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Title: More on Vaccinations / Immunizations
Post by: Jim L on April 14, 2001, 04:00:00 AM

Sometime ago this subject came up and I think there was some confusion regarding which vaccinations are necessary for those of us travelling to Latin America.

I recently had a routine check up and when I told my doctor I was travelling to South America he recommended having a Hepatitis A vaccination (I'd already been vaccinated for Hepatitis B).  It's done in two stages.  The first injection provides partial immunization after one month's time and a follow up is needed anytime between six months and a year afterwards for complete immunization.  
Unlike Hepatitis B, which is classified as a blood-born pathogen,(sexual contact, infected needles etc) Hepatitis A can be contracted through infected food or water, so the obvious common sense rules about street food, tap water that you're unsure of etc., apply as well.

As for cost, your insurance should cover it (mine did). But if you're doing it out of pocket I think it runs about $80.

If you're interested in finding exactly which vaccinations you'll need based upon where you're travelling you may want to check out this site. I got the URL from the pamphlet in my doctor's office:

www.passporthealthusa.com

They have offices throughout the country, and can provide the appropriate vaccinations tailored to where you're travelling, your risk factors, etc.

Jim L



Title: Re: More on Vaccinations / Immunizations
Post by: JunFan68 on April 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to More on Vaccinations / Immunizations, posted by Jim L on Apr 14, 2001

Before my first trip, I went to my Doctor to get some medicine in case I got 'tourista' down there. I asked him if I needed any specific shots for Colombia and he pulled out his book, and said....nahhh.

My .02,
Mike



Title: Re: More on Vaccinations / Immunizations
Post by: Martin T on April 14, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to More on Vaccinations / Immunizations, posted by Jim L on Apr 14, 2001

What about Malaria? I know it would be no probem in Bogota, but what of the lowlands? Is it a problem?, is it safer in the dryer months? It's really bad news these days, there's no cure, and killer strains of the disease are becoming more common. Don't underestimate it. Anyone wise about it in respect to Colombia?


Title: Re: Re: More on Vaccinations / Immunizations
Post by: Jim L on April 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: More on Vaccinations / Immunizations, posted by Martin T on Apr 14, 2001


Martin, you're right about the potential dangers of Malaria.  According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control) here in the states, tropical areas of Colombia and other SA countries (below 5,000 feet elevation) where the mosquito vector breeds are areas of potential risk.
Cali did seem loaded with mosquitos when I was there last May. I've never heard reports of anyone contracting Malaria after visiting any urban areas of Latin America though.
I don't believe there's a vaccine yet either but If you're really concerned there are prescription anti-malarial drugs available.
Personally, I don't think the risk is great enough to worry about it for me just going to Cali. Using some mosquito repellant might not be a bad idea though.

G'day, mate :-)



Title: Re: Re: Re: More on Vaccinations / Immunizations
Post by: Martin T on April 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: More on Vaccinations / Immunizat..., posted by Jim L on Apr 15, 2001

Jim, mate, there there are anti-malarial drugs available, but apparently they are only partially effective, and some nasty types of malaria are now becoming impossible to treat. There are also rare instances of severe and permanent side effects from the use of these drugs, and temporary sickness is an common side effect from use. Malaria is a bigger killer in the undeveloped world than HIV, and the reason that we are not so scared of it is because it is still a rare malady in the developed world. The US and Australian armed forces are both doing a lot of research into vaccines, simply because soldiers often go to these places, and bullets not so effective against mosquitoes. Drug companies are not so interested because the people who mostly suffer from it wouldn't have the money for the drugs even if they were available ... It's a sick world we live in! I remember these points from a documentary I saw last year, and I recall the mentioning of the problem in South America and particularly Colombia. It's an issue of consideration, thanks for your response. You know mate, we don't say "mate" nearly as often as you think, mate ;-)


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: More on Vaccinations / Immunizations
Post by: Jim L on April 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Re: More on Vaccinations / Immun..., posted by Martin T on Apr 15, 2001


..."thanks for your response. You know mate, we don't say "mate" nearly as often as you think, mate ;-)..."

You're welcome, Martin.   And like most yanks, I've probably seen one too many Crocodile Dundee film. ;-)

Welcome! And good luck in your search.

Jim



Title: re: Seņor Cocodrilo Dundee
Post by: Martin T on April 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: More on Vaccinations / I..., posted by Jim L on Apr 15, 2001

Thanks Jim, buddy ...did you know the Spanish for crocodile? It's just what I thought it would be! You never know when it may come in handy!


Title: Re: re: Seņor Cocodrilo Dundee
Post by: Jim L on April 16, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to re: Seņor Cocodrilo Dundee, posted by Martin T on Apr 15, 2001


No preocupaciones, mate!...  Sobre cocodrilos, ni mosquitos que contagian con malaria.

(sonrisa ;-)

Jim



Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: More on Vaccinations / Immunizations
Post by: Houndog on April 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Re: More on Vaccinations / Immun..., posted by Martin T on Apr 15, 2001

Never heard of a case myself either. Our State Dept. has a sight that warns against travel to certian countries and regions of the world. Colombia is on that list. They warn about everything they could find or dream up and not even with their vivid imagination did they think of Malaria.

Houndog



Title: about malaria and don't forget dengue fever either!!!
Post by: Traveler on April 18, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: More on Vaccinations / I..., posted by Houndog on Apr 15, 2001

boy, and I mean boy,  you are really the king of misinformation.  shows how much you know.  

not only is malaria possible, albeit rare, but dengue as well.  dengue is much more pervasive in the developing world than malaria.  there is one type of dengue that is fatal.  if you are fortunate to not get this variety, but just the run of the mill variety you can count of feeling like mierda for a couple of weeks.

anti-malarial drugs can be effective but they have side effects such as horrible nightmares (no kidding, take it from someone who knows).  I found the risk of getting malaria to be worth not having nightmares but don't discount malaria.  


other fun diseases you may find in your favorite tropical country include cholera, hepatitis, and everyones favorite, intestinal parasites.

there is much more preaching on this board than practicle info so take it for what it is worth.  there is not much understanding of latin culture here either, but some of the questions and answers do provide some entertainment value. there are some people in the know though.  

however, I would not accept medical advice from the posters on planet love.    



Title: Re: You forgot to mention what you caught...:(
Post by: Houndog on April 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to about malaria and don't forget dengue fe..., posted by Traveler on Apr 18, 2001

Well you forgot to mention what you catch and bring back every trip..opps I mean on your one trip to the DR so far...Venarial Diease......what did you say...much more common, easier to catch in bars and more embarrasing to get rid of...

Houndog



Title: what are the symptoms of "venarial" disease??? inability to spell???
Post by: Traveler on April 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: You forgot to mention what you caugh..., posted by Houndog on Apr 19, 2001

that would be 4 trips to the DR

5 to Venezuela

3 to Mexico

and who knows maybe one to Cartagena in May

later Henry



Title: Re: what are the symptoms of "venarial" disease??? inability to spell???
Post by: Houndog on April 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to what are the symptoms of "venarial&..., posted by Traveler on Apr 19, 2001

Now malandope...you math seems to have exploded since you last told how many trips you have made...trying to fake credibility ???

So how long does it take to get over the clap ???

Houndog



Title: I don't know, is this a riddle?? and are you jeolous??
Post by: Traveler on April 20, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: what are the symptoms of "venar..., posted by Houndog on Apr 19, 2001

DR  4 times
Venezuela 5
Mexico 3

did I mention Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras???   I see you're keeping track.



Title: Re: I don't know, is this a riddle??
Post by: Houndog on April 20, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I don't know, is this a riddle??   and a..., posted by Traveler on Apr 20, 2001

You sure that's not the side effects of those VD drugs...and the others just for recreational purposes. Loss of memory, delusions, False Memory Syndrome, Paranoia....Hmmmmm sounds like you need a checkup....

Houndog



Title: nope dog last year alone I went to the DR 3 times, Venezuela 2
Post by: Traveler on April 20, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: I don't know, is this a riddle??, posted by Houndog on Apr 20, 2001

I had a good year.  how was yours??  seems you didn't do much more than passing your time on internet chat boards between your semi-annual trips to Colombia


Title: Re: nope dog last year alone I went to the DR 3 times, Venezuela 2
Post by: Houndog on April 20, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to nope dog last year alone I went to the D..., posted by Traveler on Apr 20, 2001

Well I was in Colombia 3 times last year...not a lot...but three times more than you...

Funny about all your trips....you only mentioned one before...I guess you just forgot....yea thats it...a real world hoppin guy thats ...Still Waiting....LOL...forgets alot I'll bet..

Houndog