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Here are some photos of women in a modeling agency right down the street from All Colombian Girls. The agency is called Latin Modelos. Who says you have to go to a marriage agency to meet nice caleñas. I think I'm going to pass by this place when I'm in Cali. Anybody want to split the fees? We could have our own private photo shoot!

I wish you guys could see these pictures in high resolution. But, this was the best I could do.

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=2241633&uid=1152368

... in response to Quick Look!!, posted by Calipro on Jun 11, 2003

I suggest Calipro you take everyone of my photos of that site. Hey, it's up to you, but I already let picturetrail know about this. The photos are copyrighted. If you had used one or two or even 20, no problem, but you are using entire galleries. That just ain't right.
Also, we are not an introduction agency. If you show up to meet one of the models, you will be shown the door.
We aren't an unfriendly sort, but I really don't like the fact that you suggest that this is some kind of introduction service.
So, not to be rude guys, but please don't show up here looking to meet someone, we won't help you with that.
Later. Out

... in response to Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Traveller on Jun 11, 2003

OK Traveller

I took the pictures down. Just trying to drum up a little business for you but I can see it wasn't appreciated. I didn't mean and I don't think anybody who went to your web site would think that you are running an introduction service.

What ever happen to your Big Dog tours when you were inviting guys to go down and take pictures of the models. It must have been a very bad experience.

You seem a little up tight about guys meeting your models but two of them I know belong to marriage agencies. Although
I would have been interested in hiring a couple of your models to do a promotion on travel to Cali, forget it. If you really think they are better off dealing with colombian business men, be my guest.

However, I would still be interested in posibly renting a studio so I could shoot some other women. How much would you charge for say a half day shoot.

... in response to Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Calipro on Jun 11, 2003

Didn't look like you were trying to drum up business, looks like you were giving the whole site away for free. You know, that takes hours and hours and hours of work to do that, then someone just goes ahead and gives it away. You put yourself in my shoes.
Yeah, you might have been well intentioned but the bottom line is, you didn't ask permission.
You don't think anyone would think I was running an introduction agency? So, why this remark? "Who says you have to go to a marriage agency to meet nice caleñas. I think I'm going to pass by this place when I'm in Cali." You make that statement and look what happens someone else makes a comment that you can probably more for a "booking fee." Just started to snowball, so yeah, I have to say something.
So. Two models belong to agencies. Actually, it's probably closer to 5 or 6. And, what does that mean, they can't have a private life? If they belong to an agency, go there to meet them. Just because they belong to an agency does not mean you can go their work and meet them.
Since no one has heard from me for awhile, I'll fill you in. No, I do not work with Norm any longer. No, I did not take photos for any other marriage agency other than the one I had for a brief time. No, I do not run GranModelos or ZonaModelos any longer, only LatinModelos. Yes, I am in negotiations with an American TV show in the Bahamas. Yes, I work for an Australian Version of Maxim. Yes, I am working on that deal with a Vodka Company. Yes, I have a business owners VISA.  What else have  I heard?
You know, I would have loved to have written stuff about my agency / school here and posted the link so you can see some rather nice Calenas, but I figured I would have gotten some guff about it, so I just never posted and I did not want to mislead anyone. But, apparently it was done for me, so Claipro, thank you.
If you are interested in photo shoots: Ok, let's clear this up. Yes, you can do photo shoots and that is posted on the booking link. BUT, you have to be associated with a project. Next, the photos will be taken here in the office provided there are not modeling clases or English classes going on. Next, there will be someone from the office present while photos are being shot. Next, prior to the shoot, the photographer, the model, and an agency representative will discuss what kinds of photos will be taken. If all is agreed upon and shoot time will be scheduled. At the time of the shoot a model release and copyright release will be signed at the booking fees paid.
So, it's not just showing up with a camera and taking a few shots.
Well, hate to sound like a downer, but this is a tough business and you gotta kind of stand up for it now and again. But hey, when we do the modeling casting for the TV show, I'll let you know.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Traveller on Jun 11, 2003

n/t

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Traveller on Jun 11, 2003

Instead of going to a modeling agency, you could sit at Reggae & Pop Cafe and meet girls, make sure you are wearing a cap with big letters "DAS" on the cap.

... in response to Another way- advice from Keith, posted by bogota vet1 on Jun 11, 2003

Big bold letters on your cap at DAS or DEA ???

I cannot recall which one Keith (Traveller)uses, he will have to tell you.

... in response to Another way- advice from Keith, posted by bogota vet1 on Jun 11, 2003

Why?

Are guys that work for the Departamento Administrativo de Seguridad really popular?

My DEA cap doen't seem to be getting me any special treatment.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Traveller on Jun 11, 2003

Listen, Traveller

I'm sorry I posted your photos and I'm not going to give you a hard time about taking this thing way to seriously, after all it is your livelihood.

The reason that I made the comment:  "Who says you have to go to a marriage agency to meet nice caleñas" is because I am writing to this audience. Do you really think there are going to be guys waiting at your office door tomorrow morning wanting to meet your models? If there are let me know because then I'm really sorry and I'll owe you one.

As you probably know other modeling agencies in Cali are not all that easy to deal with and I'm not sure yours is going to be any easier. Lets just try the studio rental first if it is available.

And yes I would be interested in seeing what showed up for your model casting for the TV show.

          Have a better day.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Calipro on Jun 11, 2003

Actually, yes. It has happened several times before already, without any publicity. You know, I got a couple of Gringos in shorts just kind of looking around once while we were having a casting for a show. They were real surprised when another Gringo came in and asked them if I could help them. "Oh, we were just looking around" What happened was, they saw a model on my website and they wanted to know if they could meet her. Exactly, what you described happened. The model was a marriage agency website and on my modeling site. So, instead of going to the marriage agency and paying whatever fee to meet her, they thought she might just be hanging out in the lobby or in class and they could meet her for free. They were promptly shown the door. So yes, this kind of stuff does happen.
Second, it is a well known fact that with enough money you can go to some other (nameless) modeling agencies and get a date. We aren't one of them. I think, that one even has an introduction service.
Hey, I invite you to come down and take a look. Just as long as it's upfront, we aren't going to hook you up. We have an idea in the process that you all might be interested in (no, not a marriage or introduction agency) and that might be ready in August sometime. If you come by, I'll let you in on the secret.
Talk to you all later.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Traveller on Jun 12, 2003

Idea in process that's not a marriage or introduction agency?
Secret?  We're back to the mysterious booking fee again!

(Just trying my best to keep this topic friendly :)

... in response to Hmmm...., posted by cancunhound on Jun 12, 2003

Dude, just stop. And, people wonder why I stopped writing on this board. Geez! So, why are we back to the booking fee? My idea has nothing to do with women, whores, modeling, females in general, womens clothing, photos, cameras, websites, marriage agencies, introduction services, or anything along that line. What's the problem? Because I work with models in Colombia and I have a legitimate business idea that I think some of the "regulars" and "first timers" who come down here might enjoy, it has to do with prostitutes or something? Never occurred to you that it's a secret because I don't want someone finding out about it so they don't copy the idea?
No, you're right.  I am up to something fishy. Let's just leave it at that and you can believe whatever you want.
The rest of you will be welcome when we open up.

... in response to Re: Hmmm...., posted by Traveller on Jun 12, 2003

NYA NYA  I KNOW A SECRET.
    HI KEITH why don't you email your latest Tx to me at Barriserh@aol.com so I can call and catch up. I am in negotiations for the past two days and almost have a settlement. I might have money and freedom again. regardless I will see you soon. JIM

... in response to Re: Re: Hmmm...., posted by jim c on Jun 12, 2003

The email got bounced back. Is that the right address?

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Hmmm...., posted by Traveller on Jun 12, 2003

actually I screwed up and missed a letter Barristerh@aol.com jim

... in response to Re: Re: Hmmm...., posted by jim c on Jun 12, 2003

Hi Jim. Check your email.
See you when you get here.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Traveller on Jun 11, 2003

n/t

... in response to Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Traveller on Jun 11, 2003

I do not think that he intended to do any harm or to infringe on anyone's copywright protection.   The intent was to show the members of this board the physical beauty of the Cali women

Beattledog

... in response to Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Traveller on Jun 11, 2003

Seems like trouble follows CaliPro wherever he goes................

... in response to Quick Look!!, posted by Calipro on Jun 11, 2003

Those models are from Keith's Millenium 3 Management, they have a huge upscale office on Avenida Sexta A.  They also have a about 15-20 websites (non-nude) that they run, granmodelos.com, zonamodelos.com, latinmodelos.com, etc.  I've seen most of the models, know some of them and there are some drop dead beauties in the group, local beauty contest winners, and some gals I've seen in national colombian magazines.  Have a good time in Cali, watch out for the whiplash!

... in response to Re: Quick Look!!, posted by thundernco on Jun 11, 2003

Is Keith the same guy that started out taking pictures of models at a marriage agency in Ingenio? I think the owner's name was Norm.

How does this guy make his money from the web sites or the modeling school and agency?

... in response to Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Calipro on Jun 11, 2003

Yep, they're partners in this venture.  $$ on both.

... in response to Quick Look!!, posted by Calipro on Jun 11, 2003

What kind of modeling agency charges a web membership fee to see photos of their models?  Hmmmm - I wonder what a "booking fee" covers!

... in response to Re: Quick Look!!, posted by cancunhound on Jun 11, 2003

excellent question!!!! As far as Aaron's post about there being better lookin women on the streets, I gotta see this.  Some day I will make it there.

... in response to Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by snap38 on Jun 11, 2003

Yup, you will see some everyday girls just walking around that look just as attractive and even better than those girls on that website; and not just in Cali, but other Colombian cities, too.

Guys don't realize that Bucaramanga is "A" capital for beautiful women, but there aren't many agencies there. There are other cities, too.

Also, I do have to be honest, not every woman you see will be beautiful, but you can believe there are many. And there are many not so beautiful. And there are many in between.

Also, keep this in mind too, what I'm considering beautiful does not include the cross section of ladies with cosmetic surgery. There are many ladies like that in Cali, but there are many others who are totally natural.

Your best bet is to improve your Spanish to the point of mastery. If you can do that, you'll have it all in the palm of you hand (given that you're a gentleman with the women) because you'll be able to meet the selection of nice looking women in the agencies, plus search outside of the agencies for the other pretty women that would consider dating a gringo, but may not like the agency circuit.

Just because a woman isn't in an agency does not mean that she wouldn't date a gringo.

Aaron

... in response to Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by snap38 on Jun 11, 2003

Aaron's right, go there, you will see plenty of just 'regular' women going to work, going shopping, going to school, just wandering around, prettier than some of those models...100%? No, I aint gonna lie to you, but enough (and remember, you can only keep one, anyway).....but that's not the POINT, my friend, cancunhound gets the point....Patrick runs this board for guys who are interested in finding decent foreign women to marry, he does NOT run it to co-ordinate playa tours and 'modeling sessions'.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Michael B on Jun 11, 2003

n/t

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Michael B on Jun 11, 2003

All good points.  As with any group there are nice and not so nice, pretty and not so pretty, girls you could take home to mom & not, etc. in the mix.  That said, one thing that I would strongly caution against is being blinded by beauty alone.  I've had many a guy friend played down here by beautiful women.  Beautiful women truly are a dime a dozen in CO, but a good beautiful women is tough find.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Quick Look!!, posted by Michael B on Jun 11, 2003

I get the point, too. Those ladies don't look like anything I would want to bring home to mamma....

Aaron

... in response to Exellent Points, Mike. , posted by Aaron on Jun 11, 2003

Yeah, Aaron

My mother would prefer that I married a nice homely american girl that speaks perfect english so she could have nice long conversations with her everyday.

But, I think you should get over your fear of beautiful women. You know some caleñas are actually beautiful inside and out. Being a model doesn't make you a bad person or someone that is not interested in a serious relationship.

You guys are right about one thing there are a lot of really nice looking women just walking around the malls. I just don't really get into trying to pick up women at the malls. I have watched Walter do it for other americans and it just seems a little uncomfortable and surprising to some of the women when Walter approches them.

There is one exception, Chipichapi on fridays and saturdays between 7:30 and 9:30pm. Most of the stores are closed and the place is full of hotties socializing at the cafes that sell beer and coffee. I really think the women that are there at that time are not just shopping and are interested in meeting people.

... in response to Exellent Point, posted by Calipro on Jun 11, 2003

inside or outside the agencies.

... in response to Quick Look!!, posted by Calipro on Jun 11, 2003

I've seen these girls circulated before on other websites.
Their looks don't thrill me, and I'm surprised that they are even considered as models. In my book, they're not model calibre. They look cheap.

There are many other everyday girls just walking around Cali that would make these women be ashamed to look in the mirror.

Aaron

... in response to I'm not impressed....., posted by Aaron on Jun 11, 2003

I agree Aaron..............Walter Mora was circulating pictures of the first model........pictures he had personally taken of her.........that should tell you something.  These girls come a dime a dozen in Cali.
"nice girls"????  Come on CaliPro............looks like you're setting yourself up for another fall.

... in response to Re: I'm not impressed....., posted by beenthere on Jun 11, 2003

areas:

1.) He let the Calenas go to his head. He's Calena crazy. He needs to take a breather and relax about these women.

2.) He places too much importance on the physical beauty, and not enough on the personality and maturity level of the person.

Well, he may realize these things already, and just doesn't care; or he may not realize it because he's totally beyond the point of reason.

I don't know. It's just an observation I'm making. I could be right, and I could be wrong. If I'm wrong, I'll apologize.

Aaron