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Title: Free advice and experience on a CD (FREE) Post by: that guy on November 18, 2003, 05:00:00 AM If anyone is interested I will do all the work free and with no charge to produce a CD with experiences relating to the search for an FSU bride. RobertJohnz9@hotmail.com Title: Re: Remember when I posted a few of you married Post by: wsbill on November 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Free advice and experience on a CD (FREE..., posted by that guy on Nov 18, 2003
Guys photos up on my website. I know one thing it wasn't pretty and of course, they were quick removed. Personally, I wouldn't subject you or your wife to public display. After all, you may never know who is lurking out there in cyberland looking to exploit someone. Protect your your privacy. Title: Please use caution dealing with this guy Post by: Patrick on November 21, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Free advice and experience on a CD (FREE..., posted by that guy on Nov 18, 2003
I don't know who this guy is, but I counted the word "free" five times between the subject and message body. That alone raises my suspicions. There's been fake web sites put together with forum members photos before. I would be careful of sending your photos to anyone you don't know. Title: I'm with you Patrick! Post by: Rags on November 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Please use caution dealing with this guy, posted by Patrick on Nov 21, 2003
Very suspicious to say the least. He's "halfway done" with this great project and just now mentioning it? Of course, "he" had to gain our confidence first with a few (IMO) suspect posts. Don't bite guys!!! We all saw what can happen when you share personal info and/or pics a few years ago, remember? Title: I agree Post by: that guy on November 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I'm with you Patrick!, posted by Rags on Nov 22, 2003
I agree with you to not contribute to the CD if you feel you might have a privacy problem. I agree that you can check out the CD when it's complete and then see what you think. Don't feel that I've just started posting because I'm desperate for help from Planetlove members. It's not about hinging on this forum to finish my CD it's about letting you know it will soon exist and your welcome to view it on completion. There's nothing here that will hamper it's completion or slow it down. Just letting you know. Title: Re: Why now? Post by: NW Jim on November 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I agree, posted by that guy on Nov 23, 2003
Like others I'm a bit mystified by what you are up to and your motivations. If you've read this board for a long time, then you know that people who show up out of the blue are sometimes viewed suspiciously--especially when they're soliciting stories and or customers for a commercial product. Your idea had merit 10 years ago, when the FSU was just opening to the MOB scene, and the internet was just getting started. This has become old hat by now. There are a fair number of books, articles, and untold web sites devoted to the issue. It's not like newbies don't have access to information. The other problem of course, is how to get a balanced picture about the risks. There have been some pretty negative experiences posted here, guys like Travis who were put through the wringer emotionally and financially. Anyway, feel free to contribute your experiences and expertise to the dialogue. Title: Re: Re: Why now? Post by: that guy on November 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Why now? , posted by NW Jim on Nov 23, 2003
Thanks NW Jim for the greeting. I'm glad you see a bit into and my motivations here. It's true that I'm not interested in making money through this project but that may seem to cause a red flag to many people here who have indeed paid good money for bad services as well as good services. I suppose if we had the real freedom to bring a Russian or Ukrainian woman to America without the K-1 visa then it would ease the process a bit but due to the requirements of our governement and knowledge that must be learned by ourselves it makes a hard task for the average man. Back in 1989 I was married to a wonderful woman from New Nealand and the marriage lasted seven years. She died in an automobile accident and my daughter is all I have to firmly remind me of her on a daily basis. Back then we met here in the United States and she was on her third tourist visit. She never returned home from that third trip here and we were allowed to do all visa work here and without here returning home. Today it is true that rules and regulations change regulary in this area and with the 9-11 event happening back in 2001 it seems things will always be open for change. You mentioned my idea had merit 10 years ago and I agree with you completely on that. The difference with my project is that it's not to make money and also not to advise other than someone learning from each mans different and unique story. We all know that each man has a view and a story about this process which cannot be deemed the exact same as any another man. The pain and joy are always different and the total journey is interesting in itself. To me this makes the process of finding,meeting,and possibly marrying a woman from the FSU a journey that cannot have too much information to look at. I agree with you in that trying to sell these experiences would be a business venture that would probably be based on how much money one could make and that's why it's not. Imagine that you looked at the CD and enjoyed the experiences of another mans journey while at the same time found a connection to him in his search. Having cost you little or no money to do this it might serve as a way to think about the process more deeply and at the same time possibly drop the idea of involving yourself in the process completely. I'm not a bad person and have no wishes to put people in a situation that they feel is not for them. I am a person who passes you a CD in hopes that you enjoy it and maybe learn a tad bit more than you already know. Title: Misplaced energies Post by: Bobby Orr on November 25, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Why now? , posted by that guy on Nov 23, 2003
Why don't you place your energies where guys really need help ie. decreasing K1 visa processing times for US citizens wanting to bring FSU women into the US or for rolling back the 60's immigration policies. Title: Re: Misplaced energies Post by: that guy on November 25, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Misplaced energies, posted by Bobby Orr on Nov 25, 2003
Good idea but I would have thought this site works in that area? I know another site that does more work through legislational methods than this one. Not too much headway happening afyter 9-11. It seems logical you can go ahead and get the woman over here without too much trouble but the task is not for the dreamers still. Title: Re: Please use caution dealing with this guy Post by: that guy on November 21, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Please use caution dealing with this guy, posted by Patrick on Nov 21, 2003
You advise to the concerned is well taken but don't confuse my FREE statement with anything other than FREE. Skeptics are everywhere and this place has many of them. I assure you this CD will be produced but not because of PlanetLove and not for PlanetLove. This CD is and will be produced for regular guys with regular dreams...... No catch Patrick and that's a fact. Title: Don't Anyone Bend Over With That Guy Behind You Post by: tim360z on November 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Please use caution dealing with this..., posted by that guy on Nov 21, 2003
'cus somethings coming. Title: Uh huh...... Post by: LP on November 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Please use caution dealing with this..., posted by that guy on Nov 21, 2003
[This message has been edited by LP] ...Claims to have read the board for years but never posted. Now shows up and wants to do all kinds of "nice" things while kissing some azz at the same time. Funny how a guy who's been around so long but silent is now so eager to gain acceptance and say his peace. Which is what exactly? All smoke and mirrors, so far I've seen nothing. Has lots of claimed exerience yet offers none. On the contrary, seeks to amass it from others. And for what reason? Altruism? lol...yeah right. Shows up right in the middle of a scrap too, look at when he first posted.
Offer us something of substance...or do us all a favor and take a hike. Title: LB sounds like Jack now..lol Post by: that guy on November 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Uh huh......, posted by LP on Nov 22, 2003
Poor old LP your starting to sound like Jack a bit too much now. Not that Jack was not an expert or anything but your buttons have been pushed and you don't like it..lol You need to lighten up mate and not take yourself so seriously in this little sandbox. I'm not your enemy here but I can return your insults with more savy than you wanna give me credit for. I enjoy reading what you have to say most of the time but when you get your ego mixed up with your detective work it seems to cause yourself more mysery than it's worth. I'm not asking for your approval here mate and your surely welcome to demonstrate your intelligence. Seems to can't get it through your head I'm not opting to answer any questions you have because the last time I checked my membership did not involve going through you to post..lol Title: But 7 years? Post by: tfcrew on November 19, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Free advice and experience on a CD (FREE..., posted by that guy on Nov 18, 2003
You've been searching for a Roosky bride for 7 years? What kind of standards do you demand? Just curious......... Karl Title: Re: But 7 years? Post by: that guy on November 19, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to But 7 years?, posted by tfcrew on Nov 19, 2003
I've been searching for about 4 years and have watched this board for that long. At present time I'm engaged and will probably be married soon. My fiancee works with candidates for local and regional elections and will be a televised host next week for the debates. I've not been seeking a wife for seven years but have been engaged for a year and a half. My way of doing things in this arena may be different but not too different from most men. I would like to burn a cd that would help people like ourselves. The cd would be from our experiences and what we have done in our quest. I will probably go ahead and make the cd myself but if anyone wants to participate that would be great. No advertisements will be included in the cd and no mention of "who" did this for me and why "they" are the best will not be the objective. Guy Title: Then you may want to edit your profile page.. Post by: tfcrew on November 19, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: But 7 years?, posted by that guy on Nov 19, 2003
..and update.. "Searching since '97" sorta threw me. Title: Come on Karl... Post by: LP on November 20, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Then you may want to edit your profile p..., posted by tfcrew on Nov 19, 2003
...I know you aren't that easily fooled. No one else is... Title: Re: Then you may want to edit your profile page.. Post by: that guy on November 19, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Then you may want to edit your profile p..., posted by tfcrew on Nov 19, 2003
I will do that indeed. I have been interested since 1997 but have not searched until 2000. Sorry about the informational error. I went through an Ameican divorce during that time and divorce was not finished until 1999. Would it not be very interesting to share experiences and trip information with other members on a CD? Our names will not be listed unless you wish them to and the pictures you submit may be edited in any way you wish. Since we are not in business to make money with this project it would be a way to do anything we wished to do in presentation. Title: Re: Re: Then you may want to edit your profile page.. Post by: that guy on November 21, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Then you may want to edit your profi..., posted by that guy on Nov 19, 2003
I'm halfway complete with the free cd to men like ourselves. When complete I will post it here if anyone would like to take a look. So far I have included 200 pictures as well as 20 stories by men like ourselves. I look forward to adding anyone's story or pictures if you are interested. Title: Hey Mate .......... Post by: JohnL on November 22, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Then you may want to edit your p..., posted by that guy on Nov 21, 2003
....... it was only an idea a few days ago! What have Ya got in Ya Hand? A *Wand*?? Me thinks .... well ?? Someone else will answer that for me ! I think I know who as well!!!!! And Your *Gonna* post it all here? Come on Mate, get real, there are more *Expeditioners* here than You can poke a stick at, and YOUR *gonna* Teach E'm with a CD? Have another go, try something different ..... and keep a close eye on them cookies, cause they sure dont understand plain English, maybe C++ if Ya careful. Hey, watch out, Boomerangs can fall anywhre, contrary to mythology. Good Luck to ALL. Title: Not teaching Mate Post by: that guy on November 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hey Mate .........., posted by JohnL on Nov 22, 2003
Seems there are plenty of teachers here and few students but those students seem to be treated harsh at times and will never get a passing grade..lol I don't want to teach anybody anything. I learned the process on my own and with close friends in the real world and it's not such a hard thing to learn. The problem here seems to be a hunger for information by newbies but at the same time a high and mighty attitude towards them. This makes sense if you stay here long enough and participate too long. Many people here seem to have wonderful friendships and that's a good thing and I like that very much. The newbies on the other hand have a hard go at it and leave the forum after being flamed by those who "know it all". I've personally discussed the negative features of this site with actual members of this site and they really get annoyed at the clickish whinning that goes on. I don't mind because I never posted up until now but I've been watching for what seems like forever and that means PlanetLove may have already run it's course. |