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Same thing happens in rural America, particularly in midwestern farming towns.  I have seen some ads for some pretty hot East German women looking for partners.  

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20031226/lf_nm/germany_east_men_dc

... in response to Dearth of available women in East German..., posted by BubbaGump on Dec 26, 2003

Just like in America in the small towns that dot across this land.  It is very common for people in declining areas to relocated to prospering and populated areas.

This is no different as to where I live at.  Jobs are drying up and companies are moving overseas for cheaper labor.   You either sink or swim (find something that consumers will buy thus sustain your life).

Clearly, these women who are leaving are looking out for themselves.   Just as these guys should be doing so.

I personally believe here in America one day we will be faced with a real problem as women are getting more and more power, who do you think they're going to employ more of - women.   It's like a reverse pecking order.

Which is why I think mankind is doomed, and we thought robots were going to over take us.

... in response to Re: This is nothing new, posted by wsbill on Dec 26, 2003

It doesn't sound as bad there as it already is in Silicon Valley, California.  :)

... in response to Dearth of available women in East German..., posted by BubbaGump on Dec 26, 2003

East Germany will eventually catch up with the West economically more or less and those men will head East for wives. Much like us ( smile).

... in response to No problem......, posted by Cold Warrior on Dec 26, 2003

Their is a huge disparity between the rich and the poor, we all know the middle class will one day be a part of the poor class.  Wait for the next round of layoffs and go ask these people what their going to do, besides get in the unemployment line.  It's bleek out here in mid-america.

I equate this to like the days of old when people expanded westward, they typically lived close to the railroad tracks and great waterways.  When factories open up shop they employied the masses.  But now we are seeing just the opposite happening.  This is just one huge cycle of economicial evolution happening.

Companies of course are relocating overseas for the cheaper labor, but only because in North America, the population is actually declining.  Why because of cost and we are such a lititious socieity, who can run a business and have to worry about being sued, or have to pay for the workers health care expense.  Skilled workers jobs are being replaced by automation and cheaper imported in products.

Only select professions will be able to command a kings ransom in pay.

... in response to Re: East Germany is equal to E. Kiev, posted by wsbill on Dec 27, 2003

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=581&e=4&u=/nm/20031223/tc_nm/tech_techjobs_dc

... in response to Re: There goes somebodies job...poof gon..., posted by wsbill on Dec 27, 2003

Job exportation seems irreversible phenomenon, especially in this global age.

Whenever you dial an 800 number, chances are your call is routed to India and back to the U.S. Only three years ago new graduates from CS or EE with computer engineering option were getting sign-up bonus in addition to six figure salary. I saw it with my own eyes because I was an engineering professor then. Now, things are totally different. The son of a friend of mine graduated from a major midwest university with double-major of EE and CS in August. Guess what he is doing today? He is a waiter at a restaurant! His wife, working at a telephone company, makes more money than he does. Major U.S. companies have been importing many code monkies. But recently they started shifting jobs off shore because the product, software, can be instantly transmitted through the Internet. There is no need to move around code monkies over the Pacific Ocean. There are abundance of highly educated, smart youngsters from IIT, generally regarded as the most difficult college to be admitted in the world. I have had some of them as my students here in the U.S. They are all straight A students, truly smart. Smart kids in India go to engineering school while smart kids in the U.S. go to business school because it is quicker and easier that way to make big bucks. It is a long and hard way to become a good engineer or a medical doctor.

Job exportation and illegal immigrants are not for the U.S. alone. Germany and Japan have their shares. The problem is very acute for Japan as it is so close to China. Just about everything is imported from China, even fresh vegitables. Illegals are contributing to the sudden rise of crime there. Scandinavia and Japan used to be the safest places in the world. That title is owned by only Scandinavia now. Germany has an enormous unemployment rate, compared to which ours is Mickey Mouse. There are more skin heads now than a few years ago.

What should we do? We, all advanced nations, have to readjust ourselves. As India and China getting an ever increasing share of jobs, their middle class is rapidly growing. This year the number of cell phones exceeded whopping 250 million in China. I was quite surprised to see more BMW and Lexus in Beijing and Sian than I expected when I toured in China. We have to look at them as the market, too. Yes, trade imbalance will keep growing and more jobs go off shore until the standard of living is equalized in the west and the east , which is not going to happen in any forseeable future. However, we are benefitting from the imports. Without those inexpensive imported merchandice, the inflation would have been out of control in the west.

After all, we are still the wealthiest nation and it's not going to change in spite of trade imbalance. All bucks which go offshore will come back here in some form. We worried about it in '80s almost the same way as now. Some economists predicted then that USA would be owned by the Japan, Inc. That didn't happen. Unemployment? Yes, but go to Walmart. People are spending and spending and spending. Where are those green bucks coming from?