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I just had dinner with a couple of friends and novias.These girls are really right there for them,pay attention to them,ave very affectionate and attentive.And I don't think either one will be getting any migrane headache or I'm so tired stories.Both of them seemed  pretty concerned that they could just hang on to what they had.Some of the jealousy stories were pretty funny,but that could get old if unwarrented.
I am thinking to myself why did I put up with all that half hearted pretend and excuse nonsense?There are so many girls here who want a good man so bad they will give him no nonsense at all.You can just tell they really want this guy.
So my advice(do what I say,not what I did) is don't accept anything less than a girl that is crazy about you.At the FIRST SIGN  you have less than that DUMP HER.For me that should  have been week one,not week 180 or so.Don't be understanding and patient in the area of love, affection or sex,this should be a no compromise zone.Being a nice guy here will just get you mistreated.
NEVER NEVER again will I tolerate anything REMOTELY close to what I did in my previous marriage.I think I got that lesson BIG TIME.
As predicted by CP,I must thank my ex wife for turning it from bad to awfull so I would finaly be motivated to get the hell out.
Its good to get a Cali perspective again.We can get so used to being mistreated in the US we sort of get used to it and accept it.

Pete

... in response to Accept no half hearted nonsence, posted by Pete E on Jan 2, 2004

You like other Guys put up with CRAP from the Woman becuz she's all you got in America, hard for us old Farts to find a Young beautiful Woman here. We gotta learn to let Her go early, if she's withholding sex etc..Your mistake is that You put up with her MESS too long. Glad your finally enjoying yourself. I hope to visit Colombia someday myself.

... in response to Accept no half hearted nonsence, posted by Pete E on Jan 2, 2004

I have always said my number one criteria when looking for a women is she needs to be CRAZY about me. I will not put in too much effort pursuing them. Trying to win them over etc etc etc.

I have 2 failed marriages but can honestly say they both loved me very much as I loved them. Things didn't work out, but I have zero regrets.

If you have to ask if a latina loves you. . . . .she doesn't.

... in response to Accept no half hearted nonsence, posted by Pete E on Jan 2, 2004

Pete

You said a mouthful there. I am exactly at that point with my wife right now. It is good to know that all Cali women are not like our wives and that you are seeing it first hand. Gives me hope that there still might be the right woman for me in Colombia afterall.

Andy

... in response to Accept no half hearted nonsence, posted by Pete E on Jan 2, 2004

Hi,

   I usually post on the Asian board, but you post here is right on target...Men should take a minute and THINK!
It's a big world out there...

 Nathan

... in response to Accept no half hearted nonsence, posted by Pete E on Jan 2, 2004

After what I went thru I too do not accept any crap... I was writing about
4 diffeent girls at one point and got rid of everyone of them because they
could not be honest with me. I could not get them to tell me even the
littlest of things so I did not waste my time. I am not going thru what I
did with the last girl.  My girl was affectionate but I feel it was another
man she had in her mind but oh well I hope she is happy. I do not put up
with the crap now. The one girl I do write to tells me everthing and
knows that I will not put up with being dishonest with me. Good luck
Pete with those girls down there don't let them eat you alive :-)

... in response to I feel you are 100% right, posted by Fuzzyone on Jan 3, 2004

If a girl really cares for you she will probably be honest,and its easy for her because she has nothing to hide.But if she doesn't really care for you but perhaps still wants your attention for whatever purpose you can get the biggest helping of lies denial and rational.And my experience is it is nearly impossible for them to admit they lied or were wrong,so you will get one creative concoction of BS subject changing and other nonsense to avoid telling the truth.

Pete

... in response to Honesty can be hard to come by in latina..., posted by Pete E on Jan 3, 2004

I already went thru that experience, the funny thing about it was when I
first started to catch here in those little white lies I did not say anything
because I thought hey no big deal but they got bigger and bigger, until I
realized that was all that was told. I also found what I thought was kinda
of funny was the use of" I am sorry" now everything is forgiven and we
can go back to the way it was. This included everything including sex
with another man.

... in response to Re: Honesty can be hard to come by in la..., posted by Fuzzyone on Jan 3, 2004

In my experience lies from women tend to come from brick walls in their personality; we all tend to be in denial of certain things.  The aforementioned 'latina temper' was also connected to this.

I just finished reading '100 years of Solitude' by Marquez, which wass like 450pp of poetry for me.  The story is rife with (Colombians) acting out every concievable human drama.  What it made me think of, and why I mention it here, is that I am struck by the recent absence of irrationality(?) that breaking up with my LW gf has caused in my life.

While I don't want to say "she lied", lets say I was disappointed, and so was she, by the brick walls in the personality.  With some time and with the help of Marquez (a gift from her no less), the foibles of her behavior seem smaller to me.

Ultimately, I am missing the latina insanity and am looking forward to a fresh treatment.  Perhaps seeing my AW exwife and  hometown over the holidays and finding the grating AW behavior here everywhere in Key West also reminded me how much I miss the latina way.

Since I can't break away from here immediately, I guess I might even buy some addresses, which I have not ever done before.  Does insanity work well over the internet?  lol.

Ciao

... in response to Re: Re: Honesty can be hard to come by i..., posted by Locii on Jan 4, 2004

I really think that my ex wife was brought up she was allowed to lie
and steal any time she wanted. Her family at one point had alot of money
but when the father died they no longer had the huge pay days they had
before. She was use to having a maid to wait on her so she never had to
learn how to cook. I had warnings... red flags before I married her but
being the thick skulled man I am I did not pay attention to them. I had
read here about many red flags but I thought I knew better. I paid for
that mistake but I have learned too. I happen to love latin woman so I am
back on the hunt and plan to go to Colombia in April.