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After my recent trip to Cali I find most AW ugly. On average thier figures can can not compete with the calenas. The AW have no butts. It is very very dificult to find an AW that has a combination of nice butt, bust and face. Furthermore the american women do not dress as well: sexy shoes,tight fiting clothes,manicures and long hair.

... in response to American Women are Ugly, posted by elcolombiano on Mar 2, 2003

I think there are a number of attractive women here in the US, at least on the outside...but it also costs a lot more here for women to maintain their beauty, ie. manicures, pedicures, hairstyles, gym memberships, even makeup is much more costly here. Also lipposuction is dirt cheap in Cali, watch out for that. I've met a number of women in Cali who have gotten gringos to pay for such surgeries. It tells me the women are lazy and aren't willing to put the time in to take care of themselves. Personally, I can usually tell a woman who has had the surgery and it doesn't look natural. I do agree that there is nothing more beautiful than a sexy latina with her dark eyes and long flowing hair and the sexy way they dance.

... in response to American Women are Ugly, posted by elcolombiano on Mar 2, 2003

Thats a bit of a ridiculous statement, altough I can sympathize with your feelings.  Its not easy to come back to the states after Cali and all the easy attention from very young babes.  Perhaps the problem is one of perception, here is more difficult to get that attention and so can lead one to wild statements.  I went clubbing last Saturday in Seattle and let me tell you there was no shortage whatsoever of hot pieces everywhere in every club. On top of that, Seattle is nothing for women. Californa and Florida have it beat by leaps and bounds, and the women in the southern states are, in my opinion, more friendly, hotter, and much less feministic.  Cali has it beat, but only because we can get the young hot ones there and is not so easy here, excepts if you had money, power, or fame. In Cali, we have those things for the most part so is why the young ones are so readily available to us.

... in response to Now Now, take it easy..., posted by Yalg on Mar 3, 2003

I think beauty is randomly-distributed genetically. I have
seen studies that all cultures respond to an almost
mathematical harmonics in the features of a beautiful
woman. And there are only so many that have a shapely
face.

There are two other factors. Woman are free to move
to look for better opportunities. Los Angeles sweeps up
alot of the mid-Western beauty supply. And woman in
California and Florida have to compete for male attention.
You tend to see them invest more in their beauty and
health upkeep.

What I noticed in Cali was not pure beauty, but splendid
packaging, and women completely comfortable in their own
skin, and with their own hot blood. They ooze sex in their
walking, talking, and dressing. That was good enough for me.
I married one.

... in response to Now Now, take it easy..., posted by Yalg on Mar 3, 2003

I was in the mall yesterday in Dallas with my wife (my clubbing privileges have been revoked) and I saw plenty of fine women, but...

later I realized that most of the ones I found attractive were imports (so to speak), not AW.  Latinas and Orientals; mostly Latinas in Dallas.  

Steve

... in response to Immigrant women, posted by DallasSteve2 on Mar 3, 2003

DALLASTEVE...You and I know that the dallas-ft-worth girl are all about the money.This is the number..1... area for a GOLDDIGGERS

... in response to Re: Immigrant women, posted by my2cent on Mar 3, 2003

I took my wife to get her hair cut a few weeks ago (not much, just a trim).  The sylist was a young Mexican woman.  They got to talking about men and she told my wife she would never date a gringo because we are too cheap.  So I can't argue with your opinion on Dallas women.

Steve

... in response to Dallas women, posted by DallasSteve2 on Mar 3, 2003

So which type of men does she date that are not cheap?

... in response to Re: Dallas women, posted by Red Clay on Mar 4, 2003

She said that she dates Mexicans.  She thinks they are not cheap.  I don't know.  My ex-Colombiana used to complain that I was cheap and she said Colombian men will spend a lot of money on their women even if they don't have much.  But she may just have been saying that to make me feel guilty and to give her more money.  I guess it worked.

Steve

... in response to Latinos, posted by DallasSteve2 on Mar 4, 2003

Several women I met in Cali commented that a lot of Gringos are cheap and they do not like to date cheap men. Few colombianos make more than a million pessos a month. There is no way they can compete with a Gringo with dollars. The girls all know this. I think it is a ploy to get us to spend a lot of money on them. Unfortunately there are also some men that spoil the girls with expensive gifts in order to "get lucky", this provides a bad example and only makes the situation worse. It is true that the Colombians are very genorous. It is not uncommon for a colombiano to treat a large group of freinds to drinks or a meal. In the USA every one pays there portion. Its just not that way there.

... in response to Re: Latinos, posted by elcolombiano on Mar 5, 2003

You are correct, it is not like here in the states where everyone pays their own share if you invite someone to meet you for dinner or drinks.  In colombia, if you invite someone, you are expected to pick up the tab for everyone.

... in response to Re: Re: Latinos, posted by Edge on Mar 5, 2003

I have never met a woman that I can remember in the states that didnt expect I pay for the whole tab..I need to move to where you live brother....

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Latinos, posted by Yalg on Mar 5, 2003

Yalg -  I should have made it clear I was not talking about a date with a woman. I was responding to the last sentences of elcolombiano's post about it not being uncommom for a colombiano to treat a large group of friends to drinks or a meal.  It is part of their culture to do so, especially if you invite them, you are olbligated to pay.  If I invite some friends, here in the states, to meet or try to arrange for friends to meet for lunch or dinner or drinks, I do not expect to pay for the whole group.  Everyone pays their own tab.  But that is not how it is in colombia.  It is a more formal culture.

However, it is acceptable, if you have a close friend in colombia and you are going to invite them to dinner or drinks, you can tell them it will be "estilo americano" (american style) where you each pay for yourself.  This is only between close friends.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Latinos, posted by Edge on Mar 5, 2003

At least someone understands what I am saying.