guy did get the best inventory of girls in town.
-2 others are scraping by,the owners  seem to be making ends meet but I doubt making much money.One will move back north soon.
-Another agency with alot of money dumped in to it can't be making any money I think.How long will the owner feed it?My guess less than  6 months.
-Another agency,OK I will name it,Latin Internet is sort of a mystery but I presume hard times are hitting them also.
So my general prediction.5 big agencies in Cali now.3 in a year.Of course there are always small players making a little money here and there,scraping by.
I have seen at least 2 women who thought they were going to start a new agency  get nowhere with it.
For guys  staying  with me or just asking I run down the options and they choose.Its usually between 2 agencies who they will pick.
I know thats general but I didn't really want to start naming names here.

Pete

... in response to Future of agencies?, posted by Pete E on Dec 29, 2004

I find it hard to believe that there has been a slowdown of gringos going to Cali. There was so much talk of Cali being a "gringo mill" and being "fished out" this last year on the forum. As difficult as it is for the agency owners it is better for the few guys with the guts to go down as it creates less competition amongst the guys.
I think that the ratio of experienced veterans vs.the newbies is also up with all of the repeat gringos in Cali doing their own thing which does nothing for the agencies.
As the agencies come and go the girls will always follow them and there will always be two or three agencies for the new guys to get their feet wet and the lazy old guys like me to hang out at.
Pete seems to have been around just as long as most of the surviving agencies...how about "Pete's Introductions and B&B" for a change?
Pete, I will be down around Jan 15, how is the room situation at your place?

... in response to Re: Future of agencies?, posted by harleyman on Dec 29, 2004

Well Cali might be called a gringo mill in that more gringos come here looking for women than any place I know of.But too many?And fished out?Far from it.There are thousands of girls getting very little attention.
As far as numbers being down I am getting that from agencies and guys like Bruce who owns TLC.
Intoductions and B and B ? Well I guess I am sort of a
B and B.Introductions,if any and advice free.I will tell you more than I have said here about costs,options and
what some have experienced.
Mail me.Jan 15 looks good right now.

Pete
peiguren@aol.com

... in response to Future of agencies?, posted by Pete E on Dec 29, 2004

I think guys like Ramon and Walter and other "Personalized" based services is the way to go.
Ramon's service is just kind of word of mouth. Sometimes it's hit and miss with what kind of women he will introduce you to. But, he works cheap and he's a pretty good guide and guy. When he's on, he's on. Meaning, when he has some good looking women to introduce you to, he really out does himself. But.......sometimes he has some true hood rats.
Walter; I've never used his service and I think people know what I think of him personally, but he's another guy who will hook you up with some nice looking ladies. But....he's on the downward trend too with offering a $400 membership. If he gets rid of that, he should be ok by pay per meeting or something.  
A lot of Colombians do not understand the concept of supply and demand. You may have the supply, but if there is a decreasing demand, you need to lower your price or do something to attract those who might not be initally interested in your product.
The way of the bed and breakfast might be on the way out and the era of the "Personalized" service and staying in a hotel is the way to go. Guys like Ramon and Walter who have their not so small little black books might be the guys who make out in this slow down. Bed and breakfasts have too much overhead. The smaller guys basically have no overhead so they are able to stay in business easier. Yeah, it's hit and miss with them. At least Walter has a website so you can do some pre-shopping before you head down to Cali. But even with Ramon, you can meet a lot of women for the fraction of the price you would pay at a B&B. They have the same problem as the B&Bs too. Some of the women are pay4play and some aren't. You can meet a quality girl through these guys though. You can quote me on that. You just might have to go through a few more than usual. But, isn't that part of the fun?
Plus, Ramon and I'm sure Walter will translate for you and be a guide for you too. With Ramon your fee for service is negotiable. I think he charges far to little, but I've talked him about it and he still charges what he wants to and it isn't much. This is defintely the way to go if you are on a tight budget and you want to meet as many women as possible. Sure, you are going to have to pay for her or thier taxi and you will have to pick up the tab on the drinks and kick down some money to Ramon, but that's a pretty cheap evening considering. Hell, I still hang out with Ramon.
Back to subject, this might be the enduring part that might be around after a few more agencies bite the dust. I'm not saying this is a better alternative to the B&B just a different option.

... in response to Re: Future of agencies?, posted by Traveller on Dec 29, 2004

Keith,
Yeah guys like Ramon are going to survive because he has no overhead.And he gets free food and drink as part of his job.I like Ramon he is fun guy.I never did any posts mentioning his name for fear of guys coming on and expounding on some of his activities.Basically he will find you girls,any kind you want.Some girls are afraid to be associated with him for fear of being identified with his other type of girls.But he introduced me to a dentist as well as one of my current girl friends,who is about a good a person as you could find.
Walter is a step beyond in that he has a web site and he told me he bought a house he was fixing up to use as an agency and bed and breakfast.He denies having anything to do with the "pro side" of the business.
Yeah,these guys are a resourse.One guy I know well used Walter alot recently.I think he spent most of 3 or 4 weeks with Walter.If you don't speak spanish and want to meet girls you don't find at agencies Walter can set you up.

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: Future of agencies?, posted by Pete E on Dec 29, 2004

You know, it's funny that you mention that some girls are afraid to get involved with Ramon because some of his girls are "questionable." Once I was going out with a woman Ramon introduced me to. She worked for a politican in Cali. She was the campaign manager or something. Now she works for the City manager's office, I think.
Anyway, myself, Esmerelda, Ramon and a couple of his hood rats went to Galileo. Went with another group of people too, if I remember correctly. Esmerelda told me she really didn't want to be associated with the hood rats and would from then on distance herself from Ramon. I explained this to Ramon and it seemed to me he just didn't really get it. You can't mix the fine china with the styrofoam plates.
But, like I said before, Ramon has hooked me up with a few winners and some just fun dates.

... in response to Re: Future of agencies?, posted by Traveller on Dec 29, 2004

Traveller, good post. Do you have the contact info for Ramon and the website for  Walter.
Thanks

... in response to Re: Re: Future of agencies?, posted by CartagenaPapito on Dec 29, 2004

Ramon's Email.
ballesteros2005@nospam.com

... in response to Re: Re: Future of agencies?, posted by CartagenaPapito on Dec 29, 2004

Ramon's cell phone is 315-597-6624.You can say I reffered you if you want.You might get a little noise in the backgroud,he will be in a bar or out front of one in the evening.

Pete

... in response to Ramon, posted by Pete E on Dec 29, 2004

Pete,
 I am wondering if Ramon's cell phone is a Colombian number, or is it one of those types where he has a US number forwarded to him?   I am saying that because Steve Valdez with Colombian Sweethearts has his US phone number forwarded to Medellin; but he is an american.  I do not have a Colombian calling card, or whatever, so I certainly don't want to pay some outrageous rate for a phone call. I just need to know how all of this works.  Of course, with Ramon's type of arrangement, I would probably just want to wait until I actually arrived.  Give me your opinion.
             
                            OkieMan

... in response to Re: Ramon, posted by OkieMan on Dec 29, 2004

A miniscule fraction of the available women in Colombia use an agency. Why limit yourself? Primarily because of language difficulties. If I were doing this, I would go down there and hook up with a guy like Ramon or a gringo like Pablo in Medellin. With them helping you, you could meet chicks who would never register with an agency. It's unbelieveably easy to meet women in Colombia but not knowing Spanish is the real handicap most guys face. That and a certain justifiable anxiety about the security situation. With a trusted helper, those problems are eliminated and a whole new world awaits you.

... in response to Re: Re: Ramon, posted by utopiacowboy on Dec 29, 2004

Yeah, I agree with you.  I have copied Ramon and Walter's info down so that I can avail myself of their services.  Utopiacowboy, I hope that you and yours are doing well.

                            OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Ramon, posted by OkieMan on Dec 29, 2004

Keep studying Spanish, dude! When you're down there, speak as much Spanish as you can, no matter how ridiculous you think you sound. The chicas love it. I can't tell you how many times I had gorgeous women giggling while I was talking to them and when I asked them what was so funny, they would smile and say "You! You're so cute!". If I wasn't already married..... Now that my wife is learning English, she knocks me out when she speaks English! That accent! IT IS SO CUTE!!!!!

... in response to Ramon, posted by Pete E on Dec 29, 2004

Holy Crap! You can find Ramon any Friday or Saturday in front of Douglas. If he hasn't found a new place to hang out at.

... in response to Re: Re: Future of agencies?, posted by CartagenaPapito on Dec 29, 2004

I'm seeing if a friend of mine has Ramon's email address.
Walter's website is www.personalmeetings.com
When I get the email address I'll post it.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Future of agencies?, posted by Traveller on Dec 29, 2004

Thanks Traveller and Pete for the Info

... in response to Re: Re: Future of agencies?, posted by CartagenaPapito on Dec 29, 2004

Traveller,
 I too would like the info on Ramon and Walter.  I used to have the website for Walter, but I lost it.  However, since I had posted my earlier questions; I would like to follow up with something concerning Latin-Internet.  I am more familiar with them, since I am currently a member,and I have used them before.  I have been told here many times that it is better to actually travel to Colombia and meet the women.  Well, naturally that is true, and I did.  But, then you have the "down" times, when you are back in the States, and lonely, etc.   At this point, I can't go down there every other month, or something.   So, I try the next best thing.  Speaking personally, I enjoy trying to "fish" long distance.  It's not nearly as good as in person, but it sure beats nothing!  Now, I said all that to say this, at Latin-Internet, I can look on the website and pick through the ladies I am interested in and then I write them.
The difference with that agency from some of the others is that I send the email to the agency, and one of the staff members translates the letter and sends it on to the lady.  I realize that many of you guys are fluent, or near fluent in spanish.  However, for guys like me, who cannot speak spanish yet; this is a real help.  And another thing, there is no limit on the number of emails or a limit on the number of ladies.  I am not being paid to say this, it's just that I am giving to you my experience.  If some of the other agencies in Cali were as strong as they once were, I might try them; and at some point, I still might.  But, since Pete said that Latin-Internet is somewhat a mystery, I thought I would put in my two cents worth.  The staff is nice, but they will not let a woman spend the night; at least not until you are engaged or married.  They told me they had a bad experience some time back with some guy partying too loud, so they put a stop to that part of it.  But, the Villa is nice.  Now it's not as classy or big as the one at CaliViP, from what you guys have said; but it's nice.  Anyway, I just thought some of you might want to hear about that.  It's up to you.

                      OkieMan

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Future of agencies?, posted by OkieMan on Dec 29, 2004

Comments on Latin Internet are very rare and I'd encourage you to post a seperate thread on this agency discussing the staff, facilities, services, women, etc. I have visited the Latin Internet facility, but I've never used their services. It is a very beautiful property, but it doesn't seem to have as much traffic as the other agencies. They seem like a viable option because their women are typically not associated with any of the other agencies. I'm curious to know roughly what percentage of the women showed up to your appointments. Did you get a feel for how often they came to the agency? One thing I liked about colombiansweethearts.com was that I was the first appointment for a few of the girls. One had even  gotten a manicure and pedicure for the cita. This just goes to show how important it is that we treat the women with respect even if we quickly conclude that the appointment isn't going anywhere. Maybe she will be perfect for the next guy that comes along, but she will only show up for the next guy if her experience was positive IMHO.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Future of agencies?, posted by Seeker on Dec 29, 2004

Seeker,

Thanks for your comments.  I will be happy to give my opinion concerning Latin-Internet.  Since you recommended me doing a separate thread, then that's what I will do.

                            OkieMan

... in response to Re: Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by harleyman on Dec 28, 2004

I visited both Latin Encounters and Latin Connections. Both Margareth and Margo were helpful but I thought that Margareth was more personable and seemed more eager to find a good match for gringos. But personally I never had any major problems with either of them.

If you want to call an agency "the best" based on the number of marriages produced, Margareth is probably the best to date. I have nothing against Margo, but if she was the best agency operator, why did she go out of business while Margareth moved on?

Zack

... in response to Re: Re: Margareth of Latin Encounters, posted by zack on Dec 28, 2004

Margo was not the owner of Latin Connections, just an employee for Beckwith. I heard Margo is now working for an agency in Bogota, I am sure she will do very well there again.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Margareth of Latin Encounter..., posted by harleyman on Dec 29, 2004

[This message has been edited by zack]

Good point. I never met Beckwith but I remember that he didn't have the greatest repution.

I didn't know that Margo went to Bogota. That is quite a change- from sunny, hot Cali to cool and cloudy Bogota. Agreed, she will do very well there again.