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Pete,

Just curious on how things are going?  You getting homesick yet?  I know you hate Colombian food...you eating hamburgers every day?  You learned how to construct a sentance in Spanish yet?  Any word from your ex-wife about whether or not the house has been foreclosed on yet? Or if they have shut the utilities off at your old house yet?

Do you think at some point, you will have difficulty re-entering the US due to credit problems, or issues with the INS regarding the way your marriage ended up, in terms of whatever happens to your wife and the Affidavit Of Support you are still bound by?

... in response to PeteE, posted by JunFan on Dec 31, 2003

Mike,
I'm glad I read your second post down below to discover your real opinion here.
Let me try to answer this post first,which has lots of reasonable questions.
No,I'm not homesick.I am  having a fairly good time but I haven't done too much yet.I have been spending more time with gringos than chicas.Only one real date so far.I gave Margareth a list of about 10 girls I want to meet yesterday.Its the holidays so they are hard to round up right now.Should pick up alot in a few days.I also spent alot of time looking for apartments.I found one I like but everybody seems to be on vacation,won't return calls.By Monday we should be able to run them down.
Actually I like Colombian food alot better this time.I think some of my complaints last time were more motivated by boredom and food at my in laws house.I have had some excellent steaks,plus my favorite pollo curry at crepes and waffles.
I am speaking more spanish but need to really study it.Once I get settled I will hire a private tutor I know of.
Being in Real estate I understand the foreclosure process.I used to by forclosed properties.The first step is a Notice of default.It soundfs like they are giving me untill about 1/10 to respond to some options.I could bullsh!t them and buy some time but I will probably not respond and they will file the notice by the end of January.The first step in a 5 month minimum process to get the house back.She will probably get to live there untill somewhere between June and August.
Shut  the utilities off?Where did you get that idea?I paid them through the time I left,so she won't even get a bill for a month or so.Then she needs to face reality.Free house but you have to pay power,water and phone,plus cable TV.Not so bad.No rent payment for now.She could rent the room that was my office for more than the utilities,so she could effectively be there for free.Plus I gave her a car and all the furniture.If she just wanted to bail for Colombia she couls sell that stuff and have some money.Not to mention the business I gave her family the money to start in Colombia.Not too bad for a girl that has been given everything to this point and who doesn't seem to even get it what she has been given.A little too good possibly.Certainly lots more than she deserves for her half hearted dishonest attempts to be a wife.
Trouble with the INS??? There is none.
Credit problems have no effect on your ability to enter the US,and if I get a little bit lucky I might even avoid them.
The affidavid of support.My understanding is the only way it can effect you is if she goes on some sort of public assistance you might have to pay them back.For all her mistreatment of me this is one proud lady.I don't think that will happen.And she can always go back to Colombia with the money from the car and furniture plus I will but her ticket.She got real interested awhile back who's name the Colombian business was in.I think she was thinking it could be hers.
I know you paid up big time for being married only a short time,and wonder why that was even neccesary but I presume it was out of concern for trouble she could cause you.I  think you could have had a good chance to just go for an annulment or Divorce.Dallas Steve was mnarried alot longer than you and his wife got zip.But you made what you thought was the right decision.But believe me I have paid ALOT more than you did.
About your second post.It seems there is the nice guy Mike who seems reasonable and then this guy who comes off bitter,angry and negative.I honestly wonder what you might have ingested between the 2 very different posts.
I did what I thought was best for me.Our lifestyle had been a money burner anyway,then things got much worse and my income went to hell.I don't think she deserves what she has already gotten.Plus she might have gotten no more based on my income of the last year.But I didn't want to hang around and watch.It was awfull living together under our final circumstances.I would have had to go to Court just to get her out of MY house.
Plus I have this pension that I did put in 28 years to earn that I can live fine on in Latin America.It gives me some well deserved options.
Other people paying for her kids schooling?I spent many years with a way above average income paying more than my share.But they are better off in a way with me being gone because with their new low income they can get almost free insurance.Thats not an affidavid of support issue,just one of those social programs that rewards underachieving.
Call it running if you like.I was in a bad situsation I wanted out of and I have some unique options and I made my choice.I was far too generous and patient for way too long.
What she deserves is to be back in the Barrio where she was before I came along and I will pay her ticket there any time.
I can't remember if I answered all the negative jabs from your second post.I only have the first to refer to with this post.
I presume that all those great options with US chicas didn't pan out or you would not still be being so negative.
There is often more to a story than we know.I think everybody here knows my story a whole lot better than yours.I told the whole thing,including all the details and my feeings about it.There is nothing hiden.I think I'll skip another comment I was going to make and stop with that.

Pete

... in response to Re: PeteE, posted by Pete E on Jan 1, 2004

You really have all this figured out, don't you? I had no idea.

You convinced me...

You know, you're just such a nice guy....plus, you have rationalized everything so well.  I mean, hey, you paid your dues, you should be able to just cut and run.

I don't know what to say.

Can someone please pass me a hanky, I think I'm gonna cry.

... in response to WOW, posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

Mike,
It would have been easier to do what you did,but I just kept hanging in there and paid for it big time.
As I said I think you did the right thing for your situation.

Pete

... in response to Re: WOW, posted by Pete E on Jan 1, 2004

The question is not if it hanging in there was the right thing to do.

The issue was why you chose to flee the country with a bunch of legal loose ends left hanging, versus taking your lumps with the divorce and getting everything behind you once and for all.

... in response to Re: Re: WOW, posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

Seems to me the option you chose for your divorced didn't get anything behind you except perhaps your humanity.  Maybe you "tied up all your legal loose ends", but sadly you don't seem to realize that life is more than legal loose ends.  Actually I think someone lending you a hankie would be exactly what you need right now, if it meant you actually COULD cry.  You have so much pent up bitterness and resentment that you seem to have lost all compassion and empathy for others.  I think a good cry is just what you need.

... in response to Re: Re: WOW, posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

Mike,
We actually have a divorce agreement with distribution of property she says she will sign.
Why do I need to stick around in a bad situation for it to be final? 6 months of my life is important to me.I would rather be finding a new chica than living with one that doesn't give a damm about me.And seperate households would be a big expense there.I prefer my seperate household here.
If I am not making the money I need to live there a solution is to greatly reduce my cost of living,as in here.
What was that old story about walking a mile in someone elses shoes?

Pete

... in response to Re: PeteE, posted by Pete E on Jan 1, 2004

Excellent reply Pete....
Your control is enviable....

JunFan casts criticism, but never did relate why the wife left after 3 months....

... in response to Re: Re: PeteE, posted by Dean on Jan 1, 2004

She didn't leave...she was divorced & sent home.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: PeteE, posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

Mikey said that she demanded a lot of attention. Duh. Living in a new country might cause that. Or maybe it was Mikey's obsessing with her cousins boobs. . . . he he he he.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: PeteE, posted by Ralph on Jan 2, 2004

great post Ralph!!!!!!!!!!!  All you have to do is visit his personal web-site and you definitely get the picture that he's not the kind of guy who gives attention to a woman, just expects it..........a man with a large ego is surely an understatement when describing Mikey.......

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PeteE, posted by beenthere on Jan 3, 2004

In the early days he posted about taking a knife to Cali and sounded like he was actually hoping to get to use it. He talke d about how superior he was at handling a knife than all the thugs in colombia.

He also posted a pic of hi,self with his shirt off while threatening me once. Talk about funny. . . . .If one is such a
bad #ss why would you need to carry a knife. I've had knives pulled on me twice.  One guy I just walked right at and he put it away. The other learned that a chair makes a better weapon. . . . . he he he he.

Even when he was with his wife, he was obsessed with Olga "the big O's" breasts. I bet his wife apreciated that. . . . . . . .
He is certainly a guy that is "all about me". All the dojo stuff is certainly to make up for other . . . . .uh. . . .shortcomings.

... in response to he he he he, posted by Ralph on Jan 3, 2004

Guess what.............he just threatened me with a personal e-mail..........today he also posted a semi-nude picture of himself on gringo.com.............the only funny thing was he was somewhat thick around the middle...............pretty scary guy for a "born again" Christian.............I feel sorry for his ex-wife.........I'm sure she had a rough time of it.

... in response to Re: he he he he, posted by beenthere on Jan 3, 2004

I'm not sure what sending a picture of himself with no shirt on is supposed to accomplish. The best part is when he was posting that pic for me to see he was doing so to defend houndog. Very romantic. . . . . .  .he he he he

... in response to Re: Re: Re: PeteE, posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

I forgot what you said before but what had happened between you and
your wife?

... in response to PeteE, posted by JunFan on Dec 31, 2003

Chill your rockets, JunFan.  Don't be so mean.  It's a new year, so just relax and let's all have some fun, eh?  

Big B

... in response to Re: PeteE, posted by bigbdm4 on Jan 1, 2004

[This message has been edited by DallasSteve2]

Big B

I hope that the person who posted these words to Pete E will also heed your advice:

"And please protect your typing finger, or was that two fingers? I mean, if you had an accident and broke it, what then would you do to insult the world which respects women and does not abuse them the way you do?"

Oh wait.  Those words were posted by you!  

Happy New Year.

Steve

... in response to Re: Re: PeteE, posted by DallasSteve2 on Jan 1, 2004

Well, I don't mean to sound like I'm taking cheap shots at poor PeteE...but I guess I am.  And for good reason.

Anyone that has so openly discussed his situation should be able to answer some of the tough questions that are naturally gonna come up.

Let's face it, when the going got tough, PeteE ran away from his problems & responsibilities.  It's the PeteE's of the world that cost the rest of us USA taxpayers money.  Who do you think will pay for the assistance his ex-wife may apply for?  Who do you think pays for the public schools that her daughters will attend?  Healthcare of the uninsured?  It's not PeteE, because he flew the coup when the chips were down.  It will be the rest of us that are left here to clean up his mess.

The manly thing to have done would have been to sell the house, pay off all his debts, divorce his wife, and settle the community property & alimony according to the laws of California.

I have a feeling that his poor story is far from over.  When the going starts getting tough for his ex, don't think she won't be getting an attorney.

... in response to just calling a spade a spade..., posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

Mike,
Coming from a gentleman who has been "born again" and who himself has been a failure at the MOB scene I would think you would be a bit more circumspect about being judgmental. I fail to see how your post adds anything to the situation, Pete has made his choices and your input will not change the situation.

While I may agree that Pete could have handled things differently, one doesn't get to old age without making some mistakes. The story isn't over. While I don't air my private life on this forum, certainly those who read your story and Pete's can take cautionary lessons from them. Those who read these stories, but will not learn, are doomed to follow the same path.

... in response to Re: Let he who is w/o sin cast the first..., posted by NW Jim on Jan 1, 2004

The karate kid will surely be threatening you with bodily harm shortly. . . . .he he he he. Born again. . . . . once was enough.

... in response to be careful, posted by Ralph on Jan 1, 2004

....tough man Ralph from San Antonio riding to the rescue.

... in response to oh, it's you again..., posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

I don't live in SA any more. I lived most of my life in NY. So before you start talking about how big dallas is better than SA. . . . . .

I live in Santo Domingo now. So lighten up danielsan.

... in response to Re: Let he who is w/o sin cast the first..., posted by NW Jim on Jan 1, 2004

Everytime someone points a finger, there are four fingers pointing back at them.

... in response to Re: Re: Let he who is w/o sin cast the f..., posted by valuedcustomer on Jan 1, 2004

Or is it three?

... in response to Re: Let he who is w/o sin cast the first..., posted by NW Jim on Jan 1, 2004

Well, NWJim....

I am always amazed at how people confuse criticizing with judging.

But you are right, I did fail in my situation.  But when it ended, I confronted the situation like a man & dealt with the details as painful as they were....I didn't run and hide.  I was very generous with my ex, to the point she was able to go back to Colombia & buy a condo that she has rented out, and used the rent collected to pay her way through college, and hopefully have some better opportunities for herself in Colombia.

... in response to Touche', posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

I would not necessarily say that you failed JunFan. Life is just a group of experiences... you live, learn and move on. You lived, you learned and you've moved on. C'est la vie.

... in response to Touche', posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

Because you took handled things differently that makes you a better man? Although I believe that Pete could have handled things differently, I would have him in my corner anyday than someone like yourself that sits in a corner and casts dispersion.
Hope you get what you put out in your life.
JSlo

... in response to Re: Touche', posted by JSlo on Jan 1, 2004

No, it doesn't make me a better man necessarily. But that's not the issue of the thread.

However, I will say that you can tell alot about a man by observing the way he handles tough times & adversity.  Some men choose to run from their problems & avoid them while others choose to stand and deal with them properly.

It's called character.

... in response to Re: Re: Touche', posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

Seem to me you and yours lasted a whole 3 months...

Pete committed 10 times as much effort....

I would call that 10x as much character....

Dean

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Touche', posted by Dean on Jan 1, 2004

Heck...Pete was in counseling in the first few mos, because his wife didn't want to have sex with him.  He should have realized it then.  He would have been much better off if he had realized what was going on early.  Meanwhile he got used as a meal ticket and a doormat.

Here's a secret...If a woman loves a man, she tends to give him some... ;)

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Touche', posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

I knew that in my gut but didn't want to let her go.
Also we had a very bad counsoler who helped her hide the truth insted of getting it out of her.I had to be the one to phrase the question to get her to admit the truth,which she was finally willing to do after she got what she wanted.Before that is was lie and deny.But I knew better.
And I think you did the right thing ending it early.If it starts out bad not much chance it will get better.But I think your situation was  more volitle.Mine was more passive denial of problem.

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: Touche', posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

Yes, you can tell alot about the character of a person by observing their behaviour in times of adversity...

So, just what kind of person abandons their marriage after only a few months, sends their wife back to her home country in disgrace and chalks it up to experience??? I guess it's ok since you paid her off, right???

Character, yeah, right...

... in response to BS..., posted by wizard on Jan 1, 2004

"So, just what kind of person abandons their marriage after only a few months, sends their wife back to her home country in disgrace and chalks it up to experience??? "

A smart person.  I would say that I realized that I had made an obvious mistake, and needed to end it as soon as possible so that both of us could go on with our own lives.

... in response to Re: BS..., posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

Getting divorced for any reason other than adultery is a sin. You should know that, Preacher Mike.

... in response to Re: Re: Touche', posted by JunFan on Jan 1, 2004

But I find your analysis of the flight or fight syndrome as it related to Petey, I mean Pete E to be spiteful,inciteful and definitely not rightful.

... in response to Yes JunFan, You Are a Character, posted by burbuja2 on Jan 1, 2004

Good analysis. The fact that he is high-horsing is nothing short of hypocrisy of the highest form. Again, I want him to receive all that he deserves. I can safely say that his next experience/marriage will end with the same results as the first. I smell that stinking thinking from here, a check up from the neck up is in order preacher man.
JSlo

... in response to Re: Yes JunFan, You Are a Character, posted by JSlo on Jan 2, 2004

I know several girls in Dallas.  JunFan's problem isn't from the neck up, its from the waist down.

... in response to Sorry, JSlo, But You're Wrong, posted by burbuja2 on Jan 2, 2004

LMAO

... in response to Yes JunFan, You Are a Character, posted by burbuja2 on Jan 1, 2004

Junfan occasionally throws some barbs at Pete E.
History has shown most have been deserved.

The least of his problems is somebody slagging him on a website.

... in response to Re: Touche', posted by JSlo on Jan 1, 2004

I think alot of us would have handled it differently JSlo. I personally believe in the policy of "to thine own self be true." I would never sacrifice my credit..my name...my reputation just so my ex who could not give a d..n about me had a roof over her head, even if it meant having to start over with nothing. As for casting dispersion, I think its a good thing that we have some different perspectives on this board. From reading this board the last couple of years, i've found that the truth usually lies somewhere between the rose colored glasses and the doom and gloom.

... in response to Re: Re: Touche', posted by pirate on Jan 1, 2004

Just for the record, I think the phrase is "casting aspersions".  I'm not trying to make anyone look bad.  Just thought it was worth a clarification (and I'm hoping this thread will get longer).

Then again, maybe someone can "cast dispersions", too.  ;-)

Steve

... in response to NitPicker At Work, posted by DallasSteve2 on Jan 1, 2004

Thanks for the clarification. Calumniating or the act of injuring the reputation of another is casting Aspersion. Good catch!
JSlo

... in response to NitPicker At Work, posted by DallasSteve2 on Jan 1, 2004

I stand corrected Steve. (see how easy it is to get along here)

... in response to Re: PeteE, posted by bigbdm4 on Jan 1, 2004

Concur

... in response to Re: Re: PeteE, posted by Dean on Jan 1, 2004

Concur with bigbdm4

... in response to Re: Re: Re: PeteE, posted by Dean on Jan 1, 2004

Any thought on the best way to purchase a condo in Bogota...
We've located several units that we like and can afford...

I'm unfamiliar with the banking requirements and legal niceties of real estate purchase in colombia....

Looking in North Bogota, strata 3 or 4....
plenty of nice, new condos and apartments....

seems clear that the prices range from about 20,000 USD to 30,000 USD for a 3br/2ba strata 3 or 4...
600sq m to 900 sq m.

Approx 30% down...
Payment about 125USD to 150USD at current rates...

Thinking about payment in Dollars or Pesos...
leaning toward pesos at the moment...

Please comment...

Dean

... in response to condo purchase in Bogota, posted by Dean on Jan 1, 2004

900 sq meters is 9700 sq ft.I think you can by an appartment for that price,but its not going to be nearly that big.You might be off by a factor of 10.
970 sq,ft.?That would be small for a 3-2,but possible.
Its 10.79 sq ft/sq mt.

Pete

... in response to I think you got  your meters confused, posted by Pete E on Jan 1, 2004

Sorry, you're right...
60 to 90 meters squared...

I own real estate here in NC and used to in Ca, but I;m curious of the process of purchasing in Colombia...
Any real estate guidance would be appreciated...

Dean

... in response to Re: I think you got  your meters confuse..., posted by Dean on Jan 1, 2004

Dean,
Jim C just completed his purchase of a condo in Cartegena.He mentioned having trouble wiring his money in to Colombia.I think you need a lawyer to make sure you are protectected in this new and strange envirenment.I will get one to review my lease.
When I was in Panama city a lady from a title company did a presentation.They insure property in all of central america and several countries in south america.She said Coplombia did have an excellent legal system but they were not there because of fear of safety.

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: I think you got  your meters con..., posted by Pete E on Jan 1, 2004

Pete

I talked to a lawyer when I was in Cali about getting a visa so I could buy an apartment there.

I don't know how true it is but she told me I could get an investment visa based on the fact that I have traveled to Colombia well over 20 times. When I told her that I want to buy an apartment she said I should buy the apartment and then apply for the visa. Sounds backwards to me but I remember Travel saying he had to buy his business before he could get his business visa.

Anyway I'm going to go to DAS with this lawyer when I go back in March. Maybe she knows who to pay off. She got me married without a marriage visa so maybe she can get me an investment visa without an investment.

If you hear anything about buying property down there without a visa, I would like to know about it.

Update on the the girl I was going out with while I was in Cali. I gave her 500,000 pesos so she could get by thru Jan. Well, she already blew that and now she has nothing. H2O was right when he said a girl like that that doesn't have any experiance will lose her money in a couple days. Also she lied to the land lady and said that I left her with nothing so she lent her 100,000 pesos. I told the land lady it was a lie and not to lend her anymore money because I'm not going to pay her back. So she is going to have to get by on what ever she has for the next two weeks and then I'm going to try sending her only half of her monthly salary to see if she can manage her money better.

The minute she really screws up and sells the furniture or TV in the apartment is the moment I will dump her. I hope H2O's predictions don't come true because then I won't be able to stay in the apartment when I go back. Got an extra room in your new apartment???? I might need a place to stay.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I think you got  your meters..., posted by Calipro on Jan 2, 2004

Furniture, TV, cellphone, rent, maybe clothes, food and money every month? This girl is rather expensive. And you only see her about 1 month a year?

... in response to Expensive!, posted by mar33 on Jan 2, 2004

It isn't my furniture or cellphone the food comes out of the $150 a month.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I think you got  your meters..., posted by Calipro on Jan 2, 2004

Calipro,
  Watch out for women who always have a sob story. There seems an abundance out there. It is always someone elses fault that are in a bad  finacial situation. Never theirs.The fact she was willing to lie about you to her landlady and make you look bad is a RED Flag.She lies! The biggest red flag of all. She does not care about you, just what you can give her.
   My friends and I were talking one day about how most cute women under 25 in the U.S (and everywhere I guess) are so predictable after a few weeks of dating,they start giving you a sob story about their rent, car payment, or some other bill not being able to get paid. It works like clockwork and usually happens a couple of weeks after you start sleeping with her.
   How in the world did most of these girls survive before? It seems they think we are an ATM,and they are entitled .
   When I decided to look for a wife. I made sure she was motivated, educated as well as beautiful. They are out there. Believe me. I want someone who can at least take care of herself and is not so dependent on me. Getting ahead in life financially is hard enough.
  Look what happened to Pete. It took 1 person to ruin his credit and his investments.
 

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: I think you got  your me..., posted by mar33 on Jan 2, 2004

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The last three days I was in Cali she never left my side. I always count my money before I go to bed or take a shower. Well after I took a shower one night I counted my money and I was a 20,000 peso short. I told her never take money from me again without asking or I'll break her fingers.

RED FLAG!! Hey I never said I loved her because I don't lie. But, she lies and says she loves me all the time. Kind of cute actually. Anyway it really doen't matter what she says or does she only going to get $150 a month. She is a girlfriend nothing more , nothing less. I'll be down in Cali in early March to spend time with her. If anybody is going to be in town, feel free to give me a call.

I don't think Pete's situation really aplies to me. I'm not that nice of a guy.

... in response to She steals to!!, posted by Calipro on Jan 2, 2004

Look at dude... my last wife was that way...stole from her mother... lied
to me all the time... cut her loose as soon as possible... what will you do
if she gets knocked up?

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I think you got  your meters..., posted by Calipro on Jan 2, 2004

Man, don't you see it?  How can you be so blind to the choice of women you make?  Going after a woman strictly because she is the hottest one you can get just isn't working for you.  It is the same thing over and over for you.  Find hot babe.  Hot babe screws up or screws you over.  Drop hot babe.  Find another hot babe.  Repeat process.  

With your choices it will never be: Find hot babe who is a good woman but maybe not the hottest possible.  Have good life with hot babe.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: I think you got  your me..., posted by lswote on Jan 2, 2004

First you have to give them a little rope to hang themselves with or you will never know. Most of these young women are not evil just a little dumb. Will see what happens if she can make it till March I'll be happy. If she can make it throught March I have plans for her but she will never be coming here.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I think you got  you..., posted by Calipro on Jan 2, 2004

Calipro, why would you want a woman you will only be with a few weeks a year?  Even the US Postal Service can't have that great of a vacation deal. I can't imagine you getting much more than 4 weeks a year vacation where you can visit Cali, so what about the other 48 weeks of the year when you are stuck in the US?  I know you have talked of other women in other places besides Colombia to help you pass the time when you are not in Cali, but this just doesn't seem like much of a life to me, no matter how beautiful the women are or loving in the sack.  My wife went back to Bogota yesterday because she is having our baby there and will be gone for about the next 3 months and for me it is like my life just stopped and I am just spinning my wheels until she returns to me.  I can't imagine how you would enjoy your situation no matter how hot and pleasurable the women are.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I think you got ..., posted by lswote on Jan 2, 2004

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The real reason I am even messing around with this girl is because the intimate relationship with her is very, very good and she doen't mind if I see other women (or so she says). I don't feel like have to hide a thing from her.

Vaction time is like this. I have 208 hours of anual leave a year plus eleven paid holidays that I usually work if I'm not already on vaction because if I work them I can use the time as vaction time. The way it works out is I can take 7 nine day vactions to Cali a year and still have 2 days left over.

Iswote

I'm a single guy. I'm exactly sitting on my hands here in the U.S. waiting for my next trip to Cali so I can have some fun. I don't travel to Cali because I can't get a date here in the U.S. I travel to Cali because I really prefer women from Cali. There is a difference!! And one day I'll bring another one back but it won't be this girl ( I don't think!).

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I think you got  your meters..., posted by Calipro on Jan 2, 2004

First I have to get an apartment,but good chance.I better have one by then,I'm sure I will.
H2-Oh is a little cynical but it comes from lots of Colombian experience.He is usually right.I immagine it has occured to you what could be going on in the apartment you paid for.Seems she is not in to playing you for the long run which is probably good for you.How did she spend 500,000 pesos?She is  just probably is telling you that to get more. And how did this poor chica get a cell phone and what does she need it for?
I know this wasn't a long term plan for you but you expected it to last through your next vacation at which point it could make financial sence.
But for screw ups mine has to be the costliest one I know of.

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: I think you got  your me..., posted by Pete E on Jan 2, 2004

No I believe she doesn't have much money left. Anyway it really doesn't matter what she says or does. She is on the $150 a month plan and she will never get more if she can't manage on that first. Also, I told the land lady she was on her own about collecting the 100,000 pesos she borrowed from her because I wasn't going to pay her. She seemed a little upset but Oh Well!!

Used sell phones are cheap in Cali. You can buy one for 60000 pesos. I guess the cell phone makes them feel important. It's good when you want to call them. But she rarely has any minutes to call somebody else.