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Thanks...Hoda

Hoda...

I totally agree with you. I think the more mature ladies of the agencies are less naive, and realize that all cultures and counties of people have men that are dogs. These women are more caution, and selective with the men they meet, as all the other women should be.  

And I don't like how many agencies portray Colombian males as poor candidates for spouses. I don't believe that, because I know too many Colombian males, and married couples where the men are great partners. Infact they help me in many ways in looking for ladies for relationships, and have been excellent role models for how I would like my relationship to be in the future.

Aaron

I am just saying that it takes a very small mind to believe that a person must be bad because of being born male and in a specific country.  Three weeks ago I was on a horse ride in Colombia and I was talking to a guy who had caught his wife the night before with another man.  People cheat.  It is the nature of mankind.  It has nothing to do with nationality.

I think many choose to believe this to help justify why a beautiful young girl twenty years younger than themselves would marry them and leave friends and family behind.  We don't want to consider that it might be nothing but economics.  This is not a bad thing in my opinion but we should at least be honest about it.

ok so people cheat, its the nature of mankind...whats your point? i think when the women say negative things about their men i dont think they are just talking about cheating ...i think that is only part of their complaint.

well you say many believe this to justify being with a younger woman...well maybe a few do but i dont think that most do. i think most know the score. i also dont think you can catagorize people like that, there all kinds of guys go down there from all parts of the world  with different attitudes about the culture the girls and just exactly what they are looking for.

as for the ladies yes some of it is economics but not all of it, i think the ladies have many reasons  to want to marry a gringo, just as we have many reasons to want to marry a colombiana.

Let me see your drivers license sir...  hmmm I see that you are a Colombian male...  so how many times did you cheat on her today?  Did you beat her today?  I am sure it is genetic and you can't help yourself...    

I don't think so.

Also if all the guys cheat and the women do not...  do the guys all fly here to cheat with the evil American woman or where do they go?

And remember, for many of these girls it is a little shameful to join an agency in order to find a partner. They need a convincing story when the gringo asks: "why did you sign up with an agency?".

I'm sure there are more than a handful, but I'm sure you never thought about that possibility.

If you believe that a gringo is a better candidate for marriage than a Colombian or other Latin man just because of social and cultural reasons, then your being discriminatory and prejudice. It really doesn't matter where you get your source of information from whether it be from a Colombian person or another gringo.

Another thing is that any woman that thinks a gringo is a better candidate for marriage than Colombian or other Latin men just because of social and cultural reasons, then she has a major inferiority complex about her own people and herself.

I don't want a woman like that. You can have all those kind of mamacitas desesperadas.  

Aaron

i never said a gringo was a better candidate...where do you come up with this stuff???? you sure are fast to come out with words like discrimanation, etc...whats your problem...you are unbelievable...read your own rantings...you are the ONE  that is catagorizing and grouping  and judging people. you better slow down and drink some of that milk hoda talks about..sheeesh!

Is it stereotypical, discriminatory, and prejudice to believe that Colombian men are not suitable candidates for spouses?

The answer is YES IT IS, regardless of whoever makes this claim or where ever the source of information comes from.

These types of claims made by the agencies, and by some of the female members, are categorizing all Colombian males as abusers and womanizers.

And the men that believe these types of claims feed into this type of stereotypical thinking.

Aaron

Yes I wish we had more female members to represent things from their perspective.  I'm curious how guys would feel if women posted photos of the guys they thought were scammers.  A visit to the prostitute house before their date might constitute this description for a lot of gals.  

El Diablo

That's why some people on this board are 'Vets' of this deal, and probably always will be...

Mike

Great thought however he has elected himself the final arborator of justice here.

He called me a racist for a statement that he did'nt like.

Which is sick and stupid.

I find him part of the victim class.

GOT MILK?

If a guy wants to visit Whore houses that's his business!
Trying to use this board as conduit for info or recruitment for guys to make excursions for the purpose of visiting these houses...WILL BE MY BUSINESS!!! Men (honest ones anyway) from this board are going south to search & be found by love...NOT WAR!!! Comparing WAR to our quest is offensive, to those that have to go to war & to those in the search for a lifemate! Your Latin Internet friends who visited these houses during your stay are hypocrites in the worst way. They claim to be looking for love, but their going out for azz on the side. That's BS BIG TIME VET!!! If any man can justify getting some azz on the side, while searching for a sincere, loving lifemate....DOESN'T DESERVE ONE!!!!

There is no moral equivalent to justify HO-STROLLING while searching & hoping to be found by love.

THERE WAS NO NEED WHATSOEVER TO PUT MY NAME IN THE SUBJECT HEADING....

Just who elected you King?

Basically, I use to get upset about some of the games other guys play with the ladies in Cali, as well with the games the women play, but now I've reach the point that I don't care what other people do.

If a guy wants to travel to Cali, look for a wife, but screw with prostitutes on the side, then let him go. In my opinion, any man that has to pay for azz is desperate, classes, and morally bankrupt. Any woman that sells her azz for whatever is the same. And I will not denegrate myself to that level, and I wouldn't even want to talk to such people, or be in their presence. I feel that I'm above that.

If the guy wants to screw with prostitutes, and unknowingly catch a disease, but then marry another decent and faithful woman, then what? He'll pass the disease to his partner. And all the "so-called good intentions" he had in finding a wife can be thrown out the window then because both of them will die within a few years because of his misguided sexual practicies.

Really, in my opinion guys screwing around with prostitutes shouldn't be going to Colombia in the first place. And if you had any genuine respect for Colombia, its culture, and Colombian people, you yourself wouldn't like it when gringos travel there to screw around. They're doing nothing but capitalizing on the social turmoil the country is in.

But hey, what goes around, comes around. And every dog has its day.

Aaron

I totally agree with him. Anyone can do what they want to, but remember we all have to pay the consequences for our actions, and some will be paying a high price.

Also, let me just add this for all those gringos reading.

DON'T TRAVEL TO COLOMBIA, MEET DECENT COLOMBIAN PEOPLE, BRAG HOW MUCH YOU LOVE COLOMBIA AND IT'S PEOPLE, THEN TURN AROUND AND RUN TO THE WHORE HOUSES TO SCREW WITH PROSTITUTES. IF PEOPLE HAD GENUINE RESPECT FOR COLOMBIA, IT'S PEOPLE, AND CULTURE, THEY WOULDN'T BE USING CALI, CARTAGENA, OR ANY OTHER CITY AS SEX TOURIST DESTINATIONS.
IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO SCREW AROUND WITH A PROSTITUTE THEN LOOK AT MY FIANCEE, HER MOTHER, AND HER FATHER IN THE FACE. A PERSON THAT DOES THIS IS A HYPOCRITE, AND IS DOING NOTHING BUT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SOCIAL TURMOIL THE COUNTRY IS IN.

Aaron

It's perfectly legitimate to discuss prostitution.  I personally think it's a MAJOR red flag and I would warn women to avoid guys who traffic in it.  This board has always talked about behavior, red flags and a variety of topics that may not be politically correct.   If you think HODA and I are going to roll over and not comment on things we believe are ''red flags'' just because you think it is legitimate behavior,  you're just kidding yourself.  If you can make a case for  prostitution as a healthy thing then great, I'm listening, make it!!

El Diablo

In case you forgot, you started this thread! You're not any more impressive now, then in your last post. In defending a guy who's looking for a lifemate & decides to visit a whore-house in the same trip. What are your buddies looking for, in regards to the morality of a woman they hope to marry? It's obvious,they have a different set of values, than what they expect from their lifemate. You hold these buddies of yours in higher esteem, than the woman who brought along her boyfriend. What kind of trash are you popping, that I'm making up rules for other men? Betcha your buddie that visited the whore-house would never tell his wife.

WHY??
Because she would KICK HIM TO THE CURB!!!! Dayyum CV, what the hell, did you have in your cornflakes, that's making you step to me, about this B.S. Find these dayyum rules in my post, that you're fabricating! Yes, the path is as different, as the men on it. I've stated that many a time. Since you've decided to start this ruckus, in defending men making these excusions....

WHAT IS YOUR MOTIVE FOR STARTING THIS? HUH?? As for me preaching "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY..." More B.S. on your part. We can take this as far you want....

BRING IT!!!!!

I never had a beef with you. Why you decided to flip on me, only you know why. I never questioned your motives or methods, until now. If I don't step to you, you have no reason to step me....

GOT MILK????

Self-Righteous preaching? You're just part of the crew here, that is only going down south for Ho-Strolling. Because, me & others have turned on the lights on you & your fellow cockroaches (Ho-Strollers) you're forced to scramble for the cracks & crevices...lol! I'm here son, what you gonna about it?  NOTHING...because that's just what you're about...

Step off...

For the sake of argument (which I like to do), let me suggest that what might be considered a perfectly "legitimate" outlet for perhaps you, in this case visiting prostitutes, might not be for others, for instance myself.  All behavior to some extent will be accepted by some and rejected by others.  By what measure then do we say something is legitimate and something else is not?  I think this question is really at the crux of the issue.

The other day you were perfectly comfortable with the slamming of a woman who brought her boyfriend along as the interpreter on a date.  Why was her behavior considered bad or illegitimate while other behavior is considered legitimate?  There must be some objective measure for you when determining this.  Maybe it was her deceipt but whatever it was, you measured her and found her lacking.   Let me suggest that it was YOUR OWN moral code that you used to measure her behavior.  We all do this, we all have are own code and we are all very judgemental at least in this sense.  

So if we're all judgemental, if we all bring our moral code to the table, why single HODA out as if he's doing something noone else is?  You do it, I do it, we all do it and HODA is no more guilty then the rest of us.  Well this is my opinion anyway...

On the other hand, if I thought visiting prostitutes while looking for a wife in a far away land was truly legitimate behavior (which I don't), I would not make my case by suggesting that those who disagree not speak (as you have with HODA) but by proclaiming the ligitamacy of prostitition whatever you believe it to be.

Anyway, my judgemental 2 cents... (-:

El Diablo  

To the instance he found objectional in a prior post. That was bad, guys getting their grove on the nite before interviewing ladies is kool.....Aahhh, how silly we are EL-D!

Hoda....