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I've noticed lately topics and questions about finding an honest woman, finding an unmaterialistic woman, and age diferences.

I don't know if this will help anyone but I intentionally had a series of tests that had to passed perfectly. My basic requirements were aged 21-30, I'm 36, never married, and no children. Beyond that there were tests of character and commitment.

She had to be available for almost daily chats at her own expense.
She had to chat in a cafe with a webcam. She could never, ever, ask for moneyI made notes of things she said, and repeated my questions later. I even changed the original date I told her I would visit to see if she waited another four months. Having a few simple standards helped me sort through a very large number of ladies online in a very short time.

Ron

... in response to Testing Filipinas, posted by NOX1967 on Nov 23, 2003

I think something went wrong there! Whatever it was it got a lot of response, mostly bad. What I did obviously wasn't as bad as that must of sounded because everything worked out well.
Ron

... in response to Maybe that didn't come out right!? LOL , posted by NOX1967 on Nov 25, 2003

[This message has been edited by Dave H]

Hi Ron,

I am happy that everything worked out well for you. I just think that someone using your chat criteria test would pass over many fantastic women...my wife didn't even come close.
I suppose that I had my own criteria, much of it not really thought about. I knew I didn't want a smoker or drinker. I soon realized that I was fortunate that my wife is also not a cellphone fanatic. I saw too many Filipinas walking around with their eyes glued to their cellphones, sending and receiving  text messages. I see many Latinas every day talking non-stop to friends while they ignore the person they are with. That would definately be a reason for me to say "Asta la vista, Baby!"

Dave H.

... in response to The Terminator, posted by Dave H on Nov 25, 2003

Hey Dave, speaking of Terminators…

Remember recently when the California legislature passed that stupid-ass law allowing illegal aliens to get a California Driver’s License, and a-hole ex-guv Davis signed it so the Latinos would all vote for him against the recall? Well, our new Governator had a little talk with the legislature and the California Senate just voted 33-0 to overturn the law. Even the bill’s author voted to overturn it! I don’t know what Ahnold said to them Democrats, but they sure seem scared… ROTFLMGDAOCUMFL!

Ray

... in response to Re: The Terminator, posted by Ray on Nov 26, 2003

Hi Ray,

ROTFLMGDAOCUMFLT! It looks like the Governator is off to a good start!

Dave H.

... in response to Maybe that didn't come out right!? LOL , posted by NOX1967 on Nov 25, 2003

Have you ever stepped in tae and come out smelling like a rose?
Hum

... in response to Testing Filipinas, posted by NOX1967 on Nov 23, 2003

You are a hopeless romantic! Please report back to us after you have courted,married and lived together for a few years.
Maybe you are on to something.

... in response to Testing Filipinas, posted by NOX1967 on Nov 23, 2003

if you continue to follow this principle you will miss out on the best ones.

Good to test, but find some different criteria to condemn on. Some of the best ones are not going to be able to go to the internet cafe every day.

Just my opinion.

Larry.

... in response to I assure you..., posted by shadow on Nov 24, 2003

Hi Larry,

I agree! My lady would have failed the "Internet Test" and I would have missed out on a wonderful woman. Mostly school girls and groups of teenagers have time for this. My wife had responsibilities in her life and didn't have time for regular Internet chatting or the cellphone text messaging that you so many girls constantly doing. The expense involved for Internet access on a daily basis, let along web-cam chat, would have been cost prohibitive. After we married and she returned to the Philippines to visit, her laptop and camera were a life saver.

Dave H.

... in response to Testing Filipinas, posted by NOX1967 on Nov 23, 2003

Go getem Ron

... in response to Testing Filipinas, posted by NOX1967 on Nov 23, 2003

I think the daily internet at her expense may prove a hardship on some otherwise desireable and legitimate ladies. I would back it down to always there for a scheduled phone call or chat on MY dime. But MISSING a scheduled phone/chatroom date more than once and can't produce an 'ambulance bill or arrest report' or something at least as convincing of an excuse would be a no-no.

... in response to Re: Testing Filipinas, posted by Michael B on Nov 23, 2003

A voice of reason!  Yes

... in response to Re: Testing Filipinas, posted by Michael B on Nov 23, 2003

You’re right Michael that using the internet daily can be a hardship on the ladies, but not just because of the monetary costs.

I think demanding that a lady be available for on-line chatting at YOUR convenience is not only unrealistic in most cases, but probably downright selfish. If I had enforced your rule of demanding a valid excuse every time she missed a “scheduled” phone or chat-room date, I wouldn’t be married to my wonderful wife today.

I think too many guys tend to take this Internet thing for granted. We come home from work, kick off our shoes, grab a beer and turn on the computer. Simple, isn’t it? But it isn’t that simple for the ladies over there. On a fairly typical day, my wife would have to get dressed, go outside in either the blazing heat or a torrential downpour, catch a tricycle downtown, and go to her favorite Internet Café. Often, the store would be closed or the Internet connection was down. So, she would walk several blocks to another Internet joint, often to find a dozen people or more waiting in line for a computer, which could take an hour ort two of waiting patiently if she was lucky. She may have to go to all 4-5 Internet cafes in town sometimes and still not get on a computer.

If she was lucky enough to get on line, she had to put up with flaky equipment and slow connections. It would often take 15-20 minutes just to open her email account. All too often, she would type a long message only to have the connection drop and everything she had written lost in cyberspace. On-line chats were frequently interrupted when the connection dropped at her end or the computer had to be rebooted. There were days that she spent 5-6 hours out of the day just to try to send me an-mail or get to chat with me. At other times, she was never successful in getting on line and had to go home hungry and tired. Did she complain? No. Was I disappointed? Sometimes. Did I complain? No, because I had been there and witnessed the difficulty you sometimes have to go through just to get on line to check your e-mail.

I’m afraid that your strict criteria would likely limit your choices to a relatively few ladies living in a major city with their own personal computer and a reliable Internet connection, which probably eliminates 99.99% of the population of the Philippines. My whole point is that it is usually valuable to keep things in perspective and try to be understanding and considerate of what some of these ladies must go through just to communicate with us in this day of “modern” communications.

Ray

... in response to Another Perspective, posted by Ray on Nov 24, 2003

Hi Ray,

"On a fairly typical day, my wife would have to get dressed, go outside in either the blazing heat or a torrential downpour, catch a tricycle downtown, and go to her favorite Internet Café. Often, the store would be closed or the Internet connection was down. So, she would walk several blocks to another Internet joint, often to find a dozen people or more waiting in line for a computer, which could take an hour ort two of waiting patiently if she was lucky. She may have to go to all 4-5 Internet cafes in town sometimes and still not get on a computer."

So much for making the scheduled chat appointment. LOL My wife knew very little about the Internet and had to wait until her younger sister was available to assist her. Let's not forget that during monsoon season, they may have to exit the tricycle or jeepney and wade through chest deep water to reach the Internet cafe. I was so frustrated just trying to read my emails and Planet-Love (unable to post as well) while in the Philippines that I finally gave up and waited until I returned home to catch up.

Dave H.

... in response to Another Perspective, posted by Ray on Nov 24, 2003

I understand the possibility of technical diffuculties. OK, I'll backtrack a little bit......I just said the 'ambulance' stuff for effect, let's say I exagerrated. I was trying to distinguish between she legitametly can't afford the money to pay it herself (which the first post said was a requirement or she was automaticaly disqualified) vs. she's not 'availble' or 'doesn't make the effort'.

What I was thinking was more along the line the line of you have a date for a phone call at a specific time. You call, good connection, Mommy answers and says "She's not here, don't know where, don't know when"....if this happens too often (twice? 3 times? 20 times? your judgement call) and she offers no excuse (or not a GOOD excuse) THEN you cut her off. Miss an internaet date becasue of the scenario you described? Forgiven, IF the next time you phone/internet chat or email she volunteers "Man, I had the worst luck tyring to meet you on the internet last Tuesday......".

... in response to Another Perspective, posted by Ray on Nov 24, 2003

I guess that means the ladies in Kapatagan are off Ron's list LOL   They have to travel over an hour to the email cafe in the next town.  If she finally gets on she gets bumped off a few times.   I tried to make a schedule for us to meet on the chat.  Today she was an hour early coz there were no dogs sleeping on the road and her sister volenteered to feed the pigs. I however I anticipated the off schedule coz she has trained me well.  Funny when I got back after my long trip over there I never had time to email anyone back home as scheduled.  I think I caught Island time fever and lost track.  Oh well!

... in response to Another Perspective, posted by Ray on Nov 24, 2003

I agree and I would guess that the only Filipina able to stick to such a strict schedule would be the ones that either work at the internet cafes, or have no job or school to go to.  I would not want to choose a Filipina that has nothing else to do in her life except hang out at the internet cafes or wait for a phone call. Also, life in the Phils can be very unpredictable. You never know when a blackout or a flood or even just a holiday is going to screw-up everything.  Ray is right, I have spent as much as 45 minutes just trying to open my Hotmail before giving up.

Don

... in response to I agree and ...., posted by don2222 on Nov 24, 2003

I was in Boracay and tried to get a message home.  On my second day I got through.  Cost 40P per hour no web cam available.

... in response to Another Perspective, posted by Ray on Nov 24, 2003

Ray,

   If one really thinks that such tight standards were possible, one has not spent much time in the Philippines
dealing with the shaky infrastructure  there or all the other 101 things that get in the way that would have little
relation to what kind of lady she was.

... in response to Ray is right, posted by Nathan on Nov 24, 2003

Well said.

... in response to Ray is right, posted by Nathan on Nov 24, 2003

It's not only possible but it works, especially if one is searching through a major agency, like I did. I knew that anyone not willing to ever be inconvienced was probably not legit.

While chatting on CB, I was chatting to probably a dozen different ladies every single day, many would ask for money so we could continue to chat regularly and get to know each other within minutes of meeting. Obviously they were eliminated from my consideration. The ones that did not ask for money and still wanted to chat regularly were in my opinion showing some willingness to be a part of this process.

After several monthes I had found a few ladies that I liked and chatted only with them. At that point, since they had not asked I helped them with funds to continue chatting. After another month or so of daily chats I asked one lady if she wanted to chat exclusively with each other. Everything has gone great ever since.

I think maybe some of you probably met your lady by a different method than I did. But when using a huge agency, like Cherry Blossoms, with thousands and thousands of ladies actively seeking out the men I felt it was neccesary to very quickly narrow the field.

I'm actually not a heartless sob unaware of the problems of the Philippines!

Ron

... in response to Re: Ray is right, posted by NOX1967 on Nov 24, 2003

Cherry Blossom Cherry Blossomss?  Cherry Blossoms?

I didn't know all the young inocent farm girls were in Cherry Blossoms.  I thought Cherry Blossoms was a commerialized agencey that I should avoid at all costs $$ LOL  

... in response to Re: Re: Ray is right, posted by Peter Lee on Nov 24, 2003

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Have you guys noticed that almost every Filipina mentions in her ad that she is a simple person.  Where did that come from ?? Why do they all call themselves simple ??  I understand that they are trying to say that they lead a simple life, but it is just funny to me that about 90% of the women call themselves simple.

Don

... in response to Good luck finding a simple girl...., posted by don2222 on Nov 24, 2003

Yes and harmless too.  Simple and harmless.  

A person of humble birth or condition. [Middle English,  from Latin simplus;
Pure.
8. Not guileful or deceitful; sincere.
9. Humble or lowly in condition or rank: a simple woodcutter.
10. Ordinary or common:

2. Not involved or complicated;
4. Having little or no ornamentation; not embellished or adorned: a simple dress. 5. Not elaborate, elegant, or luxurious. See Synonyms at  plain.
6. Unassuming or unpretentious; not affected.

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Looking for a man who is harmless
harm•less (härm“l¹s) adj. 1. Incapable of causing harm. harm“less•ly adv. --harm“less•ness n.

My wife is simple and I am harmless

How about you Don?

... in response to Re: Good luck finding a simple girl...., posted by Peter Lee on Nov 24, 2003

n/t means no text

... in response to I am simply harmless ......    :0)........., posted by don2222 on Nov 24, 2003

You qualify go answer the adds if you're simple

... in response to Re: Testing Filipinas, posted by Michael B on Nov 23, 2003

Or perhaps I should say, she had to be willing to chat at her expense. After we had chatted regularly at her expense without asking for money I offered to help.
Ron

... in response to Re: Re: Testing Filipinas, posted by NOX1967 on Nov 23, 2003

Wow Ron who buys the popcorn when you go to the movies?

... in response to Testing Filipinas, posted by NOX1967 on Nov 23, 2003

and i believe the lady should do the same thing to us men

... in response to Re: Testing Filipinas, posted by nealt on Nov 23, 2003

They will it just takes longer LOL

... in response to Re: Testing Filipinas, posted by nealt on Nov 23, 2003

nm