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Title: Russian/Ukranian GDP statistics
Post by: TwoBitBandit on November 25, 2003, 05:00:00 AM
Every year, The Economist publishes economic statistics on all major countries.  Among the statistics is per-capita GDP.

Below I've copied the per-capita GDP figures for Russia and Ukraine... and also included a bunch of other countries for comparison.

I think these are interesting statistics...especially if you're fascinated by economics like I am.  If you're not fascinated by economics... at least these numbers give you some idea about the wealth of these countries relative to Russia/Ukraine.

Russia $3,110
Ukraine $1,160

Ireland $43,790
United States $38,620
France $31,640
Italy  $27,640
Austrailia $26,400
Portugal $16,090
Taiwan $13,180
Czech Republic $9,250
Poland $5,870
Mexico $5,870
Romania $2,910
Brazil $2,760
Iran $1,900
China  $1,120
Iraq $836
India $593
Vietnam $476




Title: Re: A Better Measure may be.......
Post by: Del on November 25, 2003, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Russian/Ukranian GDP statistics, posted by TwoBitBandit on Nov 25, 2003

the number of hours one has to work for basics, staples, etc. This would then take into account the various taxes, social benefits and such.
For example, if one were to look at the "typical" (whatever THAT is) lifestyle of a teacher, nurse, electrician or carpenter in the different countries, one might have a better handle on the 'quality of life' that may be "enjoyed" in that country.
One must also take into account the 'social benefits' provided by the state/employer.
Then, one should consider the 'cultural' aspects (hell bent consumerism, amount of vacation days, costs of entertainment, and such).
Most often we try to measure with our own 'yardsticks' and other's 'yardsticks' may differ from ours.
And then, when we try to "label" something as either 'good/better or bad/worse' rather than simply accepting it as 'different' we tend to box ourselves in.


Title: Re: Russian/Ukranian GDP statistics
Post by: 104gummiand on November 25, 2003, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Russian/Ukranian GDP statistics, posted by TwoBitBandit on Nov 25, 2003

Hi. But you need to look at the PPP* indtead, and from World factbook from CIA. (data from 2002) state following:

Russia $3,110    PPP:9300 USD
Ukraine $1,160   PPP:4500

Ireland $43,790  PPP:30500 USD
DENMARK :-) 32,970** PPP:29000***
United States $38,620**  PPP:37600  (USA GDP and GDP/ppp is the same since USA is benchmark country)
France $31,640   PPP:25700
Italy $27,640    PPP:25000 USD
Austrailia $26,400 PPP:27000
Portugal $16,090   PPP:18000
Taiwan $13,180     No data (due to politics)
Czech Rep. $9,250  PPP:15300
Poland $5,870      PPP:9500 USD
Mexico $5,870      PPP:9000
Romania $2,910     PPP:7400
Brazil $2,760      PPP:7600
Iran $1,900       PPP:7000 USD
China $1,120      PPP:4400
Iraq $836         PPP:2400
India $593        PPP:2540
Vietnam $476      PPP:2250 USD

* PPP= purchase power parity. Perhaps USA income is 12 time bigger than Russia, but however a lot of goods are cheaper, such as food. So you can but more, for the same money.
** I assume you have data from 2003: From worldinformation I get 36300 USD in 2002.
*** PPP, has however one error. Like my country, the PPP is lower than the GNP pr capita, because we have a high tax level. BUT in USA many people must have private insurance and savings, with we don't need. So who has most money to spend at consumption?



Title: Re: Re: Russian/Ukranian GDP statistics
Post by: AllenB on November 25, 2003, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Russian/Ukranian GDP statistics, posted by 104gummiand on Nov 25, 2003

You can always trust a Dane to know how to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

My family comes from Denmark and all of my relatives are still there in Copenhagen, Odense and Esbjerg.

It's a great country with some of the warmest and most gracious people in the world.  This summer after Anna has our first son together we plan to visit Denmark and my family as well as her family in Ukraine.

Great post and keep up the good work Great Dane!!!



Title: Re: Re: Re: Russian/Ukranian GDP statistics
Post by: 104gummiand on November 26, 2003, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Russian/Ukranian GDP statistics, posted by AllenB on Nov 25, 2003

Thanks.

I live 35 miles ssw of Copenhagen :-)

U might consider, visiting the relatives in Esbjerg last. Then have them drive you to Hamburg, and then off to Hamburg, then to Ukraine.
There is some discount companies in Germany. I know to Moscow, it costs only 230 USD.

At least it is just as short to go to Hamburg, than back to Copenhagen.

Take care. Have you forgot the Danish language or want to rehurse bfore visit, try this link: http://travlang.com/languages with soundfiles.



Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Russian/Ukranian GDP statistics
Post by: AllenB on November 26, 2003, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Russian/Ukranian GDP statist..., posted by 104gummiand on Nov 26, 2003

It has been so long since I have spoken Danish but I was planning on buying a CD course this winter to practice.  Thanks for the info.  As always, the Danes are the best, therefore the name Great Dane!

Best Wishes,
Allen