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http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_03/Ethnic_Bomb/ethnic_bomb.html

"A top North Korean scientist, working on a race-based bomb, has vanished. Was he taken by Western intelligence operatives or did the Chinese nab him?"

Perhaps another reason to be careful while in Asia?

... in response to Whites Only Biological Bomb by N. Korea?, posted by Matt on Sep 29, 2003

http://taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2003/09/07/2003066840

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/06/1062549064376.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/259222.stm

"Advances in genetic knowledge could be misused to develop powerful biological weapons that could be tailored to strike at specific ethnic groups, the British Medical Association has warned."

http://www.virginia.edu/topnews/releases2001/moreno-feb-20-2001.html

http://www.prima-news.ru/eng/news/news/2003/9/5/25763.html

http://www.stimson.org/cbw/?SN=CB2001121259#genetic

"Israel is working on an "ethnically targeted" biological weapon that would kill or harm Arabs but not Jews, according to Israeli military and western intelligence sources cited in a front-page report in the London Sunday Times, November 15, 1998 ("Israel Planning 'Ethnic' Bomb as Saddam Caves In," by Uzi Mahnaimi and Marie Colvin)."

... in response to More news on this story, posted by Matt on Oct 2, 2003

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"Israel is working on an "ethnically targeted" biological weapon that would kill or harm Arabs but not Jews, according to Israeli military and western intelligence sources cited in a front-page report in the London Sunday Times, November 15, 1998 ("Israel Planning 'Ethnic' Bomb as Saddam Caves In," by Uzi Mahnaimi and Marie Colvin)."

LOL I'm still not buying it. That would really be stupid since the Arabs and the Jews descended from the same people and are at most cousins, if not brothers and sisters. Looks like anti-Semitism to me. Its a hole lot simpler and safer to aim missiles.

Dave H.

... in response to Re: More news on this story, posted by Dave H on Oct 2, 2003

Bioethicist to discuss implications during AAAS symposium Feb. 20

International Concern Grows That Biological Weapons Could Target Ethnic Groups

"February 20, 2001-- What if terrorist groups, or a secret scientific organization sponsored by a nation, were to develop a biological weapon so precise it could target only members of a particular ethnic group? Is this kind of ethnic biological warfare already being planned? Are there adequate international laws in place to deter this kind of research and to punish the people involved?"

"These are questions that biomedical ethicist Jonathan Moreno of the University of Virginia will discuss during his talk "Biological Weapons and Policy Implications of Synthesized Genomes," on Feb. 20 at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in San Francisco."

"Moreno has served as senior staff for two Clinton administration advisory commissions, one on radiation experiments conducted on humans following WWII, and another on research conducted on people with impaired decision-making abilities. As a result of this work, he published the book "Undue Risk: Secret State Experiments on Humans," now available in paperback from Routledge."

Why am I not surprised to read the name "Clinton." Sounds like Moreno is trying to sell a book. He probably also wants more government to "protect us" and another Clinton in the White House so he can get his old job back. Geee...where can I buy that book in paperback again?

Ethnic -

1 : HEATHEN
2 a : of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background   b : being a member of an ethnic group c : of, relating to, or characteristic of

I wonder if they can target various religious groups with this "smart bomb?" Next thing you know Arnold will use it to target Spanish speakers in California. Sounds like "The Man" is at it again! Lets just hope it doesn't fall into Cruz Bustamante's hands. ROFLMAOPIMMFP!

Dave H.

... in response to What If?, posted by Dave H on Oct 2, 2003

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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/06/1062549064376.html

"Former US president Jimmy Carter has warned that the standoff between the US and North Korea is the world's "greatest threat"."

"This paranoid nation and the United States now are facing what I believe to be the greatest threat in the world to regional and global peace," Mr Carter said."

Sounds like we need to send Peanut Man over there to save us from this threat. Maybe while he's there he can turn the lights on and bring North Korea into the 21st Century...well, maybe into the 20th. A real nice guy, but not the sharpest tool in the shed. He's no Mr. Peanut. LOL

Dave H.

... in response to Peanut Man, posted by Dave H on Oct 2, 2003

Dave,
Number of times Saddam threatened to kill Americans
"before" we threatened to invaded his country...."Zero"

Number of Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or Afgahanistan that have been uncovered since the war began some months ago....."Zero"

Don't get me wrong I'm glad to see him gone for his own
countries sake.  Let me rephrase that....he's not gone
our war machine just hasn't found and killed him
yet or Bin Laden for that matter.  Hopefully Saddam will have the same ending as his son's with a bullet or two in the head.

Anyone who thinks Saddam was Ever an immediate threat or had
any intention of ever attacking America "except in his dreams" is free to believe that but they are fooling themselves.
With the 10 plus years of sanctions we put on his country he's been to busy just trying to stay in power and praying that we didn't attack him.
He was surely in no postition to be attacking us.

Now you're mocking a Nobel Peace Prize Winner Jimmy Carter?
Well how many Nuclear weapons does N. Korea have?
Between 3 and 6 if you believe the CIA's own reports.
Number of Chemical Weapons well over 5,000 TONS imagine how many weapons that would constitute.
North Korea's Government teaches their children to HATE all Americans and that WE are the Evil ones who want to destroy them and their families.
What other Government currently does this? None that I can think of.

Well as for the number of times North Korea has threatened
to use Nuclear weapons or brag that they have them.  Almost
weekly.
Here is the latest just today.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98875,00.html

I know the Liberal Media is biased and Kim Jung-Il probably never said any of this. The media is just making
stories again. LOL

So Dave, what country DO you think is the greatest threat
to the US? How about Saudi Arabia? I don't think so.
Read this:

http://www.freep.com/voices/columnists/ericht13_20030813.htm

Cheers Dingo

... in response to Re: Peanut Man, posted by Dingo on Oct 2, 2003

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Hi Dingo,

...China. More important is how you deal with these countries. Not unlike dealing with a school bully. Liberals seem to want to bury their heads in the sand and hope the problem goes away. Always nice to read your point of view...even if I don't agree.

By the way, that article was written for the Detroit Free Press. Detroit has the largest Saudi and Arab population of any other US city. Coincidence??? LOL

"Now you're mocking a Nobel Peace Prize Winner Jimmy Carter?" I guess I am. LOL But, I think Carter has done a much better job of making himself look like a gentle idiot. Nobel Prize winners are decided by pressure from various groups. Check out some of the past winners and I think you will be surprised. Since the peace didn't last, does Jimmy have to give back his Nobel Prize?

Dave H.

... in response to The Answer..., posted by Dave H on Oct 2, 2003

Not China!

I think the greatest immediate threat to the US is the ACLU :-)

... in response to I disagree Dave, posted by Ray on Oct 3, 2003

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Hi Ray,

You're right!!! I should have written "country."

Dave H.

... in response to The Answer..., posted by Dave H on Oct 2, 2003

Dave, I think China is the country we need to work with
the most to help defuse the North Korea situation.

I haven't heard anything from China to think that they
are threatening the USA, the same can not be said for
North Korea as it is a weekly occurence for them.

I am originally from the Detroit area so I am aware of the large Muslem Population there. You didn't really say if you
agreed with the article or not.
Do you think the Saudi Gov't played a hand in 9/11 ?
Should we trust Saudi Arabia as whole?

More inportantly (LOL), why aren't we reading on this asian board about American/Korean relationships, penpal/wife etc. with  South Korean Women?

Anybody out there going to visit their Korean Penpals/E-pals?

http://vestnik.tripod.com/imagesn/women-north-korean-2.jpg

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1030/csmimg/p6a.jpg

Marching in reverence of Dave's Purple G-string. LOL

Cheers
Dingo

Thanks for your views Dave.
Even though they are completely and totally incorrect.
(Just kidding)

Keep up the good work. I bet you are
still active in the Firefighing/Paramedic community even after retirement.

... in response to Re: The Answer..., posted by Dingo on Oct 2, 2003

Hi Dingo,

You're from Detroit!!! We'll that explains our disagreement...I'm from the Jackson area...birthplace of the Republican party. LOL

I agree that "China is the country we need to work with
the most to help defuse the North Korea situation." I am not concerned with China threatening the US directly in the near future. But rather, small countries in Southeast Asia (perhaps eventually the Philippines) that draws us into a conflict. They are a sleeping giant. Good people, but a bad government.

"Do you think the Saudi Gov't played a hand in 9/11?"

No, but I think they paid bin Laden to "play" elsewhere. Eventually, I think bin Laden has/had his eyes set on Saudi Arabia.

"More importantly (LOL), why aren't we reading on this Asian board about American/Korean relationships, penpal/wife etc. with South Korean Women?"

I don't know? I have heard Koreans are very racist. But I have been friends with several Korean-American families over the years. Both families had high goals set for their children, but didn't object if their daughters marrying non-Koreans of similar educational background. I have a Korean friend who is married to a American (Jewish) man. She met him when she acted as his translator (barely spoke any English at the time). They are a very happy couple with two young sons. I think the fact that English is commonly spoken in the Philippines, along with cultural similarities, makes it more convenient for the average Westerner. Plus, there are coconut trees, beautiful beaches, great diving and it is nice and warm this time of year. LOL

Thanks for enjoying my totally warped views! :o))) I always enjoy yours as well. It's nice to disgree and not have it turn into a brawl.

Cheers to you,

Dave H.

... in response to Re: Re: The Answer..., posted by Dave H on Oct 2, 2003

I have experienced the Korean rasism as well. Very nationalistic. Too bad, some of them are so good looking.

http://www.sjkumc.org/images/korean.gif

Beers ?
Dingo

... in response to Re: The Answer..., posted by Dingo on Oct 2, 2003

You don't have to worry about China ever attacking us when we buy everything they make. In fact China will probably buy America in a couple of decades with our trade defecits. The Japanese and Chinese are the biggest buyers of US debt.

This is one of the advantages of a foreign bride you have another country you can move to.

... in response to Re: Re: The Answer..., posted by stefang on Oct 2, 2003

Hi Stefang,

I think you are on to something! Now you have my head spinning. %o) There is certainly a lot of open space available for immigration in the US and Canada.

Dave H.

... in response to Peanut Man, posted by Dave H on Oct 2, 2003

Isn't that the same Mr. Carter who didn't have the balls to take on Iran? I think HE was "the world's greatest threat" when he was pres. A real "expert" on world affairs... ROFLMAOTNTPIMP!

Ray

... in response to Re: Peanut Brain, posted by Ray on Oct 2, 2003

n/t

... in response to LOL-Ray and Dave-y'all crack me up n/t, posted by Matt on Oct 2, 2003

Hi Matt,

Different points of view can make this place pretty entertaining and interesting. I have a friend who spends a large chunk of his income buying various books and videos (and dropping them of at my doorstep) on all of the latest conspiracies...New World Order, Iluminati, H.A.R.P System, alien agenda, crop circles, railroad prison cars, American prison camps, Catholic agenda, Princess Diana's death, tainted vaccines, you name it... Some of it makes you wonder, while some is simply hilarious. It's hard to discuss much with him since he is a paranoid schizophrenic.

Dave H.

... in response to Whites Only Biological Bomb by N. Korea?, posted by Matt on Sep 29, 2003

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Hi Matt,

ROFLMAOCUMLPIMP!!! Now that is funny!

“A whites-only ethnic bomb in the hands of bin-Laden or a rogue state like North Korea or Iran could have a dramatic effect on the current balance of power,”

If possible, Iran or bin-Laden would end up killing themselves in the process since they're Caucasian. Race was originally based mainly on skull size and shape. Now it has come to reflect ones skin color and outward appearance...beneath the skin's surface, people are essentially the same. With continued advances in transportation, the world gene pool is becoming more blended and it is becoming impossible to tell who is "what." Today, many cultural anthropologists consider race to be more a social or mental construct than an objective biological fact. In other words, what we perceive as racial differences, are actually cultural differences.

Dave H.

... in response to Suicide?, posted by Dave H on Sep 30, 2003

Does that mean my nose will grow flat in a few years? LOL

... in response to Re: Suicide?, posted by Peter Lee on Sep 30, 2003

Hi Peter,

Just be careful with your students. My nose got smashed flat. :o)

Dave H.

... in response to Suicide?, posted by Dave H on Sep 30, 2003

I laughed, too. Bin Laden is as caucasian as a Swede. As I understand it, there are only three "races," Negroid, Caucasoid and Mongoloid. It has nothing to do with skin color. Australian aboriginies are Caucasian and Native Americans, Mongoloid. Most of us, though, are mutts - mixtures of the three. The concept that a biological weapon would be useful for only one race is ludicrous. If one could be developed that only affected one of the three races, that's walking a mighty thin line, who says it wouldn't mutate into something lethal for all. Bacteria and viruses do this all the time. How many different kinds of flu are there? Dozens, and dozens more appear every year, each slightly different.

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Suicide?, posted by Jeff S on Sep 30, 2003

So you agree then that AIDS is the perfect cultural bomb.

Like a bomb a few innocent victims are collateral damage.   The vast majority for the reason it has developed are dying.

Anyone for conspiracy theories LOL

... in response to Re: Suicide?, posted by Jeff S on Sep 30, 2003

Hi Jeff,

The "three race" theory was based largely on skull shape and cranial capacity. Anthropologists in the 19th century argued that skull capacity equated directly with intelligence. Caucasians had a larger cranium (braincase) and thus were considered smarter. Very convenient in white dominated society. Some people still cling to the theory despite being disproven over one hundred years ago.

Dave H.

... in response to Skull..., posted by Dave H on Sep 30, 2003

So that means women must feel that black men are the most intelligent since women always feel men think with the midbrain and we know by genetics who is gifted there.

... in response to Skull..., posted by Dave H on Sep 30, 2003

Well Dave H
Look what you started,
Warm climate humans may have developed differently than cold climate ones.  If your ancestors came from a cold climate and they planed ahead for bad times coming they survived.  Speed and the ability to out breed had little part in it.  On the other hand in warm climates, speed and the ability to out breed the competition may have had an advantage?  With  modern transportation these cultures met and now have very little in common with each other.   It may explain why one developed the big bomb and the other has a record of dominating the Olympics that pertain to speed.  
To bad that it is not politically correct to do any research on this taboo subject.  
The native tribes in Palawan average 6 children per family, only two are expected to live.  They run through the woods with speed, including the older men.  They didn't seem to have what was taught by their elders and improve on them.  They seemed happy with just staying the way they are.  In contrast check what the cold climate people are doing!   Is one smarter than the other?  Probably not much just the priority of the offspring to adapt to its environment.  If the theory is true than warm climate humans who had an advantage in out breeding the other would be affected more with AIDS than a cold climate humans who did not evolve mass breeding to compete and adapt..   So is there a race bomb?  Is it already in place?  If so wouldn’t it be an advantage to keep it quiet?  

... in response to Re: Skull..., posted by Peter Lee on Sep 30, 2003

Hi Peter,

I think AIDS is more of a Gay or Bugaron Bomb. It really hasn't rapidly spread into the heterosexual community as was predicted, in spite of efforts of some to make it happen.

Dave H.

... in response to Sorry about that! LOL, posted by Dave H on Oct 1, 2003

I disagree 100% and Africa is a good example.  Women have so many kids their virgina is so big the men go anal.  Thus a big AIDS problem.   The fact that they are very promiscuous don't help either.  Before AIDS it was probably good coz it helped spread the gene pool.  but now

... in response to Re: Sorry about that! LOL, posted by Peter Lee on Oct 1, 2003

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Hi Peter,

LOL The rectum was certainly designed as an exit, not an entrance. But, I don't think the cause of AIDS is monogamous butt sex. Although it may be spread that way by disease infected partners, it can also be transmitted orally, vaginally, and through blood.

"Women have so many kids their virgina is so big the men go anal." ROFLMAOCUMLSIMMFP!!! If your wife has an episiotomy or tears during birth, make sure to tell the doctor to put in an extra stitch. ;o))) After several kids, it may be a good idea to throw in a stitch or two anyway. LOL

Dave H.

... in response to Hmmm..., posted by Dave H on Oct 1, 2003

Are you hinting that the reason Africa has more AIDS than any place in the world that they are all queer?  LOL
The study done showed the anal thing with hetro's their reason for so much spreading of the disease along with promiscuity.

... in response to Re: Hmmm..., posted by Peter Lee on Oct 1, 2003

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Hey Peter,

I won't touch that one with a 10 foot pole...or any pole for that matter. LOL Promiscuity has certainly played a large part in the rapid spread of AIDS in Africa. Poverty, lack of adequate medical care, and education have no doubt played a large role also. I read that many infected males in Africa believe that sex with a virgin will cure them. Tragically, young virgins are being raped and infected as a result.

Dave H.

... in response to Re: Skull..., posted by Peter Lee on Sep 30, 2003

How about the 'race bomb' that seems so to settle so prevelently in the mindsets of caucasion males?

Arrogance and supremacy has cost the lives of tens of millions of caucasions (read WWI, WWII...)

Adolf Hitler, for all of his white supremecy rhetoric, was perhaps the biggest facilitator of white on white violence, and he darned near led to the total destruction of the white race (20 million killed in Russia alone).

... in response to Re: Re: Skull..., posted by senge on Oct 1, 2003

Hey, hey, how many did Stalin kill?  Hitler didn't come close.  Lets give the credit were credit is due.

... in response to Re: Re: Skull..., posted by senge on Oct 1, 2003

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Hi Senge,

"How about the 'race bomb' that seems so to settle so prevelently in the mindsets of caucasion males?"

I'd have to disagree with you on that. There's a few real azzholes in every "race" and I don't think one particular group has the monopoly on it!

Dave H.

... in response to Well..., posted by Dave H on Oct 1, 2003

I think the Christinans may have the monopoly in the past.  Galalao wasn't to happy with them either LOL

... in response to Re: Well..., posted by Peter Lee on Oct 1, 2003

I think us Christians should try to get the monopoly back then. :o))) I'm up for another Crusade. There have been several interesting Christian vigilante groups in the Philippines. The Ilaga Group being one of the most famous.

Dave H

... in response to :oD, posted by Dave H on Oct 1, 2003

Hey Dave,
I am just sitting here doing some surfin' about the Ilaga Group.  Do you know much about this group?  Are they actual "crusaders" (ie. talk the talk and walk the walk) or just thugs lookin' for a fight?  Very interesting topic.

Rick

... in response to Re: :oD, posted by Rick C on Oct 1, 2003

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Hi Rick,

Probably a little of both. I don't know a lot about the Ilaga Group. I do know that they are one of the most feared of the Christian vigilante groups (paramiltary) and were supported by the Marcos government in the`1970s. They were led by the Manero brothers. Norberto Manero Jr, reportably ate the brains of a priest and several others that they had killed. They were/are anti-Muslim, as`well as anti-communist. Some other Christian vigilante groups include Tadtad, Pulahan, and Sagrado Corazon de Jesus.

Dave H.

http://www.codewan.com.ph/CyberDyaryo/commentary/c2000_0529_01.htm

http://www.cyberdyaryo.com/features/f2001_0328_01.htm

http://www.philsol.nl/A00a/Pahra-vigilante-mar00.htm

... in response to Whites Only Biological Bomb by N. Korea?, posted by Matt on Sep 29, 2003

Chile Mat,
People get killed in your home town everyday, go check the emergency room.  I sleep with all the windows open.  Whenever I think it's getting scary out there I think of when I was in Viet man.  Compared to that everything else is like picking roses.  Western intellegence? LOL Race based bomb?  Sometimes it's fun to be paranoid, if others play along.    Sounds interesting, I thought we had one with AIDS.  This planet would do better with less people on it anyway.  I seen a bumper sticker that says "Save the Planet, Kill Yourself".  Any volunteers to save the planet? LOL  
The trick seems to be that when  scientists find new ways of destroying ourselves will we find new ways to control the them?   It looks like we are bright enough to discover new ways to destroy without the ability to control it.  So the question is how long we will last before we self destruct.  As long as it don’t happen in the next 35 years I pass.

... in response to Re: Whites Only Biological Bomb by N. Ko..., posted by Peter Lee on Sep 30, 2003

Hi Peter,

I agree that it's sometimes fun to be paranoid. LOL I just heard of around 60 underground US military bases that are housing aliens from outer space. With my head shape, they just might be my ancestors. He he he...

Dave H.

... in response to Yep!, posted by Dave H on Oct 1, 2003

Warning:  CIA leak White House:
Aliens drop off their worst male criminals on this planet 3rd from the Sun, it is considered the greatest punishment in the universe.  There is no escape and aliens are forced to marry AW as a form of hard labor.  Then they are put to work with jobs that have little meaning to life just to earn enough money to eat and sleep.  If they earn too much, taxes put them to a punishing level again.  If they earn more AW are programmed to divorce them take all of their positions so they have to start all over again about every 5 years.  It is a dangerous planet full of disease war and bad weather.  Aliens are here for hard labor and mental cruelty and are bombarded with news and local events to take away any feeling of security.  Medical problems are handled by competent doctors motivated by money who will inflict more punishment by conducting many unnecessary tests most, very painful.  The idea is to deter future crimes in other planets by making the punishment so harsh that no alien will want to be sent here.  It seems to be working coz less aliens are scheduled to be shipped here in the future.  There are now more punishers for the aliens than aliens.  To deter escape plans aliens will be made busy by being brainwashed in a number of religions to further their hardships on themselves and others.  
Bulletin:  The universal council has since softened the hard line attitude and allowed some better behaved aliens to marry women from an unstable Island on an Ocean on the Planet as a reward for good behavior.  They must show a minimum income of about $20K for the past 3 years show no criminal record on this planet and have one or two previous AW as post punishments to qualify.   They have a better chance if they are over 40 years of age and showing previous marital hardship.  Applications are through organizations that require 6 months to a year waiting period.  It seems that these young women from these Islands feel sorry for the aliens and are willing to make the few years they have left more pleasant.   If you feel you are an alien and are eligible for good behavior contact PL for details.  For more information and donations email Peter Lee.  

... in response to Re: Yep!, posted by Peter Lee on Oct 1, 2003

Hey Peter, what the heck have you been smoking? ROTFLMAOCUML!