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There are thousand story of filipina married to american.We heard lot's of succesful story and some ended up divorce.
I had a filipina  close nieghbor in philippines and she married a 60 years old american guy.She's 22 by that time ,fresh graduate from college.I remember her because I'm still in high school the time she got married.She came here in U.S and lost track of her.I don't know anymore what going on with her life here . Till one day she call me  and tell me she so happy to hear from her parents that I married american too.She ask me how old is my husband and when I tell her that he in his early 40's she say lucky me.So I start asking her what goin on with her life.She tell me she remarried so I ask her if her husband die but she say no. She divorce him.She tell me that the first reason she married his first husband is because she feel pity for him.She married him out of love.This filipina nieghbor of ours is came from a very well to do family.His parents own a public transportation (buses and trycicle )in Bohol.No wonder why she insist not to get married in church.I still remember that her husband really want her to marry in church but she say much better in civil wedding because it's quick and they can save lot's of money.As catholic we were teach that civil wedding is not consider true marriage.She tell me that when she arrived here she found the reality of marrying the  much older guy.She had back up plan of course that if she found a young american here she will marry him in church since back in her mind her first marriage is not valid in our church.Her first husband is real nice to her.The only problem, she feel so much embarass to be with him especially in public and some ask her husband if she is his daughter or some  ask her if he is her dad.Remember she is just 22 and her husband is 60.The longer she stay here in U.S.A the more she feel the reality of embarassment.She say she always feel jealous when she see young couple.She ended up not go to some party,and some gathering  or public places if her husband is with her.I remember I have high school classmate too and she married a  american guy same age as my husband and she made a comment to me one time that she feel embarass when she arrived here and found out that her husband nephew is much older than her.She say that if only she know her husband have  nephew 2 years older than her she should marry the nephew.It made me laugh.Back to my nieghbor,she decided to work here and of course her husband is nice so he let her work.Give her everything.Her married to the 60 year old guy never last long.She realize that there she is stuck up with him, soon he be really old and can't give her heaven anymore:).Plus the embarassment she feel inside everytime people stare at them when they were togther.It made her feel humilated.She mention that if only they live in philippines she guess she still be with her first husband.Of course she say that because in philippines people really never care if you married an older guy and you can seldom see young fil/am couple there while here in American you see lot's of young hot  single guy.And she realize too that soon she still be in her early thirties and her husband be 70.She say that she have no plan to change him diaper when he can't make it to the bathroom anymore.She divorce him after few years of marriage and found a younger guy.She is happy to tell me that she have her marriage in church which deep inside her she dream of having it someday.Wearing a nice traditional wedding gown.
Her last words to me is that those filipina who married older guy should never worry because there are million's of young american here waiting for them.Once they were here in U.S  they can shop younger husband if they wantLOL.I'm speechless I can't beleive she say that.My last question to her if she is guilty for marrying again and her answer is no because her first marriage is in civil wedding only.I know lot;s of filipina married in civil wedding with different reason but at least they married the guy because of love.And  I know some that plan to married in church after the civil wedding too.Now all what she say I guess is the reality of marrying much older guy.I'm glad too that nobody ask me if my husband is my dad.For me this sounds funny.My sister inlaw tell me that her husband been ask three times if she is his daughter and he just say that's my wife.My filipina sister inlaw is very tiny ,maybe that's the reason why.raquel

P.S peter I know you wife marry you because she love you.Let just hope she will never see hot young american in Daytona.

... in response to Filipina and big age gap, posted by Febtember on Nov 22, 2003

Hi Feb,

I remembered your post and thought that this story was a perfect example that not all Filipinas want a guy near their own age. I think a lot of these ladies learn from experience to appreciate an older man after they have had a few years with one their own age.

I was talking to a nice Filipina today and mentioned Peter’s case (no names), where a 60-year-old guy married a young Filipina and would like to purchase some beach property and retire in the Philippines. She said that was EXACTLY what she was looking for.

I don’t really know her that well, but she seems like a very nice lady, 35-years-old, very good looking, divorced with a 15-year-old daughter, been in the U.S. for 6 years and a Naturalized U.S. Citizen. She asked me if I could find her an older guy, retired or nearing retirement, who has enough money to do some traveling, eat out at nice restaurants once in a while, and maybe buy some property in the Phils to retire or semi-retire over there. She said she was married to a younger American and now wants an older husband. She said that she doesn’t care if he has one eye and one leg, but he MUST be a “nice guy”.

Is she a gold-digger? Perhaps, but I don’t think so. She certainly didn't marry her ex-husband for his money! I think she just wants a peaceful, comfortable life with a nice older man. She said that she sees all the happy marriages of some of her friends who are married to older guys and that’s what she wants.

At least you can definitely rule out Green Card Shark! LOL! And look at all the time and money a guy could save by bypassing all that immigration junk! :-)

Ray

... in response to Guys like Peter are in big demand, posted by Ray on Nov 28, 2003

N/T

... in response to GOLD DIGGER!!!! N/T, posted by Humabdos on Nov 29, 2003

She already has her own vacuum cleaner... ROFL!

... in response to It's O.K. Hum, posted by Ray on Nov 30, 2003

Does she have the 2004 Gold Digger model with that turbo money sucking wallet attachment?

Hum

... in response to Re: It's O.K. Hum, posted by Humabdos on Nov 30, 2003

No Hum, but that model has some nice fearures.

I think she has the Binford 3000 with the trubo wallet-sucker on one end and the automatic paycheck blower on the other... :-)

Ray

... in response to Filipina and big age gap, posted by Febtember on Nov 22, 2003


He he he he,

I am glad you brought the subject up about age Raquel.   You have seen my civil wedding pictures I forgot the ring that day and we had to hold hands in place of the ring.  I appreciate your letter I know it has been discussed many times but not with me.  Yes, my wife will see many hot young American men in my Martial Arts School.   She will also see me teach a Tae Bo Kickboxing class full of hot women of all ages.   The women will before and after ask me questions and in their way flirt a little.   We know there are many men looking for Filipinas on the internet.   But at home as you know there are plenty of local women the men are attracted too.  I and the PL members are really exceptions.   One of the reasons my wife feels uncomfortable coming here to the USA is thinking she has to keep up with the American women.   I was in Asia most of my Army and Air force enlistment.   So I have been conditioned to favor Asian women as I could see the difference.  Dating Asian women lucky for us is not yet in the mainstream.  So men who are selective and seek Asian ladies are not as easy to find as those who date local women.    
Yes I am 60 on 7 Dec this year and Maricel will be 21 in July.
I know too well the risk I am taking with such a big age difference.  
I never would have believed it a few years ago that this would happen.  
I remember going to the VA hospital and there was an older Guy in a wheelchair being wheeled around by a loving loyal young Filipina wife.  I spoke to them and they seemed like a loving couple married for 12 years.  I am sure there are many horror stories.   I read the book “It’s a long way to go for a date.”  About how an older Canadian married this 18 year old who gave him serious problems.  I studied the matter for a while before I decided to look for a wife in the Philippines.   You know I own a Martial Arts School here in Daytona.   I don’t want to defend marrying a young wife as I know the risks are higher.  A relationships and loving someone is a personal matter and sometimes defies explanation.  I would like to tell you how I came to marry someone so young and you can comment about it after if you like.
I knew my wife was young but not that young, she seemed older.   I was disappointed when I found out she was 19 at the time and crossed her off my list.   We were introduced by her Aunt in the Aunt’s house and coz I wasn’t serious I clowned around with her at first.   I compared her to older ladies that I met though the internet and dated in Davao and Cebu.  She seemed more mature in many ways and there was a natural attraction.  I looked forward to see her more than anyone else and we started to court and the rest is history.    
As a Martial Arts Instructor I have always dated girls younger than me, most of my friends and I see it as a natural part of dating.   My mom is 20 years older than me does anyone know if this has something to do with it?  Any how there were many times when I dated a girl even 5 years younger and there is always some wise guy with the same old condescending comment “is that your daughter?”   Why do they do that?  The same reason when you trip there is always some fool ready to laugh at you.   It is a way of telling the girl “look you can do better than that look at me!”  These are jerks, it bothers them and they wish they were in your shoes.  A reasonable person would adjust to the situation and give a nice greeting.  That would be a person worth trying to know, I certainly would not change my lifestyle for any JERK.  If my wife was bothered by that, the JERK was not the problem.  Any one have any good come back for “Is that your daughter!”  [Coz this guy is a master Jerk]?  “No, my daughter is at home with the babysitter this is my wife.” Or “No, this is my babysitter and I’m her baby.”  I have in my years of observing my students and friends seen couples married close to their age and end in divorce.   So there is no guarantee for any marriages.  

Yes the more the age gap the more risk is true, but similar ages are also at risk.   Lots of couples with a large age difference sleep in different beds, so do same age couples, it’s common.   Younger couples drift apart and get attracted to other mates and the stats for divorces with similar ages in the US show it.   If the relationship is based on a sexual attraction it could be doomed when the sex attraction wears off.  
I think the risk factor is lessoned when you know you’re partner is with you coz they just like to be with you.  
Raquel you brought out a good point focusing on the embarrassing part when a young girl is in company with a much older guy.   Well it has already happened to me just dating girls who were 28 when I was in my 40’s.   These girls were worried what others would think and later I would date someone else even younger and there was no problem.   So it depends on the motivation of the women and why they are with that older person in the first place.  
There is over 18 year’s difference between my wife’s mama and papa.  The hard life of a Philippine farmer and the family shows more over there than here as they get older.  Papa sleeps in his own bed and mama sleeps with the girls in a 2 bedroom house.   In that I may have a little advantage as not looking so old coz I have kept myself in good shape with my Martial Arts all these years.  
On relationships and age again I have an older renter in his late 50’s who just had his wife die of cancer, she was Japanese and in her early 30’s I see tears in his eyes whenever he talks about her.   He watched his younger wife die and said he won’t marry again.
David Letterman is married to a younger wife, you can research but I believe she is much younger and he is in his late 50’s.   He even joked about when his kids are teenagers and make the most trouble he’ll be dead LOL.  
I was first impressed with a couple here in Daytona the wife is from Dipalog in Mindanao.  She is now 25 and her husband is as old as me, she met her husband through a magazine add years ago when she was just 19.   They are married now 3 years and have made good friends with them coz she can’t wait for my wife to come over so they can speak visaya together and talk behind our back LOL.  They are a good example for me and give me lots of hope.
Yes, the age difference doesn’t seem to be as much of a problem in the Philippines as it is here.   So what is the cause?  It could be worrying about what others think.  
The Couples I met with the big age differences seemed happy and successful in their relationships they didn’t care if others didn’t approve.  I am sure when a large age difference fails there will be plenty of people on the bandwagon saying I told you so.  
Although my wife is young she has a way of carrying herself that makes here seem older.   We met through introduction and Maricel never used the internet before I met her.   Later she proved to be a real bad chat mate for many months before she got the hang of things.   Even now she doesn’t like to go to the email café’s but goes coz it is the only way we can communicate.   Her English is ok but has trouble communicating her feelings on the chat.   Her mail and letters are warm and from the heart and our phone chats are the best.  She knows the phone is expensive and doesn’t want me to call to often to save money.    
Once I arrived in the US in Feb 03 I tried to get her to meet me on yahoo and chat on a regular bases.  Yup, you guessed it, at first she would always be late or not come on the chat at all.  I would expect it and joke about it.  It was not easy to get on line when she was going to school and she had lots of chores to do as payment for school with her aunt.  Emails were every other day or so.   I have to add here that had I only met her through email introduction I would not have been attracted or interested in her or her pictures.   Now I recommend in using the email or chats to make friends first to meet them in person and after that getting more personal.  You won’t get involved with a relationship that asks for money or cell phones before you actually have met them.    

A combination of things has kept us together to the point that we got married.   The 2 month motorcycle trip together bonded us to the point that we missed each other when we were apart.   Being German I was not the most romantic guy on the planet.   I felt great when we were together.  This was not based on a sexual relationship as I know there has to be much more to last for years to come.  I had never been with a virgin before and knowing that it was given up for me had a profound impact on me.  I saw it as a total commitment and life long relationship with me.   What about kids?  Well we talked about it; most girls her age when married are already pregnant.   When we were in the mandatory seminar for the marriage license lots of girls were already pregnant.   There was no attempt on my wife’s part to not get pregnant.  So Ray and the others warned me to take control over that.  Most girls know that if they were ever to remarry and they have children it would be difficult.   So that was another way of saying that she was totally committed.  
Well it would be a great experience to raise a kid even in my age.   I we talked about it and would like to have two.  Maricel wants to start right away.  I would wait till everything settles down, I could dedicate more time now than when I was younger to raise a child.   All this has been done before by men as old as me successfully, I would work to be one of them.   When our kids are 18, 20 and ready to leave the house I will be in my 80’s and time for me to retire LOL.   As I remember it Grandparents raise kids better than some of the parents anyway.  They have more time, experience and patience.  So I would be a parent with the experience and wisdom of grand parents.   It is a good team coz she will have the youth and extra energy.  What about when I get too old to take care of myself?   Couple of things can happen, I go to the VA nursing home which I would have ended up if I didn’t get married anyway or if I am lucky she will take care of me, I am still no worse off by getting married.   My Mom is 82 in Feb 04 and going strong, buying and selling houses driving and taking care of herself.  .   Yes when my wife is 45 I may need some assistance or maybe not.   If I die early she will have the estate and some Social Security.  My grandparents all lasted into their mid 90’s one great grandfather made it to 101.   I believe that if I take care of her now there is a good chance she will take care of me later.   Well wishful thinking perhaps but if she does leave it was still worth the chance and I would do it again.   I knew all the things that could happen when I went into the relationship and all I have to go on is my trust in her that she will still love me years from now.  
I had a gf in England who was from California stationed with me.  We dated for over a year.  I had a spin injury from a military parachute jump.  I was sent to Texas to rehabilitate after surgery.  No, she did not come to see me;   she heard I may be crippled for the rest of my life.  I was alone for 2 years.  So now I feel I have a better chance than back then in the hospital wondering if I would get a letter or phone call feeling like Roger Dangerfield.

About the white wedding, I have mentioned that before that I have been invited to countless weddings with cakes as big as a car; in the church with the mothers crying.   It didn’t guarantee that there would be no divorce; many white weddings didn’t make it.   What about not counting a civil wedding as really being married.  And later waiting for the younger guy to get married to in a Church to be really recognized?   Well if a girl can lie to herself in that way I sure wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end.   If a girl gets divorced from an older guy and tells the younger guy it didn’t count coz it was just a civil wedding she would be on the high risk list for anyone including the poor guy she marries in the church LOL.
She sounds like justifying her actions, but people when they want too will justify anything.    
In the end there is no guarantee not to get a divorce in spite of all the ceremony’s, cakes, church wedding, and mothers crying.    

To me it is the two people who have committed to each other beyond any papers and ceremony that have made a bond of loyalty friendship and trust that will make it.   I had a Filipina call me on the phone here in the USA she had just gotten married using the fiancé visa.   We chatted for months with me from the Philippines before she was married.  She was not in love with her then fiancé now husband but she trusted him and knew he was loyal to her.  Last we talked she was going to commit to him 100% coz he was a good man.  She was 25 and he was 42 with a middle income.    With that attitude I believe she would make a good wife and real love takes time to develop.  
I know there are some who no matter what, will disagree and when you meet me and my wife you can always say “Is that your daughter?”
Peter Lee

... in response to Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by Peter Lee on Nov 24, 2003

peter lee=walker

... in response to Re: Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by bryan on Nov 25, 2003

I think you could be on to something! Hummmmmmmm...
Hum

... in response to Peter Lee= The Walker?, posted by Humabdos on Nov 25, 2003

Walker is at least a 5 star general by now, and has taken over central command in Irag!  LOL

Steveb

... in response to Peter Lee= The Walker?, posted by Humabdos on Nov 25, 2003

uhmm.....Peter Lee's spelling is much worse than The Walker's spelling. Could it be a ruse to throw off the trackers?

Tune it next week, same batchannel, same battime.

... in response to Both are combat veterans, posted by Matt on Nov 25, 2003


Yes guys dis is my zecond lanage dank Got for spell check LOL
Vas is dis Walker guy?
You know I have been American so long I forgot my German.  Now I can't spell either OH WELL!
Why do I suspect some condescending attitude?
Harben Sie eine guten tag

... in response to Re: Both are combat veterans, posted by Peter Lee on Nov 26, 2003

[This message has been edited by Matt]

Hi Peter,

Please sir, mein guter kamerad, I don't have a condescending attitude toward you.

I just saw someone joke about the Walker and you and I thought I would joke about your spelling. Only teasing sir!

The Walker was a long time poster and some members thought that his posts were pure fiction. As for me, I enjoyed reading them. He was an ex-SF member who got recalled and he also had a .50 caliber sniper rifle that he took to Afganistan and some members criticised his wife (because she had to stay at the ranch) also as being fiction. If the stories weren't true, they still put a lot of effort into them, so I didn't criticise The Walker. I always found their posts entertaining.

So I don't know why anyone was joking here about you, but I just posted to kid you about your spelling.

As for military combat experience, I respect all veterans and appreciate your service.

http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/asian/archives/display.php?archive=000126&id=40780

http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/asian/archives/display.php?archive=000126&id=40776

http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/asian/archives/display.php?archive=000126&id=40691

http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/search/searchdisplay.php?page=asian&archive=000107&id=35546&bold[]=walker

But Peter, I thought you knew who Don and Vicky were (aka The Walker) because you posted about him.

... in response to Only respect for you, posted by Matt on Nov 26, 2003

Hey, your posts brought back memories.  The Walkers were fun posts for sure.  I got in on the end before they no longer posted.  As I suspected the Walkers never did contacted me.  I sure would have wanted some of my questions answered.   About my spelling, well I am not sensative about it, not to worry.   I was raised in Australian as a refugee after the war.  We had one teacher for 6 grades all fighting for her attention.   I did try my best with the education I had to do my best on the spelling in these posts.  Now that the cat's out of the bag I may as well just stop the spellcheck and let you see how bad my spelling really is LOL.  

On that note maybe you can comment on my wife and how she has graduated from 2 years of Collage and has a poorer spelling background than me.   Yes she was raised in the mountains in Kapatagan in Mindanao.   I noticed the Filipinas from Cebu or Manila area seemed to have better command of the English language and better spelling.  I assumed like in this country that most schools had the same standards.  How are the standards in the PI?  Do all the schools in the various isands have differnt standards?

Thanks for the nice post Matt

... in response to Only respect for you, posted by Matt on Nov 26, 2003

Hey I thought the bull sperm business he ran was the best. He was rich from the sperm bank he ran I guess I am in the wrong field. Now how much would workers cost to collect the sperm because I am not a hands on type of guy!

... in response to Both are combat veterans, posted by Matt on Nov 25, 2003

Then again maybe it's you?...
Hum

... in response to Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by Peter Lee on Nov 24, 2003

Hi Peter,

You know the line "Is that your daughter?" is pure bullshe-it, unless of course one is Asian also. No problems so far this time around (17 year age difference). I had been called "Animal" and attacked with umbrellas by several old Cuban women with my ex. I found the situation hilarious and laughed my ass off, which made them more pissed! I know several Fil/Am 35+ age difference couples who are still going strong well past the green card stage.

Dave H.

... in response to Filipina and big age gap, posted by Febtember on Nov 22, 2003

[This message has been edited by Dave H]

..."hot young american" on a big sexy tractor. ;o)))

Dave H.

... in response to Or a..., posted by Dave H on Nov 23, 2003

Yup your right Dave hot young american on bigger tractor .But I never see any of that in here LOL.I'm kind of wonder too why no young farmer anymore and my husband say that young and beginners farmer need lot's of money to start unless of course if he inherit the ground but farming cost to much money.Even if they want to rent the ground but still they have to pay  high rent and of course some big old farmer here rent lot's of ground.The young one can't get any chance to start farming.
Anyway those filipina  friend I have which happen to be my nieghbor in philippines live in Georgia.I dont think that she want to live here because if she ever happen to live here I'm sure she still with her first husband.Most young hot american live  and move in the city I think .Raquel

... in response to Re: Or a..., posted by Febtember on Nov 23, 2003

He hehe
I think when I get my wife here I will keep her out of the big city.  That way I can keep her a few years longer away from those hot young American guys.  No more young farmers?  I thought the ecomomy was getting better.      Oh well

... in response to Re: Or a..., posted by Febtember on Nov 23, 2003

[This message has been edited by Dave H]

"She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy" by Kenny Chesney

"Plowing these fields in the hot summer sun
Over by the gate, Lordy here she comes
With a basket full of chicken and a big cold jug of sweet tea

I make a little room and she climbs on up
Open up the throttle and stir a little dust
Just look at her face
She ain't a foolin' me

(Chorus)
She thinks my tractor's sexy
It really turns her on
She's always staring at me
While I'm chugging along

She likes the way it's pullin' while we're tilling up the land
She's even kinda crazy 'bout my farmers' tan
She the only one who really understands
What gets me
She thinks my tractor's sexy

We ride back and forth 'til we run outta light
Take it to the barn, put it up for the night
Climb up in the loft
Sit and talk with the radio on

She says she's gotta dream
And I ask what it is
She wants a little farm
And a yard full of kids
And one more teenie weenie ride
Before I take her home

She thinks my tractor's sexy
It really turns her on
She's always staring at me
While I'm chugging along

She likes the way it's pullin' while we're tillin' up the land
She's even kinda crazy 'bout my farmers' tan
She's the only one who really understands
What gets me
She thinks my tractor's sexy

Well she ain't into cars or pickup trucks
But if it runs like a Deere
Man her eyes light up

She thinks my tractor... she thinks my tractor's sexy
It really turns her on
She's always staring at me
While I'm chugging along

She likes the way it's pullin' while we're tilling up the land
She's even kinda crazy 'bout my farmers' tan
She's the only one who really understands
What gets me
She thinks my tractor's sexy

She thinks my tractor's sexy

She thinks my tractor's sexy"

My wife always enjoyed riding the carabao, but it wasn't sexy and smelled kind of bad. ;o)))

Dave H.

... in response to "She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy", posted by Dave H on Nov 23, 2003

Tractor story girl - Jerry's girlfriend that calls him and says "it's me" and Jerry asks if it is Elaine or even George. Jerry decides to give her a dose of her own medicine so he calls her and says "its me" as well. She thinks Jerry is Roy and speaks about the tractor story. Jerry quickly aborts the covert phone operation on George's cue. Jerry then ponders what the tractor story is. George thinks it means that she lost her toes in an accident and has toe thumbs.

Jerry finally discovers that the tractor story refers to how his girlfriend caught gonorrhea.

Does this have any relevance? Nope. I just thought of the "Tractor story", that's all. lol

... in response to Seinfeld "Tractor Story"? Anyo..., posted by Matt on Nov 24, 2003

I thought you guys were talking about this (upper right picture)

http://www.geocities.com/raquel_forones/foronesweitekamp2gether.html

- Jeff

... in response to Filipina and big age gap, posted by Febtember on Nov 22, 2003

I'm in my late 80s and my wife is in her early teens. People are always saying "Hey, is that your great granddaughter?" but then I show them my balance sheet and they almost alwats say "OHHH, I get it!" But they really don't. The real truth icmes out when I show them my father-in-law's balamce sheet and thay say. "holy sh!t! NOW I get it!" But if you REALY want the truth, just take a look at www.bigjohnson.com and you'll see why all the ladies flock to me.

Hopefully everyone got a good laugh at that last paragraph (though the part about the big balance sheet and big johnson are all true.) I guess my point is, if she starts looking for someone else because your (balance sheet/age/johnson/whatever) aren't up to snuff with what she can get today, now that she's a bona fide resident of the land of the free and home of the brave, repeat after the new governor of California and say. "hasta la vista, Baby..."

- Jeff

... in response to True Raquel....., posted by Jeff S on Nov 22, 2003

Your on the wrong forum Jeff this the Asian forum not the Latin forum LOL

... in response to True Raquel....., posted by Jeff S on Nov 22, 2003

If a man is able to go overseas because he knows he can get more for his balance in terms of age,looks ect. Why should he be suprised if the reverse happens when she comes to the U.S. and the younger guys start hitting on her?
  We men actually want to believe most foreign women are not into looks or age, just us. But realistically most of these women would preffer a man closer to their age given a choice. I was suprised on my trips to the Philippines,so many of my fiance's friends (even those who were engaged) asked me if I knew guys my age to introduce them to. they keep telling my fiance she is lucky to find a younger guy.
      Mark
   

... in response to Re: True Raquel....., posted by mar33 on Nov 23, 2003

Hi Mark,
Your just too nice, I was just having fun being the devil’s advocate.  Your right though the younger the women the higher the risk.   The younger the men she chooses the higher the risk of him cheating.   Like my wife says “it is nature”  boys will be boys.   Yes there are always exceptions but the divorce rate is very low with Filipinas coz generally the age of the men are older than the women.   It seems to be a working formula and everyone is happy.  Yes I think they all would like a to marry someone there own age, there are plenty of men in the PI to make that happen.   So why don’t they then Mark???  They have the chance the men and women population are very close.   Maybe you can tell me why so many marry older men and foreigners?   My wife may like a younger man, but she wanted a stable and secure relationship where she can raise kids without problems.  I just happen to qualify but I am a bit older hehehe.   They may ask about other relationships that have younger men to see how they worked out.  My wife and I had this discussion a few times and she told me that there are plenty of nice young men available that have a nice job and are loyal.  My wife’s older sister is married to a young husband and have a 2 year old son.  He works for the city and has a good job.  My wife points out that her Papa is a good man who is loyal and hard working.  But her papa is 18 years older than her mama.   I am sure my wife thinks about how it would have been marrying a younger local man.   But we have bonded and committed to each other now.  It is a large responsibility to marry someone so young.  Right now I am still waiting for the K3 visa to take its course.  So far so good, I hope the many young men in my school will have her think she is lucky she has me LOL.  
Till nest time
Peter Lee

... in response to Re: True Raquel....., posted by mar33 on Nov 23, 2003

True Mar33 true,
I guess all us older guys will put our tails between our legs and crawl under the bed.  
What if us older guys start hitting on the younger guys women?  We are have more experience, settled down, don't play around any more, one woman men, want to travel and have fun, retired with money and a chance for you to get all the assets when we die in a few years LOL  
Real women know what they want.
If she is lucky to find a younger hot guy who will attract lots of hot women, who will cheat on you, get bored, have financial problems, stuck with a workaholic job, fix the car on the weekend to save money and get a divorce within 7 years leaving  you with a few kids as a souvenir  
Real lucky?

... in response to Re: Re: True Raquel....., posted by Peter Lee on Nov 24, 2003

Peter,
    Why do you associate younger men with irresponsibility and unfaithfulness? Is their age what made you come to that conclusion? I know plenty of men under 40 who are extremely successful,loyal and make great husbands and fathers.I myself have a business that is growing every year.

  Are only young men irresponsible? Cannot the same be said then of a young woman who really is too young to know what she wants. She may have a different prespective on life(Just as the Filippinas in Raquels post) once in a different environment like the U.S. So that can be a gamble.
   Just like the scenario with the younger guys you talk about,the same can happen with her. She will attract good looking men and may be tempted to cheat. May gets bored because most of the young women around her age are at the stage in life where they are having fun have no responsibilities ect? She will also notice that regardless you may think, Filippina women are very attractive to AM and not just a few .Most younger guys will not travel but that does not mean they are not interested.
   
   By the way, I am not trying to toot my horn here and say I am anything special. Kreeger had also observed many of the Filippinas he met were interested in knowing if he had young single friends back in the U.S. and thought his wife lucky to have found a man close to her age,so it was not just my experience.

  Your wife may be completely different than most young girls. She may have a preferrence for older men and may not care what anyone eles thinks. That would be great.
    Good luck,
        Mark

... in response to Re: Re: Re: True Raquel....., posted by mar33 on Nov 24, 2003

Hi Mark,
Your just too nice, I was just having fun being the devil’s advocate.  Your right though the younger the women the higher the risk.   The younger the men she chooses the higher the risk of him cheating.   Like my wife says “it is nature”  boys will be boys.   Yes there are always exceptions but the divorce rate is very low with Filipinas coz generally the age of the men are older than the women.   It seems to be a working formula and everyone is happy.  Yes I think they all would like a to marry someone there own age, there are plenty of men in the PI to make that happen.   So why don’t they then Mark???  They have the chance the men and women population are very close.   Maybe you can tell me why so many marry older men and foreigners?   My wife may like a younger man, but she wanted a stable and secure relationship where she can raise kids without problems.  I just happen to qualify but I am a bit older hehehe.   They may ask about other relationships that have younger men to see how they worked out.  My wife and I had this discussion a few times and she told me that there are plenty of nice young men available that have a nice job and are loyal.  My wife’s older sister is married to a young husband and have a 2 year old son.  He works for the city and has a good job.  My wife points out that her Papa is a good man who is loyal and hard working.  But her papa is 18 years older than her mama.   I am sure my wife thinks about how it would have been marrying a younger local man.   But we have bonded and committed to each other now.  It is a large responsibility to marry someone so young.  Right now I am still waiting for the K3 visa to take its course.  So far so good, I hope the many young men in my school will have her think she is lucky she has me LOL.  
Till nest time
Peter Lee

... in response to Re: True Raquel....., posted by mar33 on Nov 23, 2003

"If a man is able to go overseas because he knows he can get more for his balance in terms of age, looks ect." The operative word there is 'IF.'  That's not why a lot of men look overseas.

- Jeff

... in response to Filipina and big age gap, posted by Febtember on Nov 22, 2003

What you posted is old news. Risky to bring a Foreigner here, safer to keep Her in RP looooooool

... in response to Hi Raquel..Good Post, posted by greg on Nov 22, 2003

Lots of guys do that, marry and keep em over there.

... in response to Hi Raquel..Good Post, posted by greg on Nov 22, 2003

Hey Greg,
How's little Gregory doing?Good to see you here.Raquel

... in response to Re: Hi Raquel..Good Post, posted by Febtember on Nov 23, 2003

I'm proud of little gregory, he's attending two private schools. Caring for him alone as a single Parent is kinda difficult, but I'm happy that he's here and not there in RP. How is little handsome Matthew??? Btw, gregory is only 3 years old..he wear clothes that fit a 5 year old..right now he's 3 feet 5 inches tall, weight 50lbs ..Unbelievable

... in response to Filipina and big age gap, posted by Febtember on Nov 22, 2003

Hey Feb, I only got that silly question once. It was a gate guard checking ID's at the Navy base entrance. I told him "No, that's my granddaughter you silly boy!"  I would have said something else, but he was carrying a loaded M-16 (LOL!)

Did you ask your friend if she wore white at her wedding? Wouldn't that be ironic if she got some dreaded disease and her husband had to change HER diapers? Just thinking out load. Anyway, it’s all her husband’s fault…he should have picked an ugly one! :-)

Ray

... in response to Is that your daughter?, posted by Ray on Nov 22, 2003

Ray, I didn't see any ugly ones.  Where are they now?

Anyway I asked the Philippine men why they arn't mad at us foreigners for taking their women.  

They said it's ok we have such bad taste we only take the ugly ones and leave the pretty ones for them LOL.  

OFFICIAL LOCAL TRUE STORY: NSO 325-BullS+@t
Told to me in the Cebu police station by qualified plain clothed agents who would for a small fee fix any violation on your license.

... in response to Re: Is that your daughter?, posted by Peter Lee on Nov 24, 2003

Hi Peter,

Filipinos seem to think that mestizas are beautiful...a hold-over from Spanish colonial times. I find many of the mestiza movie stars to be friggin' butt ugly.

Dave H.

... in response to Filipina and big age gap, posted by Febtember on Nov 22, 2003

Wow, even though I know this happens, it is still shocking to read.  It really makes me sad what people do.

I've been at this 5 years and am ready to give up; it seems safer. Even with so many people in the world, it has been hard to find an honest person.

Jon

... in response to Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by jon on Nov 22, 2003

What happened to "rather love and lost than never loved at all?"  
You been to the PI yet Jon?

Seen a bunch of honest ones who returned stuff I lost on the ferry.  Pig farmers women are mostly honest chicken farmers too.  Gotta go down there to meetem.  

... in response to Re: Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by Peter Lee on Nov 24, 2003

What happened to "rather love and lost than never loved at all?"

--I never said that, the person musta been drunk.

You been to the PI yet Jon?

---Yes, once to Cebu.  I am actually one of the old ones here as I have been on this forum as long as Ray and Tom.

Jon

... in response to Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by jon on Nov 22, 2003

Find the one not looking for you.  

When I met my wife she was just someone wanting to chat.  I literally had to court her and prove my value as a mate because her plans had never included being married but working to support her family.  She didn't claim she loved me in the first few months (or in her posts like some of the others).  Never asked for anything and refused any offers of assistance.  She was willing to answer all my questions honestly (and I never lied or exagerated to her questions).

I think the safest way is and always will be through introduction.  I have seen several stories like Febtember's going both ways (guys who took advantage of the girls and of course visa versa).  But I know some awesome Filipinas here who make outcasts of "bad girls" like that and refuse to be around them, my wife included.  When you find someone like that you can trust then you can be sure that any introduction she makes for you will be supportive even after that introduction is here.  Right now I am helping 3 different guys find Filipinas to write and 6 Filipinas find guys.  All of these Filipinas are sisters of Filipinas in successful Fil-Am relationships.   The guys I am helping I let know from the beginning that I value the friendships my wife and I have made here and we'll only help nice guys with serious intent.  Lots of guys ask but as soon as they see whats involved they usually drop into the background.  I've gotten to where I make a guy ask at least twice and then I tell him the difficulties I have seen (like Febtember's story) every negative about long distance relationships I dealt with.  Not many ask again.

Lastly, prayer.  Pray likes its up to Heavenly Father and search like its up to you.  Works everytime because family is what he is all about.

Bear and Honey.

... in response to Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by jon on Nov 22, 2003

Jon;

Finding an honest one can be a real challenge sometimes. Perhaps stop and take some time to figure out if something may wrong with your approach.

Are you meeting them the wrong places? The 'gold diggers' and scammers have infilterated the internet dating sites. Very hard to find a good one that way, but they ARE there, you just have to figure out how to tell the difference.

Are you telling them the wrong things to give them the wrong impression? This is a sure way to set yourself up to be taken advantage of.

Is there some way you can alter your search method to 'weed out' the bad ones early on, so you don't waste valuable time on them?

The 'old timers' here know what kind of trouble I reported trying to find an honest one. Read my response to the 'Filipinas and money' string below. If you want more detail, email me privately.

Larry.

shadownseiko@nospam.com

... in response to Re: Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by shadow on Nov 22, 2003

We might come and visit you this summer.  Honey's family is moving to Bohol (we think) and I've always wanted to see Dumaguete.

Bear and Honey

... in response to Hey Larry, posted by Bear on Nov 22, 2003

Please do! Nice town. nice people!!

Bohol is nice too!

Larry.

... in response to Re: Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by shadow on Nov 22, 2003

I was happy to read about your good fortune with your new wife there in the Philippines. Serving Food Buffets there can run you out of business fast, you might as well open a free soup kitchen.

... in response to Re: Filipina and big age gap, posted by jon on Nov 22, 2003

Hang in there and keep looking Jon. There are plenty of honest ones out there.

But if you are 60 and you marry a hot-looking teenager, just be aware that the odds are definitely against you. Have you considered an ugly one? :-)

Ray

... in response to Don't give up!, posted by Ray on Nov 22, 2003

Never give up! Never surrender!! Um, sounds like a movie.

Well I'm not 60, but about to hit 40, people think I am in my twenties mostly.  

I spent 8 plus months e-mailing and phoning a pinay in HK.  One day I had a asian male's voice on my answering machine say he was a friend of hers.  I asked her through mail 3 times about it before she answered.  It was as I had only asked once, the answer was way too long and detailed and did not have the flow of her other mails like she had to keep stoping to see how honest it sounded, and kept embelishing.  The answer was he was a sales guy from a long distance company. Right, I am stupid, rich, american.  Well I am only one of those 3. I stopped writing her.

Jon