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[This message has been edited by Calipro]

Just to give you guys a heads up, I think beenthere has finally snapped. I don't know if it was my doing or Jim C's but I don't think he is ration at this point. Don't ask me how he got it but at the bottom of the message is my ex-wifes cel. number. But, since beenthere has it you guys might as well have to!!!

Beenthere

I have gone down to the prostie club down the street from the Inter. with a couple of guys on the TLC tour but I didn't buy anything. You can just shoot the bull with the guys and have a drink you know. Also I don't know anything about Alberto's prostie concierge service at Traveler's Suites so why don't you (beenthere) fill us all in. Also I don't know any Patrica so tell us about her to while you are at it.

P.S. beenthere quit calling people up and talking about me to people in Cali. They already think you are CRAZY and now I do to. See you in Cali just don't freak out all right. Take it easy and take a pill or something.

Chao, Calipro

HERE IS THE E-MAIL BEENTHERE SENT ME.

 

To: calipro2003@nospam.com
Subject: shame on you
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:19:41 -0500 (COT)
From: gerry2003@caliescali.com | This is spam | Add to Address Book
     

Wayne,

Shame on you for posting on planet love that you NEVER pay for sex!!  
Remember when
we talked in cali and you told me you frequented that prostie club down
the street from
the Inter??.  Also I know all about the prostie concierge service at
Travelers Suites.  Just
let Alberto know what you want, and he sends it up to you.  What was
her
name??.........Patricia right???  150,000 pesos,.... from what I
understand she's into
fantasies.  but don't worry Calipro, I would never post any info like
this on planet love.  
I'll play along with you that all of those women you hang with are
lovers of yours, not
prosties.  Just cut the crap........................oh by the way Diana
Tobar (you remember her
don't you wayne??) she e-mailed me the other day and invited me to her
wedding. She's
marrying a guy from Norway.  Since you're an ex-lover and good friend
of hers I assumed
that she invited you too.  But when I talked to her on the phone last
night and
mentioned your name, she got rather furious and said she NEVER wanted
to hear your
name again. Post that Wayne!!(sure all the women have forgiven you)  
Your BS might
work for SOME of the poor losers on PL, and down at the post office,
but it's not working
on the people who REALLY know you and your motives.  See you in Cali in
December!!!
Don't worry, be happy!!!
Beenthere

Oh, by the way Wayne, does this phone # look familiar to you?  
602-330-6542

... in response to Beenthere has gone over the edge!!!, posted by Calipro on Sep 27, 2003

[This message has been edited by Cali James]

Hey Calipro,

My problem with your posting is that sometimes you don't have the good sense not to.  This is an example of that in my opinion. A private email sent to you doesn't need to be revealed to the world through this forum.  Most of us don't particularly care about your personal problems with another board member.  I know he tattled on you to some Calenas but it was at least a private matter between the two of you and your Calena amigas until you tattled on him right here on Planet Love.

I think we'd all be better off if the two of you battled each other through private email.

Cali James

... in response to Re: Beenthere has gone over the edge!!!, posted by Cali James on Sep 29, 2003

It sounds like you think I deserve to have some nut still calling people up and bad mouthing me and sending me weird e-mails. I don't have a personal problem with beenthere. Didn't you read his post where he says we have only spoken 50 words. By far the most contact I have had with him is on this board and this board isn't private. I wrote the whole picture thing off a long time ago so I have to disagree with you and Iswote when you say there is a battle or that I don't like him. I really don't have a thing against the guy. Actually I feel a little sorry for him. If that letter isn't a cry for help I don't know what is and the only thing you guys seem to be able to do is be critical of me. So you are right about one thing posting his e-mail doesn't seem to be doing any good but a guarantee you there is nothing personal about our relationship so you all are more than welcome to it.

... in response to Beenthere has gone over the edge!!!, posted by Calipro on Sep 27, 2003

Calipro, why are sharing this on a public forum?  I can't see anywhere beenthere posted this on the board.  He emailed you directly and no matter how bizarre the email might be it seems it is a personal matter between you two.

... in response to What did I miss here?, posted by lswote on Sep 28, 2003

[This message has been edited by Calipro]

Or at least I hope it isn't a personal matter between us two! What did I ever do to the guy?
Besides up until now the only contact I have had with him has been through this board. I did break down this morning and send him an e-mail to try and find out if he is really crazy or just drunk at the time.
Besides in the e-mail he kind of dared me to post it anyway. Didn't he say "post this Wayne" somewhere in the e-mail?

... in response to No it isn't!!, posted by Calipro on Sep 28, 2003

Hmmm, if you are that easily suggestible, then I kind of dare you to send me all your money.

... in response to Re: No it isn't!!, posted by lswote on Sep 28, 2003

[This message has been edited by Calipro]

Iswote

I don't know why you are sticking up for beenthere now because I don't really remember you supporting him in the past. Maybe if you had he wouldn't have snapped!! I have always heard that people could go crazy playing a ouiji board alone but who would have ever thought you could go crazy playing the planet-love board. HeHeHe!!

... in response to Don't bother.., posted by Calipro on Sep 28, 2003

I never supported beenthere, but I did support his idea that it was not correct to post women's pictures in the manner you did.  On the other hand I supported you for not being hypocritical about your dating approach.  I think people can be right sometimes and wrong sometimes and in this case I think both you and beenthere have made this argument between you personal to the point you are both wrong at times in the way you handle it (though I realize from my feud with Aaron that there sometimes is no right way to deal with someone you don't like).  However I feel that your response to what he said was mostly something that should have been said privately to him.  While he might have dared you to make it public, it doesn't make you right to do it.  I guess if you had stopped with the part he dared you to post I could understand.  But I was uncomfortable when you identified the phone number at the end of the message as your ex-wife's as his taunting was rather crytic and I doubt any of us would have known who it was if you hadn't come out and said it.  Your revealing it made me feel I was privvy to more than I cared to be privvy to.

... in response to Beenthere has gone over the edge!!!, posted by Calipro on Sep 27, 2003

[This message has been edited by Calipro]

can tell me where this message originated from. Here's the info from the top of the e-mail.

X-Apparently-To: calipro2003@nospam.com via 66.218.79.94; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:15:16 -0700
Return-Path:  
Received: from 66.128.32.131 (HELO apolo.caliescali.com) (66.128.32.131) by mta150.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:15:16 -0700
Received: (qmail 3453 invoked by uid 99); 26 Sep 2003 15:19:41 -0000
To: calipro2003@nospam.com
Subject: shame on you
Message-ID:  
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:19:41 -0500 (COT)
From: gerry2003@caliescali.com | This is spam | Add to Address Book
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.0
X-Originating-IP: 65.80.89.187
Content-Length: 872

... in response to Hey maybe one of you computer wizards..., posted by Calipro on Sep 28, 2003

CaliPro

Here is a link to lookup the source of Internet URLs:

http://www.arin.net/whois/

I entered the first one (66.218.79.94) and it returned a Yahoo! address in California.  That's not the original sender.

I entered the second one (66.128.32.131) and it returned an ISP in Montevideo, Uruguay.  Do you know someone in Uruguay?

Hope that helps.

CompuPro

... in response to Try this, posted by DallasSteve2 on Sep 28, 2003

[This message has been edited by Calipro]

I input: 65.80.89.187 for the originating IP and it came up Atlanta ,GA.
Thats where beenthere lives!!! I knew it had to be him.

... in response to Re: Try this, posted by Calipro on Sep 28, 2003

the ISP for the account. Bell is the owner of that IP address. That's why it lists contact info for subpoenas below. There is NO guarantee that the person who sent you this is in Atlanta.

... in response to All that tells you is, posted by surfscum on Sep 28, 2003

Although, I'm a programmer, I'm not sure what whois tells you.  Do you know?  

I assumed that it identifies the location of the ISP which launched the message and not the location of the corporate office.  The users of the ISP would probably live in that area.  Who wants to pay long distance charges every time they dial into an ISP?

Am I missing something here?

Steve

... in response to Re: All that tells you is, posted by DallasSteve2 on Sep 28, 2003

It just tells you who is the owner for that IP address, not the originating source.

Since I use Sprint, ARIN shows Sprint's address in Kansas for my IP, but I live in the SF Bay Area.  And Dorothy, I am NOT in Kansas!

What we don't know is how Bell South designed their network, but I ASSUME that all users receive an IP address in the range listed on ARIN.

I work on LAN's, but this is a WAN issue. I'm sure there are tools that will give you more info, but that's beyond me. You have to be a hacker to follow this because the ISP blocks tools that can be used for tracing traffic. You would have to sniff, spoof and I don't know what else to get to the source, but it is done all the time by security experts and hackers.

... in response to Beenthere has gone over the edge!!!, posted by Calipro on Sep 27, 2003

Calipro,
Two thoughts.
1.Is this really him?Even though he was argumemtative before he always seemed logical and stable.
2.Second thought sounds like this person is drunk or out of it.Maybe he did a post after drinking too much.I've done that before and I was sorry I did.Kind of felt like giving you guys a sad story tonight but I will wait untill I can be more possitive about it.
Before he sounded like a guy that let a difference of opinion get too him.This doesn't sound the same.
But Aaron was reasonable for a few months before he went over the top.I considered him one of my buddies in a way
and then he went on a negative spiral,flamming me as well as others.
Ever read an Ed Beckwith rant? He hasn't done it here for a couple of years.He's a big time boozer I think and he would come out with a nasty negative rant that had the same flavor as this one.Just trying to get at people,put them down,himself up.Over the top and out of it.Out of control.
???.Doesn't sound like the same Beenthere who sounded more reasonable.Even Though I like Jim I give him about 50% responsibility in the flame war.

Pete

... in response to Re: Beenthere has gone over the edge!!!, posted by Pete E on Sep 28, 2003

[This message has been edited by Calipro]

I think it's beenthere. The only thing that would make me question this is than in the e-mail he implies that the women in the photos were prostitues and before he always claimed to defend these women not bad mouth them.
The girl he mentioned (Diana) I know he knows her for a fact. But you are right I think he was drunk or crazy when he wrote the e-mail.
I always said I was more fearful of the nuts on this board then FARC. What kind of a nut would go to the trouble to find out my ex-wifes phone number. He probably thinks it is some kind of a threat to me that he has it. I'm not to worried about it. He won't be the first nut that called her.

... in response to Re: Re: Beenthere has gone over the edge..., posted by Calipro on Sep 28, 2003

Perhaps he IS drunk or crazy (and he's certainly been rude and downright mean at times, I'm still mad at him for his insults to Bruces' wife), but why does that make YOU think we should all have your ex-wife's phone number? Couldn't you have xxxx'd it out? If she wanted the public to have it, she'd post it on her web site. Be a good guy, go edit that message to remove her phone number.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Beenthere has gone over the ..., posted by Michael B on Sep 28, 2003


Calipro,

I have to agree with Michael about revealing your ex-wife's phone number.  I might also add that I have to question your motive for posting a private email that was sent to you here on the board.  All it does is add more fuel to the fire, don't you think?  Perhaps a better alternative is dealing with it off the board or ignoring it altogether.

Pablo

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Beenthere has gone over ..., posted by pablo on Sep 28, 2003

You are right I should have edited the phone # out of the message. But, What fire? the only comunication that I have had with beenthere is through this board and I think responding directly to weird e-mails like this would do more harm than good. I'll let you guys be the judge. Maybe beenthere will deny he even sent the e-mail but I don't know how anyone else would know that girl's name.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Beenthere has gone over the ..., posted by Michael B on Sep 28, 2003

The message is to old to edit now. Besides if she gets enough weird messages maybe she'll have the number changed. What could be worst than a drunken beenthere calling up in the middle of the night to rant about calipro anyway. The guy is starting to give me the creeps.