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Hey Guys...

One question I'm dying to ask, especially now that my career path is, for the most part, set in stone: I'm probably going to be a public librarian, and if I'm lucky, I'll start off making around $35,000 a year.  Granted I can move up the ranks and make more than that in time (hey, everyone has to pay the dues).  But my question is this: is a good Filipina (I've read the horror stories same as everyone else) a good choice for a wife who's going to care more about the man I am than the paycheck I bring home?  

Thanks guys,
NateD :)

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

I worry about you nate. I think you have the cart way before the horse. Sounds like you need to hit a frat party, get sloppy drunk and go find a ho to dis. You need a degree then a job and then too start thinkin about contacting women in a country half way around the world, somethings wrong here man.

How about put school on hold and find a job that pays what ya need to I864 your girl here and get goin now. Or stay in school and find a pretty co ed.

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

If you're living in downtown Manhattan, Chicago, San Francisco, or West LA, where fixer uppers run a million and a half dollars, and making $35K you'd be better off searching for a wife who had the skills and resume to work, just so you both could live, and should forget the expense of heading overseas IMO, at least not til you've saved up for a while. But if you live in a less popular place, like a friend of mine who retired and bought a 40 acre farm with a house, barn and tractor, outside Minot North Dakota for $17K - well that's very different.

As for whether a "good" woman from the PI will love you more than a big paycheck, I agree with the others, a good women from anywhere will do that. Picking one from the PI, where nearly all people have to live frugally would be a far wiser choice than say, a spoiled brat from the 90210 zip code.

Just my 2 cents.

- Jeff

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

After seven years of searching for the right 'good' one, I adopted the proceedure of telling prospectives that;

1;  I have absolutely no money.

2; I have absolutely NO intention of bringing a Filipina to the USA.

3;  My dream is to live a simple life in a nipa hut on the beach, raising pigs and chickens.

95% of them were instantly history upon hearing this. Then bam, I found one whose intentions were true.

Larry.

Living quite happily in Dumaguete, but not yet in a nipa hut!! Maybe next year!!!   :)

... in response to Re: Filipinas and money, posted by shadow on Nov 18, 2003

Hi Larry,

I am very happy to hear that things are going great with you! Good luck to you and your wife! I hope you move into your nipa hut soon...I'm right behind you and Hum...I think Jimbo will be building one soon himself. :o)

Dave H.

... in response to Nipa Huts, posted by Dave H on Nov 18, 2003

Hi Dave,

Here's a business idea: a Roller Kingdom!  Wait - stop laughing and hear me out:

What do Filipinos enjoy?  Social gatherings, music, snack food, AC, low cost activity, right?  With a big old building all you need is a sound system, a bunch of skates and a snack bar.  The snack bar would be a big revenue producer because the admission fee would have to be cheap, like P15 or something.

You could be the DJ, "Hollywood Ham the Tune King Man."  Dance tunes and rock will get them going.  I'll be the skate guard, skating around backwards and blowing my whistle on kids who are going too fast, "YOU! Slow down or you're going to sit out for three songs!"

Jim

... in response to Business idea, posted by Jimbo on Nov 19, 2003

Hi Jim,

My wife wants us to open it at the new Gaisano Mall in Butuan City. :o) We need to make the DJ booth bullet-proof...especially if I start singing karaoke! :oD

Dave H.

... in response to Business idea, posted by Jimbo on Nov 19, 2003

Ok idea,
You will have to watch out for sleeping dogs on the skate floor.   Beans and corn will be drying on the floor when it is raining outside.   You know I didn't see anyone skating in the PI in my travels.  No one seemed to like exchanging their flip flops and putting there feet into skate shoes.  
If it fails you can always use the building and floor for cock fights and gambling LOL.  Suri, suri stores could be rented out inside the building and you could raise a few pigs where the benches are for people to sit.   May as well sell some fish while you are at it.  
Otherwise a great idea

... in response to Re: Business idea, posted by Peter Lee on Nov 19, 2003

I think a KTV machine has to come into this picture at some point. A skating Jollibee may inspire the desire to try roller skating.

Also given the Filipino talent for putting as many people as possible into and onto any form of wheeled transportation, I wonder how many can ride on one pair of skates?

Ron

... in response to Re: Business idea, posted by Peter Lee on Nov 19, 2003

Great point there Peter!

How about "Flop Skates", or flip-flops with wheels? Let's get a professional opinion from Jeff S.... :-)

Ray

... in response to New Invention?, posted by Ray on Nov 19, 2003

My professional opinion is that you should call them flip-skates, not flop-skates. (pun intended)

- Jeff

... in response to Business idea, posted by Jimbo on Nov 19, 2003

Graet idea.

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Filipinas and money, posted by shadow on Nov 18, 2003

Glad to hear all is well Larry. Let us know when you get that Nipa hut built Sallie and I will come for a visit.

Hum&Sallie

... in response to Re: Re: Filipinas and money, posted by Humabdos on Nov 18, 2003

Already have a Nipa hut you can stay in, Hum. Gorgeous place, on the beach, very secluded. Unfortunately, we are only able to spend a few nights per month there at present.

Come on over!!

Larry

P.S. When was Robin and Rhie coming over? Or did I miss them already?

... in response to Re: Filipinas and money, posted by shadow on Nov 18, 2003

"For you" should be the operative phrase in that post. Because a woman doesn't want to live in a dirt floored hut and slop the pigs, doesn't necessarily mean she's not a "good one." Naturally, each of us have different wants and expectations.

Haven't heard from you in a while. How's life in the PI doing these days?

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Re: Filipinas and money, posted by Jeff S on Nov 18, 2003

People don't live on dirt floors in the Philippines Jeff. They have Bamboo floors in nipa huts which are very nice.
Also having a few pigs is a must for any Filipino family.

Hum

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Filipinas and money, posted by Humabdos on Nov 18, 2003

I was being somewhat facetious. I used to think I'd like living out in the boonies, but the older I get the more I like the resturaunts, concerts, ethnic shopping, convenience, and other trappings of a major metropolitan area. Certainly everyone has their own idea of an idyllic lifestyle, and if a person's is a nipa hut on the beach living like Gilligan, more power to him.

My main point, though, is that there are good city girls, who'd rather go to museums and whip up gourmet meals than feed chickens and pound clothes on a rock in the river.

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Filipinas and money, posted by Jeff S on Nov 18, 2003

Point well taken, Jeff.

Although I'm sure there are plenty of good 'city girls', I was not looking for someone to walk around the malls in high heels looking pretty. I was looking more for someone that wasn't looking for a sugar daddy to buy her all the nice things that go with what a 'city girl' generally wants and desires. I'd met and courted all too many of those type already, and wanted nothing more to do with them.

I was looking more for someone who was adventurous enough to climb on the back of a motorcycle at a moments notice and go for a 200+ km trek through rugged mountain terrain. (That is exactly what we did our second day together, a 10 hr journey)

What I wanted was someone who was looking for a 'loving relationship' not based on the color of my skin, the fact that I was 'kano', that I was a 'ticket to America', or that there was money in the bank.

By being so blunt and stating what I stated at the start, I ruled out all those that I was so tired of weeding through.

No, Rony and I are not 'slopping pigs', although that simple life would appeal to both of us too. We opened a laptop computer store here in Dumaguete in September, and are now in the process of opening a restaurant serving american and mexican food.

Rony is so very different from all those 'city girls' I wasted the last seven years chasing, and I am very fortunate to have finally found her. She is open, honest, intelligent, beautiful, and doesn't care for 'glitter'. I have been giving her P500 per week to spend on herself, but she doesn't spend it. She never asks for anything.

Ah, life is grand!

Larry

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Filipinas and money, posted by shadow on Nov 18, 2003

Cool Larry. Glad to hear you're doing well, and to see you're posting again. Is an internet cafe is a good business there? I suggested it for a friend thinking of moving to Mexico and wanted an easy to run business.

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Filipinas and mo..., posted by Jeff S on Nov 19, 2003

This is about the last biz I would attempt here. several years ago it may have been viable, but as I see it now I don't understand how anyone in this biz here pays the light bill.

It is very competitive, there is one on every corner. The ones with the very best of connections get P20 per hr., while the rest are lucky to get many customers at P15. If you stop to consider the cost of a tower, plus setting it up and maintaining it, phone lines and premises it would take many hrs. per month to break even.  The only ones that seem to be doing well here are the ones that rely mostly on food/drink sales. Others close down every day, only to be replaced by a new one down the street.

Mexico may be a whole different can of beans.

What gave me the idea of a mexican joint was here in Dumaguete it is very difficult to get a decent meal. There is only about two places in the entire town to get an american style meal. If you want to eat out here, you either get chicken and rice, or rice and chicken. If you think you want two pieces of chicken, guess what, you must also have two rice!!

Also, the best thing to ever come out of mexico was the FOOD!!!

Larry.

... in response to Internet cafes, posted by shadow on Nov 19, 2003

Mexican food can sell well anywhere in the world. Also suggest you try some of the Mexican seafood dishes, like ceviche, huachinango veracruizano (or al mojo de ajo) and caldo de mariscos, siete mares. They'd go over great in Asia.

http://www.mexican.recipes-to-go.com/Ceviche.html
http://recipes.chef2chef.net/recipe-archive/3/A03712.shtml
http://www.thatsmyhome.com/fishermans/sevensea.htm

- Jeff

... in response to AMEN!, posted by Jeff S on Nov 19, 2003

I haven't seen very many Asians that like Mexican food.

Personally, I grew up on Mexican food (East LA) and I love the stuff. During my travels around Asia, I always kept an eye out for decent Mexican food and it was damn hard to find. I did find one decent Mexican restaurant in Singapore, one in Pataya Beach, Thailand, and one in Perth. I never did find any decent Mexican food in Japan, Okinawa, or Taiwan but that was some years ago.

In the Philippines, there was one pretty good place in Subic (and Manila) called Ninas Papagayo that was popular with the Americans, and there was a little bar called Mom’s that sold tacos on the side and they did a great business with the sailors. But most of the Filipinos would gag on Mexican food. I think that Filipinos in general are not very adventurous when it comes to trying out new and strange foods. I know a lot of Filipinos that have lived here in the states for many years, and I can’t think of one who really likes Mexican food. The one exception is fish tacos. I do know some Filipinos here that like fish tacos. My wife will eat fish tacos from Rubio’s and Costco’s Chicken Enchiladas, but that’s as far as she will go so far. She doesn’t even want to look at a bean burrito (LOL).

I found some pretty good tacos at a little joint in Cagayan at the Lemkeptke(?) Mall, but they didn’t call them tacos, they were called “Taco Salad”. I ate there a couple of times but never saw a Filipino eating the Mexican stuff.

Larry, you might want to start out with something like a little taco stand and sell nothing but fish tacos for starters to see if they will sell. The ingredients for fish tacos are simple and readily available, but you’ll probably have to make all of your own tortillas of course. I would guess that if fish tacos won’t sell over there, then the other Mexican dishes will be a lost cause with the locals, unless there are a LOT of Americans living there. If you have ever tried Rubio’s, try making them like that with fried fish filets and shredded cabbage and they might go for it.

Ray

... in response to I don't know Jeff, posted by Ray on Nov 19, 2003

Well, it is certainly true that getting them to try anything new is very difficult at best. However, most of those that I have convinced to try a taco love them, and now want me to make them every weekend.

Otherwise, we plan on starting simply. Just offering the basics. But we are also going to be adding a twist to it.

Anyone ever had a chicken and plain rice burrito? Or how about a plain rice and chicken burrito? :)

For P30 we should be able to offer a good quality full meal to a filipino.

For P100 we should be able to offer a good quality full meal to a foriegner, of which according to immigration there are over 400 here in this small town.

Add in the fact that it is nearly impossible to get a decent meal here, my theory is if we supply good food and cold beer at fair prices, they'll come!!

We also will be doing some 'party' like promotions. Say one Sunday per month all you can eat tacos for P120, to name just one.

There are at present that I know personally about 50 foriegners that are eagerly awaiting our opening.

Cheers.

Larry.

... in response to Re: I don't know Jeff, posted by shadow on Nov 19, 2003

Well, it sounds like you did your market research so hopefully you can start converting Filipinos over to Mexican food.

I make chicken and rice burritos with both plain white rice and fried rice, but the wife won’t eat them because of the tortilla. I even told her that flour tortillas are just thick lumpia wrappers but she wasn’t buying it. However, she will unroll it and eat the rice and chicken, so maybe there is still hope.

The all-you-can-eat taco night sounds good, but have you ever seen Filipinos in an all-you-can-eat buffet? My wife and her cousin will stay in the Oriental Buffet for 4-5 hours and eat a minimum of 6-10 plates each! They won’t eat the rice because they said it takes up valuable stomach space that could be filled with even more crab legs and mussels (LOL). Anyway, just don’t tell them that you use carabeef :-)

Ray

... in response to Sounds good, posted by Ray on Nov 19, 2003

Fry those burritos and you'll have chimichangas, or maybe they could be marketed better as lumpi-changas?

- Jeff

... in response to I don't know Jeff, posted by Ray on Nov 19, 2003

Hi Ray,

I love Mexican food myself! My wife won't touch it...too hot! She tried chicken fajitas without sauce once.

Come to think of it, I never used to see many Cubans eating Mexican food either. Mexican restaurants were hangouts for Gringos in South Florida. We used to take our Cuban friends there to watch them sweat, their eyes bulge and tear up. LOL Second generation Cuban-Americans are into Mexican food, like most Americans.

When I was in the fire department training division, we often ate at a very good restaurant. One of our bashful Gringo instructors must have had 8 birthdays one year. He used to turn salsa red when they came out and put that big sombraro on his head and began to sing. We always promised him that we would never do it again. ROFPIMMFP!!!

Dave H.

... in response to Feliz Complianos!, posted by Dave H on Nov 19, 2003

ROFLMAO!

That reminds me of Papagayo's in Olongapo. They had "authentic" Filipino Mariachis. They were pretty damn good too! I would say that's an absolute requirement for any Mexican restaurant. If they don't like the food, maybe the music will get them in...

Ray

... in response to Filipino Mariachis, posted by Ray on Nov 19, 2003

Isn't that an oxymoron - kind of like gourmet Mexican cuisine or living in Buffalo?

- Jeff

... in response to A Good Mariachi Band?, posted by Jeff S on Nov 19, 2003

ROFL! Well, it only sounds good with beer. LOT'S of beer! :-)

... in response to I don't know Jeff, posted by Ray on Nov 19, 2003

Take it away, Cheech.

Yes, I agree with you. Getting people to try it is sometimes the hardest part. I've had several Japanese tell me they couldn't stand Mexican food. One even said, "If you can find any Mexican food without beans or cheese, I'll eat it." I took him to San Pedro and got a big old whole huachinango (red snapper) fried in garlic butter and covered with peppers and sauteed onions (al mojo de ajo.) He couldn't believe he was eating Mexican food. Of course some of my gringo friends think a meal like that belongs on Fear Factor.

My secretary, a Mexican American, claims to hate seafood. When I asked if she'd ever tried shrimp or lobster, she shuddered said she'd never tried them but was sure she'd hate them. Now, I know some people who are allergic to shrimp, but never met one who'd tried it and just didn't like it. I guess some people are just happy living in very small worlds.

- Jeff

... in response to Born in East LA - I was born in East LA...., posted by Jeff S on Nov 19, 2003

That sounds like the Acapulco, down by Ports O'Call...

... in response to Now you're making me hungry!, posted by Ray on Nov 19, 2003

Ports O'Call has turned nearly all Mexican these days. Still great. There are half a dozen places surrounding a big patio where you pick your own fish out of the ice and they cook it for you. Con cerveza tambien, naturalmente.

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Now you're making me hungry!, posted by Jeff S on Nov 19, 2003

Yep, we were down there a few months ago. If I'm driving by from LAX I try to stop by the fish markets at Ports O'Call and pick up a few pounds of smoked fish. I can't find smoked fish like that anywhere in San Diego.

Ray

... in response to Re: Re: Now you're making me hungry!, posted by Ray on Nov 19, 2003

.. is at Jeff's house. I make it in the back yard.

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Filipinas and money, posted by shadow on Nov 18, 2003

Larry,
A Mexican Restaurant in the Philippines?
Wow what novel idea. I bet Falutas and Chalupas would
sell well. Just add some kind of spicy mango sauce.

Tried that once.

Grande !

Dingo

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Filipinas and mo..., posted by Dingo on Nov 19, 2003

:)

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Filipinas and money, posted by shadow on Nov 18, 2003

Shadow your a man from my heart,

I did the 2200 klm on the motorcycle with her before the marriage.  Convinced her I will retire in the PI and that I am not rich.  I went to far coz she is over there wanting to get a better job to help me out.  She is now realizing that she has to come to the USA to be with me and although she will do it she is not comfortable about it.  I feel when I did that I lied to her coz although I would like to retire in the PI it is to early for me yet.   I am with you on the city girl thing, been there done that too.  
I have a question about the laptops, does it pay to bring one over or buy one there for a present?  
Thanks Peter Lee

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Filipinas and mo..., posted by Peter Lee on Nov 18, 2003

It will depend mostly on what you want.

If you want to buy a new unit, they start out here at about $700 US. That will get you a brand new 600-700 MHZ japanese machine, sometimes without a name on it at all.

If you want a new name brand machine, such as IBM, Compaq, etc. you will be much better off to buy it in the states and hand carry it over.

Same goes true for used name brand machines, there isn't much here, and the prices are high on what is here. Much cheaper in the states.

Larry.

... in response to Laptops, posted by shadow on Nov 19, 2003

Thanks Larry

... in response to Laptops, posted by shadow on Nov 19, 2003

Can you buy them used on ebay and ship them in easy enough or is that a hassle?

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Laptops, posted by Jeff S on Nov 19, 2003

Hi Jeff.

Well, that was my theory too. I allowed for some bad ones, and bid accordingly. I thought I had it all worked out so that if I had 30% of them fail I would still come out ok.

I bought in 'lots' of 5 to 20. I purchased 70+ units varying in speed and capacity from P90s to PIII 700 MHZ. Here's how it looks to have turned out.

I had a good friend living in Pittsburgh who 'volunteered' to send them to me. I had them shipped to his house in May, with the understanding that he was going to forward them to me in balikbayan boxes. I had intended to open the store the first of September.

As it turned out, he failed to send them until August 18th. Seems he was 'too busy'. Nor could I get him to do an inventory so that I knew what was there and what was not there.

He informed me his ex wifes (Filipina) friend ran the Forex biz there, and that she was 'jacking him around'.

I had the store ready to go long before the boxes arrived. I recieved the first two boxes the first week of October after I had already been paying rent on the store for two months. The second two boxes arrived in the second week of October. Upon doing inventory, I was 26 units short.

I traced it all down to the guy who sold me two lots on Ebay. He was running a scam. He had sold these same two lots of laptops to numerous individuals.

Turns out, he had been suspended from Ebay in September '01 under one assumed name. In November '02 he was suspended under a different 'assumed name' for too much negative feedback. Although he was supposedly suspended under this name, I made the mistake of sending him my hard earned capital in May '03, six months after he was supposedly 'suspended'.

Much to my misfortune, by the time I figured all this out, it was much past the 90 day deadline you are given in which to get any recourse.

Out of the units I did recieve, I had about a 25% failure rate. We hope to be sold completely out by Christmas at which time we will close the store for good. At best, I will get most of my money back, minus the cost of rent and store renovations.

I did come up with two good sources for getting units directly from my Ebay contacts , but like I said we will be completely out of stock by Christmas, and it takes at least two months to get more. I am now sticking that capital into the restaurant.

I am positive the used laptop venture is a viable biz venture if someone were to pursue it with reliable resources, which I now have, but...

The funniest part of the whole mess is I recently recieved notice from Ebay that I have been suspended due to the fact that I am now in the Philippines. I am a 'fraud risk'!!

Cheers.

Larry.

... in response to Re: Re: Laptops, posted by shadow on Nov 19, 2003

Unfortunately, that's the chances you take with a place like EBay. I was thinking more of buying them one at a time from private parties. There are several used laptop shops here in Southern Cal, you might be able to make a wholesale deal with, but it sounds like you're geting discouraged with the whole thing.

I like your roller rink idea. Like Peter Lee said, if it doesn't go over well you could always turn it into a cock fighting arena and take a piece of betting action.

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Laptops, posted by Jeff S on Nov 20, 2003

The roller rink idea belongs solely to Jimbo.  :)

The reasons I went with 'lots' is I had bought several from private parties with mixed results, prices are much lower by buying in lots, and it would take a lot of time and effort to purchase 70+ units individually on Ebay.

As I said, I did come up with two good sources from my Ebay experience, but I haven't the capital to invest right now and I couldn't get them here
anywhere near on time. So...

I may try this again somewhere down the road, when and if time and money allow. Right now I am cutting my losses and moving on.

Larry.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Filipinas and money, posted by Jeff S on Nov 18, 2003

Hey Jeff,

Wouldn't being a pig farmer be one of the "unclean" trades. That would curse one's offspring for generations...I have no comments about my family's past. :o)))

Dave H.

... in response to Pigs!, posted by Dave H on Nov 18, 2003

Hey i used to raise pigs and sheep(BAAAAAAAAA)along with 250 moma cows and calves,great live
tneal

... in response to Pigs!, posted by Dave H on Nov 18, 2003

I don't know about raising them, but slaughtering them sure would make you "buraku" (unclean.)

- Jeff

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

My wife and I discussed finances quite a bit after we were engaged. By RP standards most of us must seem fairly wealthy. I of course warned her of my rustic lifestyle with solar electricity, no running water and an outhouse. Despite my warnings she actually thought I was joking. One year later we have running water and indoor plumbing. I was happy to make the upgrades since I was not commited to those snowy walks to the outhouse or hauling up fresh water constantly. Although we certainly do not make huge sums of money we have no problem sending money back to help her family with a few needs like medications and education. I think it averages about $100 per month.

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

I also work in public service. The pay isn't high, but where I live the cost of living is reasonable and there are some benefits as well.

I always made it clear to my fiance from the beginning that I was not wealthy. While I was in Mindanao I did spend a lot of money but she understood that it was because I had exchanged dollars to Pisos.

I weeded out several ladies when I first started looking because the seemed overly interested in money.

Just be careful and look for a good one.

Ron

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

Nate,
Don't talk about money.  Remember a Filipino will translate how much you make multiplied by 55.  Why attract the gold diggers?
Michael B is right, find a good woman and you won't get in trouble.  Don't rush into marriage, take time to really know your intended and her intentions.
I still think it's wise if you find a woman with a profession herself.  Be wise for your future, choose a woman who is able to support herself.  It's good for you and the future family you'll have.  And no - it's not selfish. Women think in these terms all the time.
My old officemate in Manila married a USN petty officer and they are now based in Maryland.  She's making good money as a legal secretary in a big law firm in DC now.  Despite the good pay, she is bored with the job and her husband has asked her to think twice about quitting cause he has gotten used to the double income.  True story, nice people and both my good friends - but we all have to deal with the realities of life in this country where you spend so much on insurance that never gets used!!!!!
Regards,
Mita

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

Money is a powerful issue in the R.P.  I think you need to not only consider what the girl might think but what her family will think and the pressures they might bring to bear on her.  I would think that women in the R.P. are no different than women around the world.  Still my wifes family brought a great deal of pressure on her to benefit financially from our marriage.  My wife and I had discussed this a great deal before the marriage was planned so when they started  pressuring her for additional funds she was able to say no.  This caused her to be labeled a "bad daughter" and shunned and abused by family and neighbors.  It wasn't till she came to the USA did her family apologize for the stress they put on her (last Christmas as a MOF).  Now I send them $50/mon. and they have found that the rest of the family is mad at them for not sharing it with them.  They now buy lots of things that put them in debt so that they can use the money I send them to pay for it and not have to share it with everyone else.  Its actually gotten so bad that Honey's father is now trying to find a place to live in Bohol to get away from his family and the pressure they are putting on him.

Moral - don't ignore the family in this relationship, especially when it comes to money.

Bear and Honey

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

follow up , my wife only cares if she has a roof over her head and at least 1 fish and a can of rice for that day to eat
tneal

... in response to Re: Filipinas and money, posted by nealt on Nov 16, 2003

Hi Tom,

I didn't know that rice came in a can. Is that the way you buy it in Oklahoma? :-)

Ray

... in response to A can of rice?, posted by Ray on Nov 16, 2003

Yes it is called Phillipino in a can you add water bring to a boil let simmer for 15 min add chicken or beef flavor or fish and you have your Phillipina, but now i am married so i don't need it any more
tneal

... in response to Re: A can of rice?, posted by nealt on Nov 18, 2003

I don't know Tom. You have a weird imagination! :-)

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

YES,that is the only answer
tneal

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

Hi Nate,

I agree with Michael B. Don’t look at it as a Filipina thing, but take each one as an individual. You’ll find all types in any cultural group. Materialism is an individual character trait, not a racial one.

Tip: Try not to even mention the word money while you’re writing to prospective mates. Once money enters the equation, everything often seems to get very convoluted.

Ray

... in response to Re: Filipinas and money, posted by Ray on Nov 16, 2003

Hey Ray,

"You’ll find all types in any cultural group."

I guess I just kept meeting the wrong "type" in a certain cultural group. ;o))) For the most part I would agree, although I think certain cultures tend to be more materialistic on the whole. But to be fair, many of these ladies are willing to work hard to get what they want.

Dave H.

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

Hi Nate,

I am sure you could easily find a Filipina who would love and care more about you than your money...I did!

Dave H.

... in response to Filipinas and money, posted by NateD on Nov 16, 2003

I reckon a GOOD one will (care more for the man than the paycheck). So will a GOOD Latina, a GOOD Russian, a GOOD Eskimo, a GOOD Frenchwoman and a GOOD AW.

OTOH, there's the famous Mae West line:
bystander woman: Goodness, what a large diamond.
Mae West: GOODNESS had nothing to do with it.