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Hi  everyone

Here is  a  link  that  I  stole  from  the  AOL  message  boards.  I  thought  it  was  kind  of  interesting.  I'd  love  to hear  Tim's  take  on  this.

http://www.asiazine.com/eat/eat03022.htm

Windmill boy

... in response to Heres another  one -- not  a  test  thou..., posted by Windmill Boy on May 1, 2002

Me...brown rice with a fork,,,JB white rice with fingers..    Me... clean off all the plate,,JB....leave me the leftovers to eat.....Me,,, throw all plastic forks away...JB...wash and use again,,,, Me,,,,,,wash clothes using wash machine and dryer,,,JB,,,still washing delicates by hand,,,,Me,,,,lead the family prayer,,,,JB,,,insist that I do so,,,,Me,,,,,so happy,,,JB,,,,,same.  Thought I would add to windmills post

Steveb and JB

... in response to Heres another  one -- not  a  test  thou..., posted by Windmill Boy on May 1, 2002

I did not know that Asain people were not considered white people. OK, call me dumb.  I know they are called Asain, But never anything other than that.  The reason I bring this up is  After reading the site on this post and after going to Asain Avenue, I am finding there is a little race problem with some Asian's to the white people.  This seems to be mostly from Asain's living in America.

 I have decided to look for an Asain wife and have been reading alot on this for the last week.  After reading the forums on Asain Avenue, I see that  A lot of Asain"s have a problem with Americans, or it seem's that way.  I do understand that A lot of the post on AA are students here. This has me thinking that an Asain women living in America would not be a wise way to go. Also these ladies are much to young for me anyway, just trying to learn a little about them.

would love to hear comments on this.

... in response to Re: Heres another  one -- not  a  test  ..., posted by terry on May 1, 2002

Yes, Asians are a different race than Caucasians. Anyway, I know very few asians who are dead set against interracial dating and marriage - however many don't consider many of the white people they know as particularly compatable. It has to do with personalities and culturally based expected behaviors. Let me give you an example. I consider myself all American - I'm pretty tall, blue eyed, lifetime NRA member, conservative Republican, from Texas, and fiercely patriotic, yet most Japanese (and many other Asians I've met and dealt with) both overseas and here don't consider me very "American." To them I'm "European," to which I took offense at first. To me, saying I'm European is akin to saying I'm a socialist whimp, with a snobbish streak, but to them, the implication was that I was respectful and polite, unlike many of the Americans they'd been exposed to. Before I ever visited with any Asian countries, or met any Asian people, I spent some time learning a bit about the language, culture, and social graces to make sure I wasn't offensive (Much of my experience has been in a business context.) I guess the moral of this story is to not be concerned about what a few Asians vocally complain, but rather to make yourself more compatable with the Asian women you come across. Air drumming with chopsticks or doing the in-zone dance in a public place when you see your favorite team score on the bar TV, will definately not get you an invitation to come home to meer her parents, but knowing what to order and how to say "thank you" in her language will win you lots of points. Just my experience - your mileage may vary.

-- Jeff S.

... in response to Asians and Americans, posted by Jeff S on May 1, 2002


I dont mind at all if different ethnic or racial groups bash American culture. Americans do it all the time. I think it's prettty normal throughout the world which is why I hate all the political correctness. That restaurant post was a great example of how  differences can be quite funny. I love the Air drumming example. I found out very quickly through my exwife(chinese) that that particlular culture has a very low opinion of white people. But so what, I challenged all their stereotypes and changed some perceptions. Some liked me some didn't, the way of the world.

                        JOE

... in response to Re: Asians and Americans, posted by JEM on May 2, 2002

... real BS, but manners are an entirely different thing. Using them shows respect, and lack of them shows contempt. A lack of manners restricts your choices to the rude few, while expertise with them opens doors. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

-- Jeff S.

... in response to Asians and Americans, posted by Jeff S on May 1, 2002

:-)

... in response to Re: Heres another  one -- not  a  test  ..., posted by terry on May 1, 2002

Terry

Welcome to P.L.  I  have  never  been  to  Asian  Avenue  or  even  heard  about  it  before.  I  will  check it out  though.  

I  occasianally  check  in  on some  of  the  AOL Asian  message  boards such  as  THINGS ASIANS  DON"T  TALK  ABOUT    and  ASIAN DATING.  There  appears to  be  a  high  level  of  Asian bonding  and  yes  problems  from them  against  other races there too.  Though it  has  finally  mellowed  out  there  was  a  lot  of  friction  between the  Asian  community  and  African American  posters for  a  long time. Is  it the  strength  in  numbers idea  I am not  sure.  

Now  some  of  the  posters  are  harping about  being  an  under  represented  minority in  a  white  controled  society.  Some (mostly  women  posters) are  also advocating  that  Asian  women  have  more  pride  in  their  race and  stick  with  dating  asian  men  and  stop  jumping  ship and  "selling  out"  to  marry  white  men  as  a  status  symbol.  I  say  you like  who  you  like and  if  you  can  find  a  match where  you  both are  happy  to  heck with  everybody  else.

These posters  feel  that  they  need a  forum  to talk  about what  irks  them and  to  vent about  what  bothers  them,  just  like  we   are  fortunate  to  have  our  forum here (thanks again  patrick).  I  can  take  some  white  bashing  if  that  is  what  makes  them  happy.  It  is  their  problem, if  they  are  trying  to unify to find  some  asian pride  by  venting out  against  others  not  mine.  It  is  just  like  Greek people  should  have  their own  forums  to talk  about  life  as  they  see  it  from  a  Greek  perspective  if  this  is  what  they  want.

Look  at  it  this way. there  are plenty  of fish  in the  American  sea  and  even  many  more  in the  Asian  seas.   Don't  let  these  posters  scare  you  off  from  the  American  market.  Realize   that  they  are  only  the  small  minority  who  really  feel  strong  enough about  their  causes  to  bother  to  post   about  them.  You have just  as  good  a  chance  to find a  nice woan here too.  I  myself  am  still  open  to finding  a nice  American Asian girl  but  I  am  having  less  than  good luck in  finding  one  who  even wants to communicate in  general.  I  have  tried  a  few  dating  services  here  and  my  results  have  been  less  than  stellar.  

I  find myself  leaning towards  trying  overseas.  Yes  you  might not  be  able  to have an  off  the  cuff  conversation  with them  about watching  SIX FEET  UNDER  on  HBO  last  night  or about  Brittany  Spearchuckers  latest video.  but  you  will  have  fun  explaining  what  a  SWEET TOOTH means   and  you  will  get  the  chance  to  experiece  a whole new fresh perspective  on life.  I  really  find  that  to  be  interesting  and  stimulating  myself.

I  have  had the  best  luck  myself with forming  friendships on  the  Asian  penpal  boards  on AOL  however  90%  of  the  posters  are  Japanese.

Windmill  Boy

... in response to Re: Heres another  one -- not  a  test  ..., posted by terry on May 1, 2002

Stick around this board for a bit,,you will see things a little different,,,take your time, learn all you can, and enjoy the culture of the asian women.  BTW,,,we are prejudiced here,,,we think the filipina's and asian women are FAN- tastic!!!!!

Steveb